Post AVhOGhGVaW9QwAny9A by nerdeiro@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #AVgOrmXYkCUMr0VJBY by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-15T15:14:23Z
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What is your "too expensive" pricepoint for a PC Gaming Handheld device? (all in USD, please do the conversion in your currency) - in case none of this is too expensive for you, just comment instead of picking a number#pcgaming #handheld #pricing
(DIR) Post #AVgQ4KkTU58CNW5t0i by boo_@im-in.space
2023-05-15T15:27:48Z
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@boilingsteam I bought the $700 Steam Deck, so I would say my "too expensive" price point is just above that, maybe $800.
(DIR) Post #AVgQ7bGiWGwmU0jUJM by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-15T15:28:27Z
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@boo_ thanks for the comment!
(DIR) Post #AVgQD0RGMhQxzjF8l6 by GlowingLantern@mastodon.online
2023-05-15T15:29:22Z
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@boilingsteam It depends if you can still use it as a normal computer. If it’s just a console, everything is too expensive 🙃
(DIR) Post #AVgSGwb6mwMh9Er0LI by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-15T15:52:33Z
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@GlowingLantern if it's a PC, you can always use it as a computer, as long as you are willing to get a dock and other accessories to turn it into a computer 😉
(DIR) Post #AVgTPjrraQdOEBRrIu by dnwlsn@mstdn.io
2023-05-15T16:05:09Z
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@boilingsteam I bought the most expensive Steam Desk, but I'd consider $600 my limit for anyone not Valve. I was ok with the extra $50 since I use Linux on all my systems and Valve have done amazing work / supported the community getting games to work on Linux.
(DIR) Post #AVgfnMP3g5WLqz0NTE by kragil@mastodon.gamedev.place
2023-05-15T18:24:03Z
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@boilingsteam Depends on the specs. Imagine a Steam Deck with a M2 Pro SOC and 24gb RAM. I would pay 1400 for something like that.
(DIR) Post #AVh7oRS3Bvm8W5i00G by PublicLewdness@freespeechextremist.com
2023-05-15T23:38:03.031026Z
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@boilingsteam Anything higher than $400 USD and i'd rather spend the money upgrading my desktop.
(DIR) Post #AVhEwksTY4BClHyoxU by nerdeiro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-16T00:57:57Z
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@boilingsteam I'm dumb, so I paid almost $1,400 for mine.., It's called "Brazil Tax". Thanks to the shitty politics, everything electronic here costs twice as much as in the US... 😡
(DIR) Post #AVhFXhku7SOZnF3cjA by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-16T01:04:37Z
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@nerdeiro wow is that like 100% tax?
(DIR) Post #AVhGMUa8rFrphlEzdw by nerdeiro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-16T01:13:47Z
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@boilingsteam Yup. 60% import tarif 😱 , 20% Manufactured Product Tax (yeah, really!) and about 18% sales tax (equivalent to the European VAT)#braziliantaxes #impostosbrasileiros
(DIR) Post #AVhI96F0FHrUMA5wp6 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-16T01:33:48Z
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@nerdeiro was it always like that?
(DIR) Post #AVhIfu7uJ8kkLAQ09Y by nerdeiro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-16T01:39:42Z
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@boilingsteam There was a brief period between 1991 and IIRC 1996 that the tariff was about less than 30% with an exemption for the first $500 (reset every 6 months). Then a POS of a president called Fernando Henrique Cardoso bumped it to the current levels.
(DIR) Post #AVhO8Qc3cLZYyRwR0q by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-16T02:40:54Z
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@nerdeiro so did that result in a thriving local computer manufacturing business in Brazil ? :awesome:
(DIR) Post #AVhOGhGVaW9QwAny9A by nerdeiro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-16T02:42:22Z
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@boilingsteam Nope. Protectionism like that ALWAYS backfires.
(DIR) Post #AVhOP07nLwBXkHgmZ6 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-16T02:43:54Z
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@nerdeiro so does that mean like quite a few people just cant buy computers in Brazil nowadays? Is there no push back to repel that kind of tariffs?
(DIR) Post #AVhP0MMlceHvROVRRY by nerdeiro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-16T02:50:39Z
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@boilingsteam Computers that are assembled (meaning, putting the motherboard on the chassis) on the duty-free zone in Manaus (capital of the state of Amazonas. Yes, in the MIDDLE OF THE AMAZON FOREST!!!) are exempt. But final assembly != than a thriving technology industry.
(DIR) Post #AVhPcSEGGywYd0h076 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-16T02:57:32Z
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@nerdeiro so would it not be cheaper to buy a quick flight to the US and get a Steam Deck there and bring it back?
(DIR) Post #AVhQRoVND8VaU7Bcps by nerdeiro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-16T03:06:48Z
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@boilingsteam It would save me about $200, but the visa costs about $160, that is assuming I don't get stopped by the customs when coming back and forced to pay the tariffs. It would only be worth the risk for more expensive stuff, like a fully decked MacBook.
(DIR) Post #AViBpojSiHgZz8ixO4 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-05-16T11:57:48Z
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@nerdeiro wow you have to pay for a visa too??