Post AVesWwLvfvyRVw7dfk by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
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 (DIR) Post #AVeQnVBf8Fw5T4Qega by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T11:42:39Z
       
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       The Neo-KKK wants you to die. #ameriKKKa #KKKanada #racism#bothsides #hate #dignity#humanrights
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWsgLK5vU85dsw4 by PaulNickson@mastodon.social
       2023-05-14T17:08:26Z
       
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       @KashifShah @soc_i_ety And when there’s no one left except them, what then? What skills do they have to carry on burning the planet for their own ends?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWtVOGIl8gPWeVE by soc_i_ety@mstdn.ca
       2023-05-14T17:27:47Z
       
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       @PaulNickson @KashifShah They won't survive.:mastodon:
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWu1ILgHQHMS8ES by soc_i_ety@mstdn.ca
       2023-05-14T17:30:39Z
       
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       @PaulNickson @KashifShah The biggest skill needed is adaptation and that goes against everything they stand for.:mastodon:
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWuXCR3nhsJNbxg by PaulNickson@mastodon.social
       2023-05-14T17:33:22Z
       
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       @soc_i_ety @KashifShah It’s like any dystopian venture - it simply can’t survive, by definition.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWvAu3RYlrRxJqa by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T17:53:52Z
       
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       @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety ?  It can survive, if people don’t stand up for their human rights.It has quite obviously survived for the hundreds of years since it escaped from Britannia.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWvg6BSVtQCYETI by PaulNickson@mastodon.social
       2023-05-14T19:17:36Z
       
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       @KashifShah @soc_i_ety And there is the problem - will people stand up for their rights, or will they kowtow to their ‘superiors’?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWw9WQ436tSJjKi by PaulNickson@mastodon.social
       2023-05-14T17:36:35Z
       
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       @soc_i_ety @KashifShah Which means that sometime in the future either fascists will be back under their stones to regroup once again, or society dies altogether.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWwLvfvyRVw7dfk by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T20:14:27Z
       
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       @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety See the Einstein-Freud Theory of War and the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWwxrOuJbPZrvnM by PaulNickson@mastodon.social
       2023-05-14T20:16:57Z
       
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       @KashifShah @soc_i_ety I shall have a look. Sounds interesting.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWxTlUHpt0WnPWa by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T20:49:31Z
       
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       @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety Einstein-Freud Theory of War  is very interesting, especially if you have the patience to read the two, full letters exchanged between them, as it is very succinct, but thorough.The parallels to UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights are pragmatically undeniable.https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Freud_and_Einstein_Why_War.pdfhttps://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights#humanrights #UDHR75
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWy4zFtbsryD8Xg by msquebanh@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T20:56:53Z
       
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       @KashifShah @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety I believe both writings are important & more ppl should read them. I also believe what's on paper never actually works out the way they do in reality & that's been evident over our past & living histories. I believe fascists & ppl bent on trashing planet prefer folks to depend on paper idealism over reality. The reality is we don't have enough people willing to fight back & risk their own comforts & conveniencs - against ppl hellbent on destroying humanity.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWySNquKE2X9p0i by PaulNickson@mastodon.social
       2023-05-14T20:20:16Z
       
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       @KashifShah @soc_i_ety Had a brief look. This stood out:
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWygD1VNsjPcrYm by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T21:00:49Z
       
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       @msquebanh @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety “But it may not be Utopian to hope that these two factors, the cultural attitude and the justified dread of the consequences of a future war, may result within a measurable time in putting an end to the waging of war. By what paths or by what side-tracks this will come about we cannot guess. But one thing we can say: whatever fosters the growth of civilization works at the same time against war.” - Sigmund Freud
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesWzYRlqllRd0B6G by msquebanh@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T21:06:26Z
       
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       @KashifShah @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety I'd prefer if you used your own words & experiences in response to my own words & experiences. I don't actually foster growing of civilization. I do foster degrowth which goes against it. I foster decolonization which is another reason I don't like having colonizer quotes in response to my personal words. I'm unsure if you're aware that goes against decolonization & it's unsavory for me. There's many POC wisdoms available. I'd prefer hearing more of those.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesX06pi0H7AH5dhI by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T21:14:22Z
       
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       @msquebanh @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety Since when were Einstein and Freud colonizers?  They were literally the victims of German colonizers and got exiled just before WW2 for being pacifists and/or Jewish?And, as a POC, myself, I see no reason not to stand on the shoulders of scientists, if their science is sound and their aims are pure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesX1HVLoPCnf5fyC by msquebanh@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T21:19:40Z
       
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       @KashifShah @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety I'm not going to spend hours on why they're colonizers because that info is readily available, if you want to seek it.I never said I don't respect their work. I'm very familiar with both of their works. I can respect their work & still state that you're using white man quotes when you can use your own words to express your own thoughts & feelings. Being POC doesn't mean we're immune to our own colonized minds.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesX1ptHxuYWJB8ZE by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T21:22:02Z
       
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       @msquebanh @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety Einstein and Freud are both Jewish/Semitic, not white…
       
 (DIR) Post #AVesX2M9M1iQ8MGtqi by soc_i_ety@mstdn.ca
       2023-05-14T21:33:23Z
       
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       @KashifShah @msquebanh @PaulNickson I love Einstein. Freud had his own complex though I think. I am pretty sure they like we would all denounce Drumpft.In solidarity.:mastodon:https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/updates/black-history.cfm
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCqnsgwDLzrwlNI by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T20:51:46Z
       
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       @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety heh, there are all sorts of nuggets in there; read the whole thing, from Einstein asking the question, Why War?, to Freud’s answer, but if you are short on time, the final words are: Whatever grows civilization, works at the same time against war.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCrkNBT0CvHJTXs by Judeet88@home.social
       2023-05-14T21:14:08Z
       
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       @KashifShah @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety The question there though is what is 'growth'? Today it's considered to be accelerating consumption of natural resources to the detriment of the planet and it's habitability longterm. This is in fact what's leading to war...the fight for resources for 'growth'.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCsgrfzn3qggBiS by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T21:50:03Z
       
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       @Judeet88 @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety In the context of Einstein-Freud Theory of War, “growth of culture” means progress towards equal rights for all.Freud preferred the term civilization, to the term culture, however, he was really ultimately speaking about the rights of the ruled being grown to equality, not superiority, with the rights of the rulers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCtOT3sfW1v50gC by Judeet88@home.social
       2023-05-14T22:10:34Z
       
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       @KashifShah @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety Both the term 'culture' and 'civilisation' today though no longer mean what either Einstein nor Freud meant at the time. This is one of the key problems as I see it...those notions have been co-opted and corrupted by capitalism (which has captured all of us) and so are not the powerful ideologies they may once have been when those men were at the top of the 'celebrity' charts of the day.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCu5iT5GOC3JY5g by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T22:33:33Z
       
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       @Judeet88 @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety yes, ultimately what Freud was taking about was “equal rights for all”.after WW2, the UN decided to call that Human Rights.So, in todays terms, “whatever grows Human Rights, at the same time, works against war”
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCupnhk7uUysLvE by Judeet88@home.social
       2023-05-14T22:37:03Z
       
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       @KashifShah @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety Yes, that's better understood these days. However, ensuring those rights don't impinge on the rights of others is one of today's talking points.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCvT9LRbOT1HmFs by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-14T23:00:43Z
       
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       @Judeet88 @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety Yes, Freud’s point in 1932: if the ruled beat down the rulers, then the rulers become the ruled, and the cycle of violence repeats.The UN built upon the Freud-Einstein Theory of War to it’s full and “final” solution: the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.30 articles of rights, universal to all members of the human family, no matter how much you hate them.With clear limitations on rights, for when violence is needed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnGCw8ypv3wYkrBSK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-18T22:39:47Z
       
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       @KashifShah> 30 articles of rights, universal to all members of the human family, no matter how much you hate themThis concept is seriously under threat these days, and from the authoritarian left as much as from the insurrectionist right. The two inadvertently feed each other with their increasingly war-like reactions to each other. This civil cold war districts everyone from what the authoritarian right is up to, putting us all at risk.@Judeet88 @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety
       
 (DIR) Post #AVnRpCxhr1S7Di2FKS by KashifShah@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-19T00:50:26Z
       
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       @strypey I couldn’t agree more!  I’m thoroughly disgusted by both branches of the american duopoly of aristocratic-ochlocracy.You might appreciate some of the posts that I’ve made in #NoHumanRightsNoAmerica - in particular there is a yard-sign design that needs to take off in a grassroots way.If all of us reasonable, non-extremophiles can band together into a new majority third-party, we’ll be able to clamp down on the civil war mongers.@Judeet88 @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety
       
 (DIR) Post #AVoLTQOap3JvwiniIy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-19T11:14:01Z
       
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       @KashifShah > If all of us reasonable, non-extremophiles can band together into a new majority third-party, we’ll be able to clamp down on the civil war mongersGood luck with that. Sincerely. Those of us in client states on the other side of the world can only watch from the sidelines and commentate on social media ; )@Judeet88 @PaulNickson @soc_i_ety