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(DIR) Post #AVZo8DRfcKtngAxlSq by louis@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T10:54:29Z
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Next spam wave from mastodon.social incoming. I'll defederate now.#MastoAdmin @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AVZor2gIU6pfKIBBaK by sirber@fosstodon.org
2023-05-12T11:02:35Z
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@louisGet the money first 😏@Gargron
(DIR) Post #AVZpCT4fYDOzGRnOwi by galdor@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T11:06:28Z
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@louis @Gargron You would think that Mastodon developers would take the time to add basic bayesian filtering. It would work very well since instance administrators already deal with identifying spam and ham. You could just tag and update the model, the same way as email.Obviously priorities lie elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #AVZr37VMZmChfax5OK by oatmeal@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T11:27:12Z
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@louis does it also mean it’ll be impossible to follow someone on mastodon.social and see their updates in the home tab?
(DIR) Post #AVZrMH7L3qsKz6qfse by louis@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T11:30:37Z
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@oatmeal You still can follow, and you still see their updates. Limit will make posts from accounts at this domain invisible to anyone who isn't following them.But no account can send you posts that you do not follow.This is temporary until the spam wave is over.
(DIR) Post #AVZs9EFQWDgmH4yULo by svw@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T11:39:29Z
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@galdor Spot on. My old favourite CRM114 was getting 99.87% accuracy in 2002. This is *not* a hard problem. @louis @Gargron
(DIR) Post #AVZsYtxOa9CisAmZGq by galdor@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T11:44:08Z
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@svw @louis @Gargron Yes I remember getting similar good result with a trivial filter developed as an exercise when I was in college. And that was a long time ago.The well known "A Plan for Spam" by @paulg (http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html) still works.Paul if you are reading this, your paper was a lot of fun the first time I read it and implemented the algorithm, thank you!
(DIR) Post #AVZteVL37rLODB58Uq by trobador@mastodon.social
2023-05-12T11:56:20Z
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@louis @Gargron defederation is such an extreme option, admins should only use it in cases of clearly malicious or negligent instances. Imagine if network operators acted like "hey I am gonna black hole your AS because we have received spam from this IP of yours a couple of hours ago" and then you cut communication for hundreds of thousands of people...
(DIR) Post #AVZtsjUnHpCwAoQN8a by louis@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T11:58:54Z
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@galdor @svw @paulg @Gargron Hard to beat that arrogance... #mastoadmin
(DIR) Post #AVZuDkLHKmoesczfhw by hirad@mastodon.hirad.it
2023-05-12T12:02:41Z
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@louis @galdor @svw @paulg @Gargron He sounds like someone who only used Fediverse for his own gain and wouldn't hesitate to defederate his server after becoming popular enough.
(DIR) Post #AVZv7eW6BEuL1siFm4 by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2023-05-12T12:12:49Z
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@louis @Gargron The gall those scammers have... it says jason, but it is clearly not in a valid json format! cc @freemo
(DIR) Post #AVa5Os2MAG4xQUeMV6 by downey@floss.social
2023-05-12T14:07:56Z
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@louis 🤔 If the waves are happening every week, and nothing is done to prevent then, are they really ever "over"?
(DIR) Post #AVa5lEeYl6AtwLBRTM by louis@emacs.ch
2023-05-12T14:12:01Z
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@downey I had a larger discussion on the topic today on the Mastodon Discord. There is no real insight there and in the end the discussion is stalled with the argument "If you don't like it, just defederate Mastodon.social".Gargron, as usual, stayed out of the discussion. Probably a good decision given that the only person that contributed to spam-fighting tools for Mastodon was kicked and their PRs deleted. That's what someone wrote in the discussion, I did not verify that claim.