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(DIR) Post #AVX2ojBCprXS9GY0e0 by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T02:54:57Z
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If the metric known as “IQ” had real utility, wouldn’t we be able to ask and answer questions like “What minimum IQ is necessary for an individual to do _______?”
(DIR) Post #AVX3QqeJVpsKJpL7a4 by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:01:50Z
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@GMOdysseys IQ is not about how smart you are, but how well you use what ya got.
(DIR) Post #AVX40MUt5uj1EFrgbQ by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:08:15Z
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@KillerMule Yes, my IQ is about 4”
(DIR) Post #AVX42y889AmMWaSnce by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:08:44Z
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@GMOdysseys LOL
(DIR) Post #AVX46IJxXCdu0va9ey by Iamthebammbamm@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:09:16Z
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@GMOdysseys lol, the army has studied this extensively and has a lower IQ cutoff for people who can't do shit
(DIR) Post #AVX46ue92bMssXJoOm by KillerMule@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:09:26Z
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@GMOdysseys I have a plastic plate of government plastic, Clark.
(DIR) Post #AVX48qqi88ingG7Xe4 by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:09:47Z
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@Iamthebammbamm and has that policy produced measurable outcomes?
(DIR) Post #AVX4KKpwydAfs5EzJI by Iamthebammbamm@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:11:51Z
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@GMOdysseys yes, people below an IQ of I think 86 can't be trained to do anything in the army.
(DIR) Post #AVX4WAuFiyk6XytmvA by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:14:00Z
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@Iamthebammbamm “Can’t be trained” because the army wont train them? Also, I love that the cutoff number is 86 😂
(DIR) Post #AVX4aO5cePv2apE3NY by Iamthebammbamm@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:14:45Z
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@GMOdysseys no like the army tried to train lower and couldn't. Why 86?
(DIR) Post #AVX4hZdM82JWQJQmEy by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:16:04Z
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@Iamthebammbamm 86 is often code for “we are out of this item” or “this person has been kicked out and is no longer allowed here” in the service industry
(DIR) Post #AVX4mLUO951E0DVnMG by Iamthebammbamm@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:16:55Z
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@GMOdysseys maybe this is why
(DIR) Post #AVX4px3Ax0LdMgVE2a by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:17:34Z
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@Iamthebammbamm if a person tests below 86 and is rejected, are they allowed to return and try again later to try and score higher?
(DIR) Post #AVX4tx3mr8C6YOhDQO by Iamthebammbamm@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:18:18Z
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@GMOdysseys no idea. I got an 87 so they let me in
(DIR) Post #AVX50ikqRSbCDH41D6 by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T03:19:31Z
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@Iamthebammbamm I salute you 🫡This is somewhat interesting… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(number)
(DIR) Post #AVX9DNuBfbeh8CjAyu by ned@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T04:06:37Z
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@GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm no, because they literally can't be trained. In the same way you can't teach a 2yo to play chess.
(DIR) Post #AVXB6j052a2yRCR6gq by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T04:27:50Z
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@ned Even if the 2yo has an IQ of 87?@Iamthebammbamm
(DIR) Post #AVXBvMRwduTVGccBQO by DF15@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T04:36:59Z
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@GMOdysseys Conversations in themselves can perform as IQ tests. It's been studied many times that higher IQ individuals can have a harder time communicating with lower IQ individuals and it is recommended to refrain from in depth conversation with individuals who could be more than 15+ IQ points off of yourself. As someone who scored over a 130 on IQ tests 3 times whether that means anything or not, conversing with some people can be impossible as with logic outside of binary thought
(DIR) Post #AVXCeSIjjYRYRjoJFo by ned@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T04:45:08Z
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@GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm IQ is age adjusted. So yeah. Kid could have an IQ of 150, they still won't be able to remember anything you tell them.
(DIR) Post #AVXEyUfArURPTIzK1Q by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T05:11:10Z
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@DF15 best answer so far 😂😂😂
(DIR) Post #AVXFTU4R7B4abwa7bE by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T05:16:46Z
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@DF15 @ned I heard that an IQ of 145+ is required to be able to be able to ask the question of whether or not IQ is an overly-simplistic metric and whether or not it actually supports a model that can make predictions about individuals or populations.
(DIR) Post #AVXGlyT6vzmU3UVHqS by ned@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T05:31:19Z
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@GMOdysseys @DF15 LOL, sure.
(DIR) Post #AVXH0YDmnqfCzkHoSu by ned@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T05:33:57Z
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@DF15 @GMOdysseys >logic outside of binary thought.Formal logic is mostly binary thought.
(DIR) Post #AVXcxyurIIsFuTc4My by MartinJJ@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-11T09:40:00Z
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@GMOdysseys The education system uses this. They only don’t call all the endless testing IQ. Jobs are related to the level you flunk. 🧐
(DIR) Post #AVXiO2Fq0KRpZ0fWC0 by SaintGuinefort@poa.st
2023-05-11T10:40:44.807725Z
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@ned @DF15 @GMOdysseys Everyone knows that the ternary operator is for wankers who cant communicate clearly
(DIR) Post #AVXinkJVKYVXRydxD6 by SaintGuinefort@poa.st
2023-05-11T10:45:23.644491Z
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@GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm MacNamara’s morons. They tried reeducating the dumb. It didn’t work. Below a certain IQ, people are a danger to themselves and others.Competency tests (that are low key IQ tests) are widely used in recruiting in civilian and military roles. They have been for a long time. And yes, there are scores they set for who can or can not be expected to perform in a role. (they’ve also been used in the inverse to exclude people who’s core too high as their judged to get bored or insubordinate)Maybe google ASVAB and it’s equivalents.
(DIR) Post #AVXj0VLeHbDmngjKs4 by SaintGuinefort@poa.st
2023-05-11T10:47:41.945825Z
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@ned @DF15 @GMOdysseys (I love the ternary operator and list compression, non-autists can get filtered)
(DIR) Post #AVXkXU0gNYaiA1DFI0 by PunishedD@poa.st
2023-05-11T11:04:51.862152Z
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@GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm @SaintGuinefort @GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm It's not just the army. Tests show that under 85 IQ, it's impossible to train people for multi-step tasks. Sometimes jobs like stuffing 2 different envelope types is too complicated for them.Basically the cognitive ability rapidly declines from 90 down to about 85.
(DIR) Post #AVZ0IZU9X4TPDsruPw by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-12T01:36:09Z
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@MartinJJ haha there should be a “following orders” quotient
(DIR) Post #AVZ0SbVkr5KuOyOyGm by GMOdysseys@noagendasocial.com
2023-05-12T01:37:58Z
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@PunishedD @Iamthebammbamm @SaintGuinefort Can a person with an IQ < 85 increase their IQ?
(DIR) Post #AVZ0f90S9AZVlBjxUe by charliebrownau@poa.st
2023-05-12T01:40:14.464871Z
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@GMOdysseys @PunishedD @Iamthebammbamm @SaintGuinefort NoWhy cant we admit we have different IQ'sandLow IQ's are better off Hard LaborFarmingLow skill jobsNot everyone should or attempt to become a Doctor, lawer or at (((( UNI )))infactIf we focused onSmall BusinessSmall FarmsPhsyical LaborConstructionetcWe would be better off withoutDoctorsLawersand ((( Experts)))------What does increase IQ is when Africans and Arabs mix with higher IQ races (Japanese/Jews/White Europeans)
(DIR) Post #AVZ1EtY55yBCFCW6ZE by AUc34pg7Dq80K0xUzQ.spitfire@poster.place
2023-05-12T01:46:41.513617Z
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@charliebrownau @GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm @PunishedD @SaintGuinefort
(DIR) Post #AVZ2wk6heytpepBPZA by Lizard_Person@poa.st
2023-05-12T01:59:50.184625Z
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@charliebrownau @GMOdysseys @PunishedD @Iamthebammbamm @SaintGuinefort high IQs working simple jobs are the foundation of civilization, making small improvements to fundamental processes in their basic fields.midwits are a plague that make up Doctors Lawyers and ((( Experts))), IQs too low to absorb data and turn it into knowledge or creative enough to make something from it,IQ just high enough to absorb someone elses simplified knowledge and regurgitate it, believing their smart and FUCK every thing up.education is not intelligence, Aristotle didn't read Aristotle to become Aristotle
(DIR) Post #AVZ3TySDL67di55g5w by PunishedD@poa.st
2023-05-12T02:11:50.147839Z
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@GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm @GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm @SaintGuinefort That question is what got Charles Murray in trouble when writing The Bell Curve.To summarize a ton of research: sometimes. It depends on when you're measuring it, and what beneficial effects have already been applied.You have higher IQ when you're young, it falls over the decades with age, but you can boost it with education or IQ-specific training. The problem is there's limits to the boosts, and they have diminishing returns; you can't just keep piling on education for infinite gains. If you have trouble learning in the first place (sub 90) you won't get as big a benefit. If you pile a lot of it onto an average kid (starting at 100), you can get him to above average, but not true genius.Before the Bell Curve, progressive theory was that if we just got everyone educated and raised their standards of living, it would smooth out the racial and wealth IQ differences to a rough mean. The controversy was when Murray showed that even when accounting for education and wealth constant, the racial disparities were almost unchanged. Also, the education boosting effect was already present in the data by 1990s, meaning there wasn't likely to be a lot of improvement from more education in the future.Of course there's always quirks in individual cases--a kid who's terrible at math can get a big IQ boost by highly focused math tutoring, for example. That's a reflection of how IQ is an aggregate measurement of specific types of intellectual potential. Bell Curve-type population studies don't really address those, you'd need to go to developmental psychologists for better answers.
(DIR) Post #AVZb95178lFqQOchiS by SaintGuinefort@poa.st
2023-05-12T08:29:01.897525Z
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@GMOdysseys @PunishedD @Iamthebammbamm Really depends on what you mean. Within very limited success you can marginally increase your score on tests used to measure cognitive ability. Additionally factors like sleep could certainly effect how you perform on IQ testsHowever, the thing that they’re measuring seems to largely innate and resistant change according to external stimuli. Various exercises have been tried, but they don’t really shift the needle. Ultimately your cognitive ability is determined by hereditary factors.Much like height, you likely have a natural limit and external intervention only seems to retarded that. The best we can he help people teach their natural potential
(DIR) Post #AVZh9MKJNnw9po7RaK by SaintGuinefort@poa.st
2023-05-12T09:36:18.559069Z
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@PunishedD @GMOdysseys @Iamthebammbamm One area that covertly receives attention is early childhood interventions. Mothers, in our modern context, are understandably anxious that if they don’t begin the right habits and education early enough that they’re kid will be a failure. Many researchers have gone out of their way to prove that most of the things you do to a child before ten don’t really affects their lifelong outcomes. Obviously they need basic education to function in society, and trauma will ruin them for life. But, at the end of the day the heritage of a child and the social caste of the people who raise them are what matter most (in terms of achievement). And in terms of cognitive testing, heritage predicts upwards of 80% of an individual’s ability. Same as height, preferred smells, allergies, and political orientation