Post AVTw7C5indFLsJxd8S by larthallor@universeodon.com
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(DIR) Post #AVTtFnUDLkQQJ9pNlg by SrRochardBunson@universeodon.com
2023-05-09T12:27:12Z
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This is the message. Shout it from the rooftops and beat the GOP to death with it.
(DIR) Post #AVTtFoNW28f34fhXxw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-09T14:23:36Z
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@SrRochardBunson what does it mean "refusing to pay for it"...isnt a tax cut by definition, something you dont have to pay?
(DIR) Post #AVTug6wBkkx27O1WzY by larthallor@universeodon.com
2023-05-09T14:39:35Z
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@freemo @SrRochardBunson He means that the GOP can no longer hide behind the ruse of "fiscal responsibility" to cover their actual goal of helping the rich get richer at the expense of the vast majority of American voters.
(DIR) Post #AVTv8k3JuyKVXW0n2W by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-09T14:44:44Z
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@larthallor @SrRochardBunson Ahh so I guess he meant "pay" figuratively... got it!
(DIR) Post #AVTvIgTW4dIhL90POS by larthallor@universeodon.com
2023-05-09T14:46:34Z
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@freemo @SrRochardBunson If they actually cared about the debt, they would only make tax cuts in one area that are paid for by spending cuts in another so as to keep a balanced budget. Clearly, the do not actually care about a balanced budget.
(DIR) Post #AVTvZUjUz5DtqSUsyG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-09T14:49:34Z
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@larthallor Not to defend the GOP but im not sure its that simple. If they could have their way they would probably cut all or most social programs and give the highest tax bracket a tax cut. Hopefully achieving a balanced budget.But its not like they have free reign and actually get to cut social programs (since democrats block it). Not saying that is wrong of the dems to block, just saying they dont really have the choice to control both sides of the equation.
(DIR) Post #AVTw7C5indFLsJxd8S by larthallor@universeodon.com
2023-05-09T14:55:41Z
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@freemo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast
(DIR) Post #AVTw8jN2YMXzNXnIoq by pixelpusher220@universeodon.com
2023-05-09T14:55:57Z
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@freemo @SrRochardBunson if you have income of $100K and expenses of $120K and decided to give $50K to your investment guy, you still have a $50K+interest hole in your actual budget. Now imagine your investment guy lost 40% of the money and still hasn't returned any of it.
(DIR) Post #AVTwFIG1l1lnJedwtU by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-09T14:57:08Z
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@larthallor I am familiar with the concept... It is self destructive because it assumes the democrats will act responsibly and not spend money they dont have.. but we all know that the democrats are just as reckless to their ideals as the conservatives, so such a tactic in practice doesnt work.
(DIR) Post #AVUqfiFzJH6wuincNU by gooba42@mastodon.social
2023-05-10T01:29:24Z
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@freemo @larthallor They have zero intention of balancing the budget. They only intend to cripple the government's ability to function.Regulation is inherently unprofitable. If it were the cheapest/most lucrative way of behaving, companies wouldn't need to be forced to clean up their own pollution, pay minimum wage, honor contracts, etc.
(DIR) Post #AVUwXlpAlHY5O1qvMO by Anonymous0Troll@universeodon.com
2023-05-10T02:35:12Z
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@freemo @larthallor They care nothing for a balanced budget."My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."-Grover NorquistThey do not have free reign, but they are trying to leverage the tyranny by the minority to accomplish their unpopular policy objectives.
(DIR) Post #AVVMfjGsjecaaqGkCW by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-10T07:27:56Z
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@Anonymous0Troll @larthallor Ehh if they have the votes thry arent a minority by definition, though i do see what you mean (since they are very slightly less than 50% in the general population and by popular vote).They are simply voting for their agenda, blindly and without consideration for the bigger picture... just like democrats they just do it from tbe other side with different agendas.
(DIR) Post #AVVVLbw3CSLndY0VEW by kegill@mastodon.social
2023-05-10T09:05:10Z
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@freemo That would not balance the budget. Recall that historically the GOP acts hawkish. Defense budget dwarfs social programs… it’s approaching $1,000,000,000,000.
(DIR) Post #AVVVfWzHJ1kQ5C11E0 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-10T09:08:45Z
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@kegill Possibly.. i mean their reluctance to reduce the defense budget is an issue. That said they could gut social programs and potentially balance it with tax cuts, so that is legit... though its an idiotic way to balance it IMO.
(DIR) Post #AVWTXPW7BunXqZKoIC by duckwhistle@mastodon.org.uk
2023-05-10T20:19:36Z
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@freemo @SrRochardBunson That's not how government budgets work. Especially not for Neoliberalist like the GOP.If you insist on not creating additional money, you either have to match taxation to spending or you have to increase borrowing. The US is very weird in that it tries to treat borrowing as something completely independent of its budget.
(DIR) Post #AVWgL2xkWKeXpDhAES by kegill@mastodon.social
2023-05-10T22:43:02Z
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@freemo Ummm. Tax cuts are what got us upside down!Defense $ is about HALF of discretionary spending. Trillions. And we spend more than the next 10, including China and Russia, combined. It. Is. Obscene. https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison