Post AVS3Ua67XKtTmr2N6m by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
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(DIR) Post #AVS3UY7StMmTeRePvU by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-05-08T14:13:51Z
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I do believe more #mastodon users should use #BlueSky there’s a lot that the team and users in general can learn from those in the #fediverse and clear up misconceptions
(DIR) Post #AVS3UYrY81dzxNDDl2 by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-05-08T14:18:28Z
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@damonoutlaw you think folks on bluesky are amenable to mastodon? I always figured they had some beef i was never aware of.For example, why would AOC join over there but not here? is it because no one told her? heh. I reached out to her campaign team and drafted an email and even wrote a handwritten letter and never got a response.Seems like something i'm missing
(DIR) Post #AVS3UZTTqzz9r0xVse by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-05-08T14:30:48Z
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@supernovae @atomicpoet @mekkaokereke are both on there and have several times attempted to educate people
(DIR) Post #AVS3Ua67XKtTmr2N6m by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-05-08T14:36:42Z
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@damonoutlaw @supernovae @atomicpoet Every major reason that AOC and other celebrities that care about Black and brown users are on BlueSky and not on Mastodon, have been covered here, by myself, and by others. Multiple times.Many of us here opt not to do any of the very basic things that would help people choose Mastodon, then invent reasons why people prefer BlueSky over Mastodon.These invented reasons for a pre-determined projection of what Fediverse people think these users want. 🤷🏿♂️
(DIR) Post #AVS3Uakt5lVHpI6veS by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-05-08T14:55:51Z
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@mekkaokereke @damonoutlaw @atomicpoet My letter writing campaign didn't start or end with AOC and I guess i should have cited a different example as it was me reaching out to pop culture folks in hopes to start the conversation.Heck, it often doesn't even work on here ;)Hey, i have search."Mastodon doesn't have search!!!"it's open source - anyone can add this search - here is the code."Mastodon doesn't have search"I feel like i'm limited because people think mastodon/fediverse is only what Eugen or someone else thinks it is.I can assure you one thing - the founders idea of BSKY isn't the same Idea as everyone who uses it.Why do we do that to ourselves here?
(DIR) Post #AVS3UbM6rNHHgjWefY by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-05-08T15:22:57Z
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@supernovae @damonoutlaw @atomicpoet The book "Don't make me think!" comes to mind.Tech people, especially OSS folk, expect non-tech folk to do way more work than is realistic. Our decision to underinvest and under-prioritize both marketing and user experience design, is directly responsible for people choosing different options.But rather than internalize this as "How can we onboard better / explain value better / increase safety?" We tend to externalize it as "Why don't they get it?"
(DIR) Post #AVS3Uc9jsqycAekI1g by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-05-08T15:27:37Z
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@supernovae @damonoutlaw @atomicpoet A gross over simplification:* Onboarding onto Mastodon sucks for Black women. It's a terrible experience. Awful, unsafe, unfun, unpredictable.* Being on Mastodon sucks for Black women. HOA racism.* Onboarding onto BlueSky, and being on BlueSky, is better for Black women.* Black women are culturally relevant. They're 6 to 12 months in front of everyone. Celebrities and politicians follow Black women.* Journalists follow celebrities and politicians.
(DIR) Post #AVS3Ucn5WYS68h9iMK by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-05-08T15:30:34Z
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@supernovae @damonoutlaw @atomicpoet People like to pretend that this dynamic doesn't exist, so they try to skip right over the Black women part, and recruit the celebrities, journalists, and politicians directly. But it don't work like that.I've said many times, that the social media network where young Black and brown women feel comfortable and safe to create, is the one that grows. No exceptions.Tik-Tok (Black women dances)Vine (Black comedy shorts)Twitter (Black Twitter)
(DIR) Post #AVS3UdIHeZPDhRkcz2 by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
2023-05-08T17:03:10Z
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@mekkaokereke @supernovae @damonoutlaw Once again, you have excellent insights. There’s a few things I wonder about, though:1. What will happen if Bluesky is impermanent, as Jack Dorsey hopes it will be?2. What will happen once federation occurs with Bluesky, and we start seeing the same HOA problems that are occurring on the rest of the Fediverse?At that moment, Bluesky can’t control things—and they don’t even want to.
(DIR) Post #AVS3Ue0azoqpusU13I by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
2023-05-08T17:06:53Z
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@mekkaokereke @supernovae @damonoutlaw For what it’s worth, it seems that folks on Bluesky are becoming more and more excited about decentralization. Which makes me happy. This is absolutely the way social media should go. But there will be an unavoidable price. And that is communities will need to arise to do the moderating. And these moderators will probably be volunteers.
(DIR) Post #AVSAloN6Q3KMeu8xcW by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-08T18:29:57Z
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@damonoutlaw Nah.
(DIR) Post #AVSAs6keznu1OuAHU8 by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-05-08T18:31:12Z
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@rolle that’s absolutely fine. It’s that same attitude that has turned people away & what others are actively trying to work against
(DIR) Post #AVSBL0oW9RlNNnkfI0 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-08T18:36:35Z
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@damonoutlaw Hmm? Turrned away from what?
(DIR) Post #AVVnpofCEvRqyVfzl2 by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-05-08T15:48:13Z
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@mekkaokereke @damonoutlaw @atomicpoet I don't dispute this dynamic whatsoever.How does anyone stand out and create a safe space for people and be recognized for such when we do nothing of the sorts?
(DIR) Post #AVVnppNrYrB3D2ZfNY by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-05-08T16:10:50Z
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@supernovae @mekkaokereke @atomicpoet makes sense.The thing is safety is multilayered. It’s not as simple as a block. There’s a number of reasons why minority women do not feel safe. It’s always better to start there. Engage in good faith, be willing to be silent and just listen. It’s not about us or our feelings, it’s about them being heard and valued.
(DIR) Post #AVVnpq4P0hClKyTdgW by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-05-08T16:49:11Z
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@damonoutlaw @mekkaokereke @atomicpoet I'm listening.I'm listening in 10 places and being told 10 different things.If i could narrow that down to a few things we could champion that help all 10 places, that would be better for my sanity and exhaustion levels :)
(DIR) Post #AVVnpqnmHzV7bhhsPY by davidslifka@mastodon.social
2023-05-08T17:05:50Z
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@supernovae @damonoutlaw @mekkaokereke @atomicpoet Here's a list I put together of things I read and heard in case it's helpful. Haven't shared publicly til now, but feel free to share if helpful.Looking back at it in the context of this discussion, it clarifies why some people would feel more comfortable on a nascent BlueSky than on Mastodon as it exists today.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ihmQgucBmEdEEuPPrbUiI4GBBDCCqucXniXdqTaaLkc/edit?usp=sharing
(DIR) Post #AVVnpri8uQaUQW4tGa by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-05-08T17:08:20Z
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@davidslifka wow this is fantastic. Thank you for taking the time to put this together
(DIR) Post #AVVnpsnqqgkRoVkxns by davidslifka@mastodon.social
2023-05-08T17:12:05Z
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@damonoutlaw Thank you, I really appreciate that!
(DIR) Post #AVVo12NBbmaogCbRJY by gatesvp@mstdn.ca
2023-05-08T21:13:52Z
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@davidslifka @supernovae @damonoutlaw @mekkaokereke @atomicpoet It feels like the common thread in all of this is moderation. It seems like PoC need a server that isn't managed by white folks. Because they're not going to get the moderation outcomes they deserve from people who don't share their experiences.What would it look like to have some full-time black mods running some instances? Would that be useful?
(DIR) Post #AVVoPe5v0pVEcYGCGG by zleap@qoto.org
2023-05-10T12:38:49Z
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@gatesvp @davidslifka @supernovae @damonoutlaw @mekkaokereke @atomicpoet You have a good point here, we need to find a way to make it easier for people to set up / run their own instance, share block lists and share expertise so anyone from any background can create their own space based on the needs of the people they serve.I made another post where I would really like to see more basic digitial skills courses at least mentioning the fediverse, we need to create demand so that will happen.Once that happens we can also work on more advanced courses to help people run their own instances.
(DIR) Post #AVVonDi2lN6FjsKm1Y by supernovae@universeodon.com
2023-05-10T12:43:04Z
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@zleap @gatesvp @davidslifka @damonoutlaw @mekkaokereke @atomicpoet No, the answer to social media shouldn't be build it yourself. It shouldn't be isolate your communities to their own servers. It shouldn't be go do your own moderation and do your own thing.That isn't how we get people to feel welcomed here.When people go to facebook or twitter, they don't need to build facebook or twitter.We just need to provide what people want here.Segregating our neighborhoods is being part of the problem.
(DIR) Post #AVVzyCBfrTG5hQd66i by zleap@qoto.org
2023-05-10T14:48:18Z
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@supernovae @gatesvp @davidslifka @damonoutlaw @mekkaokereke @atomicpoet Good point, sorry ,