Post AVQQ2kfaXtun64PEzA by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AVQQ2kfaXtun64PEzA by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
2023-05-07T16:50:44Z
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I'm test driving #kbin for public groups.Like #Friendica, /kbin can ban trolls from participating in groups.Unlike Friendica, you can remove posts local to where the group is hosted.Unfortunately, the offending comments still appears in user timelines because other Fediverse servers do not delete after comments are removed locally.Another alternative could be #Calckey which supports groups through "Channels". However these do *NOT* federate.@fediversenews
(DIR) Post #AVQQ2lLQ2NNLBnyeBc by lapingvino@neurodifferent.me
2023-05-07T17:28:46Z
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@atomicpoet Maybe give #Hylo a try as well. It doesn't federate yet, but they might add that in the future, and it IS open source.
(DIR) Post #AVQQ2m1xUDP3JjscUa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-05-07T22:12:05Z
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@lapingvino> Maybe give Hylo a try as wellYMMV but I didn't enjoy the UX of Hylo. If you're looking for a non-federated group service, Loomio is worth a try. It has some really good decision-making tools.@atomicpoet
(DIR) Post #AVQThgMFmWb3SXZTFo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-05-07T22:53:08Z
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@atomicpoet> I'm test driving #kbin for public groupsIs Lemmy useful for this? Apparently John Mastodon has finally decided to add group support, so watch this space...@fediversenews
(DIR) Post #AVQTy7GpUOjJYns1lw by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
2023-05-07T17:30:00Z
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@lapingvino Federation is pretty important.
(DIR) Post #AVQTy7tTAjddUdwt04 by lapingvino@neurodifferent.me
2023-05-07T17:32:32Z
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@tibetsprague work to do here 🙃
(DIR) Post #AVQTy8cqS1vzlNB7j6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-05-07T22:56:07Z
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@lapingvino> work to do hereSpeaking of which, how's the refactoring of Hylo to run on HoloChain going?@tibetsprague
(DIR) Post #AVQUFGIhAWq2UPv1lI by lapingvino@neurodifferent.me
2023-05-07T22:59:10Z
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@strypey Loomio is made for the decision making part basically, Hylo is thinking about integrating some of those elements as well. The vision of Hylo is broader than Loomio though. For "simple" groups Loomio is pretty good, for sure!
(DIR) Post #AVRYgUqVn7LUOXwDlg by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-05-08T11:23:38Z
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@lapingvino> The vision of Hylo is broaderHow so, from where you're sitting?
(DIR) Post #AVRYzMc6ch12MgCEka by lapingvino@neurodifferent.me
2023-05-08T11:27:04Z
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@strypey Hylo's main focus is communities that have a strong local element and that makes communities meet among each other. The Hylo system has a public element and a map element that accomplish this throughout. It's about online communities secondary to real life communities. Now I would say that this is also a strong element of Loomio, as it started as a decision making tool and not a community tool, and the community elements came to enable the decision making part, but as such the decision making of the local communities is the core element, whereas with Hylo the core vision is about regaining ownership of society by taking responsibility of our local communities.
(DIR) Post #AVRbR3NPwGYKieeo64 by maegul@hachyderm.io
2023-05-08T00:20:38Z
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@strypey @atomicpoet @fediversenews Lemmy communities certainly can serve as groups across the fediverse. I don’t know what moderating features the admin of a community gets though. Worth finding out.
(DIR) Post #AVRbR479CF8H0U3KNM by maegul@hachyderm.io
2023-05-08T04:06:37Z
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@strypey @atomicpoet @fediversenews So the #Lemmy docs cover the essentials. Seems pretty good. A community has moderators specific to that community, who can also moderate over federation from another instance!Also, it seems a user can be locked out from a specific thread without being banned from the community.Creating a new community is open to all lemmy to and following one subscribes you to the group like with friendica (just in case you didn’t know)https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/users/04-moderation.html
(DIR) Post #AVRbR7NZ3f2z8Gkysi by maegul@hachyderm.io
2023-05-08T04:12:38Z
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@strypey @atomicpoet @fediversenews I’ve posted a question about this on @asklemmy here, which might attract some more details: https://lemmy.ml/post/1012205
(DIR) Post #AVT5FzIZGpF0vdbfmK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-05-09T05:03:23Z
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@lapingvino > with Hylo the core vision is about regaining ownership of society by taking responsibility of our local communitiesSo it's more about nurturing the mycelium connecting various local community groups, rather than providing services that help those groups organize themselves?
(DIR) Post #AVTSSc5eKn8ZxvDyy0 by lapingvino@neurodifferent.me
2023-05-09T08:57:46Z
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@strypey mycelium? also, do you think improving one thing is detrimental to the rest? because that is a very common and not true fallacy.
(DIR) Post #AVU5phr8xVroimRSj2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-05-09T16:44:31Z
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@lapingvinoMycelium is the fungal life form of which mushrooms are the fruit. > do you think improving one thing is detrimental to the restAbsolutely not. Apologies if my post gave the impression I was criticising Hylo for having a different focus. Rather I was just restating your post in different words, to check whether I understood the point you were making.
(DIR) Post #AVU7Lo0PjLk90xeF8a by lapingvino@neurodifferent.me
2023-05-09T17:01:27Z
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@strypey basically something like that yeah. It's about tooling human community building.
(DIR) Post #AVgaknb3cJSLYMZpC4 by tibetsprague@social.coop
2023-05-15T17:27:31Z
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@strypey @lapingvino Deeper exploration really starting here now that their beta is released. We are actually starting to do some dev work with the Holochain core team which is giving us a much better understanding of their architecture and what is possible. The next step on the Hylo side is to create a desktop app for Hylo which can act as a Holochain client. Which is great because we need this anyway! But this is still not a short term endeavor.