Post AVLiJHxtLjdKNVCdTk by rysiek@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AVLiJHxtLjdKNVCdTk by rysiek@mstdn.social
2023-05-05T15:27:56Z
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This is your irregular reminder #Adobe are fucking dicks:https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3xk3p/adobe-tells-users-they-can-get-sued-for-using-old-versions-of-photoshop> Adobe Tells Users They Can Get Sued for Using Old Versions of PhotoshopWe need #FLOSS tools to get to the point where they can replace Adobe tools. The alternatives are great, but they are sadly not there yet to replace Adobe tools for professionals.And won't be unless projects like @inkscape get enough funding to develop to a point of being viable alternatives.Yes, it is in no small part about the money.
(DIR) Post #AVLiJIgueLe6d8GaeW by rysiek@mstdn.social
2023-05-05T15:34:54Z
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If you can replace #Adobe tools in your workflow today, great, more power to you! Not everyone can, sadly.Tools like @inkscape, @Krita and @Blender are fantastic and built with love and energy and care. But in many cases they are still not an option for a lot of creative types.So support them if you can. Use them if they work for you. Help improve them if you have the skills (that includes writing documentation, and working on better UI/UX!).The better they get, the weaker Adobe becomes! 👀
(DIR) Post #AVLiJJMk8p6eirpzqy by Adam@social.lein.us
2023-05-05T15:43:19Z
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@rysiek Yeah, I wish @inkscape, @Krita, @Blender, @GIMP, @kdenlive, & Scribus could team up for a more-consistent (yet customizable for efficiency) UI/UX design.
(DIR) Post #AVLnKeHWMVQxeUqt8q by orowith2os@tech.lgbt
2023-05-05T16:39:34Z
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@Adam @rysiek @inkscape @krita @Blender @GIMP @kdenlive better to work on consistency and making it easier to follow first (good UI design) and focus on customizability later. If you do customizability right out of the gate, it makes things a lot harder to manage.
(DIR) Post #AVLpJje38Sf3uB58Cm by wilmhit@social.handholding.io
2023-05-05T16:56:41.746284Z
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@rysiek @inkscape I don't see what's new here but will boost. Maybe someone else will find it lifechanging
(DIR) Post #AVLrAUePiJYqhgyO5A by rysiek@mstdn.social
2023-05-05T17:03:01Z
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@wilmhit there is nothing new here. But people need reminders of this so that they try that FLOSS piece of software they've been meaning to try for a while, or start supporting that project they've been meaning to for a while.
(DIR) Post #AVLzxkjFWYMYOLEb4K by Adam@social.lein.us
2023-05-05T19:01:06Z
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@orowith2os @rysiek Yes, "Easy to learn" should 100% be priority in #UXdesign, and none of them are at the moment. https://bookofadamz.com/general-user-experience-design-guidance/ @inkscape @Krita @Blender @GIMP @kdenlive
(DIR) Post #AVM2pd3QTR9A8RUQaW by khoji@ieji.de
2023-05-05T19:33:17Z
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@rysiek @inkscape Also a reminder that Adobe isn’t alone. Phase One, makers of Capture One, the Lightroom alternative, are working very hard to out-dick Adobe. They haven’t quite made it yet, but they’re getting there.
(DIR) Post #AVM5NrKe5zqqAezhOi by jlapoutre@mastodon.online
2023-05-05T16:46:34Z
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@rysiek @inkscape for me #inkscape is the clear winner when a clean SVG is required. The ones generated by Adobe Illustrator are hot garbage even beyond repair
(DIR) Post #AVM5NsIYVFm1AT1XmK by doctormo@fosstodon.org
2023-05-05T19:34:42Z
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@jlapoutre @rysiek @inkscape The main claim that "FLOSS ... alternatives ... are sadly not there yet ... for professionals"Is one that is much more complex than this binary would suggest. It depends on which professionals you mean. Scientists? Wood workers? Glass blowers? Web designers?Each workflow in each business or industry has it's own assessment of Inkscape as a replacement tool.But the answer is correct: Invest in programmers please.
(DIR) Post #AVM7izn82T5aOfWV1s by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-05-05T20:28:06Z
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@rysiek That is honestly insulting to all f*cking d*cks everywhere.Regardless of your gender and sexual orientation (WHICH IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS, OK?) having sexual intercoruse with a d*ck can be a very pleasurable experience.Dealing with Adobe... Not so much.
(DIR) Post #AVM8I9hVBjuFGVemv2 by rysiek@mstdn.social
2023-05-05T20:24:25Z
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@adrienne and nobody is asking you to.The dynamic I mentioned is not about the willingness to paper over shortcomings, it's about the weird assumption that somehow "FLOSS people" and "creatives" (for want of better term) are two completely separate groups, almost warring tribes.And my question is about how to change that. Because "FLOSS people" won't learn about all these things unless somebody is willing to help them learn.@nombreapellido @inkscape @Krita @GIMP
(DIR) Post #AVM8IBOQtbqCVwkaTQ by rysiek@mstdn.social
2023-05-05T20:26:37Z
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@adrienne I am also not saying *you personally* should do this work — and it is work!But this dynamic is what needs to change before we can have real hope these FLOSS alternatives become actually useful for professionals.So this work needs to be done by *someone*, or people will remain in Adobe's clutches, forever complaining about Adobe's bullshit but never able to leave it behind.@nombreapellido @inkscape @Krita @GIMP
(DIR) Post #AVM8VPVthx2e4YY7xA by alcinnz@floss.social
2023-05-05T20:16:46Z
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@doctormo @jlapoutre @rysiek @inkscape Just the other day I remarked on a disconnect where FOSS-adjacent folks who don't trust opensource UX to have improved, & FOSS folks who don't trust them to be judging based on our current state.I don't know what to take from this dynamic beyond meaningless noise to disprove...
(DIR) Post #AVM8VQBjCQVCAI7X9c by doctormo@fosstodon.org
2023-05-05T20:32:59Z
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@alcinnz @jlapoutre @rysiek @inkscape There's a period at the start of a relationship with a generous gift giving ceremonies and a presumption of basic trust.What often seems to kill the relationship is different expectations. Many users want to be pampered, or at least taken care of cheaply. While foss expects involvement or if you want to be taken care of it's expensive. Because of economies of scale.So if you're a FOSSP, don't hide your relationship model! Set expectations!
(DIR) Post #AVMJF9lfa58Q6JNY5A by hehemrin@social.librem.one
2023-05-05T22:37:10Z
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@rysiek I'm a non-pro. Last year I migrated my photo catalog from Adobe Photoshop Elements, via Lightroom classic to get more metadata (in particulare face tagging) migrated, over to digiKam. For that purpose, FOSS #digiKam works well. I also try it for editing. In addition, I have started to explore and use FOSS #RawTherapee for editing and will likely add FOSS #GIMP (I have used it now and then). A few times FOSS #Inkscape. I still use non-FOSS AfterShot but will likely end that.@inkscape
(DIR) Post #AVMK7u95MkWLZmRAmm by ianp5a@social.vivaldi.net
2023-05-05T22:47:03Z
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@hehemrin @rysiek @inkscapeYes. That's exactly my line up for serious but non pro photography. And inkscape for non pro artwork too.Non pro to me means no productivity deadlines. But quality targets would be actually higher. As I have time, and I want results to satisfy myself.
(DIR) Post #AVMWwolQKisV6VPgsS by jake4480@c.im
2023-05-06T01:10:41Z
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@Adam @orowith2os @rysiek @inkscape @Krita @Blender @GIMP @kdenlive agree. It's my main problem with Photoshop, aside from the awful Adobe aspect, NOT easy to learn. Psyched to try out Krita, hadn't even heard of it!
(DIR) Post #AVMXlaEe6t94oSHxq4 by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2023-05-06T01:19:48.528001Z
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love how no one at Vice gives a shit anymore
(DIR) Post #AVNB51DPv2cGCkyLHE by nicemicro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-06T00:49:11Z
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@rysiek I am a big advocate for #FreeSoftware as really the ONLY way for consumer protection in terms of the software we use.I would never tell someone to not use Adobe for work on their work computer. My workplace needs me to use Windows and many proprietary software on my day job.That is a very different think than your personal computer at home. And I think many who use Adobe stuff for hobbies could probably switch to freedom-respecting software and still do everything they want to.
(DIR) Post #AVNB51k1xmhhpuEO6y by nicemicro@fosstodon.org
2023-05-06T00:53:26Z
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@rysiek in a business environment, the freedom-disrespecting EULA of proprietary software is an agreement between the software co and an other business, so in that case it does not bother me.For me personally, I'd rather not agree to terms like that (sometimes I do, because compromises, but that is an other topic).
(DIR) Post #AVNCZHZVlr0tZhIkqm by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-05-06T08:57:05.273Z
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@djsumdog@djsumdog.com I don't think they ever did.
(DIR) Post #AVNM9ap8ZKM5IR01Ls by toroidalcore@hackers.town
2023-05-06T03:54:11Z
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@rysiek @inkscape I feel like one of the big challenges with #FLOSS tools for things like image editing is that initially, FLOSS flourished where the users were more inclined to manipulate the tools themselves, and to do things like submit patches, take on more development roles, or even just read the code to try to understand it. It was a hit then for things like the Apache web server, and other GNU system tools - the users were closer to the code, so to speak, and would dabble in it to some extent.On the other hand, people using things like image editors are more thinking of creating whatever it is they're trying to create, as opposed to maintaining an infrastructure. Someone just editing a photo isn't necessarily thinking about the inner workings of their OS (to the extent someone hacking on a web server might be). So, there's more of a gap between the people who would be using that and the people who would be writing those tools. I like the way #Blender had open movie projects, where the developers would work alongside artists to produce an actual creative work. I think more of that kind of thing would benefit the likes of #Krita and the #GIMP, and other projects.
(DIR) Post #AVNhT7c0z7CZWk0ypM by seth@s3th.me
2023-05-06T14:42:45Z
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@rysiek @inkscape wow. That's bs
(DIR) Post #AVPWLyLcJy6TaSeYDI by jollyrogue@social.tulsa.ok.us
2023-05-07T04:46:00Z
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@orowith2os A good example of this is the Gnome team doing this for 3.People are still super mad about it though.@Adam @rysiek
(DIR) Post #AVPWLz8BPOx415NKue by Adam@social.lein.us
2023-05-07T11:48:10Z
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@jollyrogue Gnome 3 was one of the first desktop environments I tried as a beginner, and I hated it because it was both difficult to follow and difficult to customize! It doesn't even follow one of the most basic aspects of "easy to learn" #UXdesign; unambiguous navigation. Too many unintelligible icons! See: https://bookofadamz.com/general-user-experience-design-guidance/#labelbuttons @orowith2os @rysiek
(DIR) Post #AVSM6CAkjkuNlNI0Lg by coreysnipes@fosstodon.org
2023-05-05T15:38:49Z
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@rysiek Adobe's licensing tactics make me so mad. Every time I have had to reinstall or transfer software from Adobe it has been a major hassle. The benefits being a monopoly, I guess. I am trying to learn @darktable so I can ditch Lightroom. I would much rather send my $$ to a #FOSS project.
(DIR) Post #AVSMAdmW1rW0Y84XtA by jebba@jebba.moe
2023-05-05T16:02:24Z
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@coreysnipes @rysiek @darktable Darktable is great.There are also a lot of other libre replacements for other parts of the tool chain.https://librearts.org/
(DIR) Post #AVSMAzo28tnkrCx4JE by richard_merren@mastodon.social
2023-05-05T15:43:54Z
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@rysiek @inkscape @krita @Blender Don't leave out @GIMP and @darktable!
(DIR) Post #AVSMD74u4m8LzSqtI8 by alienghic@octodon.social
2023-05-05T16:23:44Z
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@rysiek @inkscape @krita @Blender Not sure how far they are in the being good alternatives to Adobe products, but I think these two are chipping away at other parts of the adobe empire.But people also mention @kdenlive (video editor) and @darktable (photography virtual "lighttable" and raw "developer" for digital photos)
(DIR) Post #AVSMGG4d5SmQl5DvRA by Aeder@stereophonic.space
2023-05-05T16:55:44.942824Z
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@rysiek @inkscape The only way I see any of the alternatives replacing Adobe products is if they do what Blender did: Try to create a professional quality product (like the blender shorts) regularly, and note in which ways the software is lacking either because it doesn't have certain features or because the UX to achieve them is not good, without falling into dumb criticism like "it's not exactly like the competition so it sucks". That and a lot of donations aimed at the needed improvements discovered with each attempt.With each cycle of improvement, more people can use it for work because it covers new use cases.
(DIR) Post #AVVL8e8CizyT8ps4kC by Zergling_man@birds.garden
2023-05-10T07:10:48.551076Z
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@rysiek @inkscape Funny how you have to pay to keep things free.
(DIR) Post #AVVv20TKrPQQkkt8zo by inkscape@mastodon.art
2023-05-10T13:52:34Z
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@Zergling_man @rysiek Inkscape will always be open source, so it is safe to assume there will always be an option to obtain it without paying, no matter what happens.But yes, we're asking for donations, to make things like Hackfests, outreach and faster development possible.