Post AVKL0ZYBFecnJPK5TM by hochata@emacs.ch
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(DIR) Post #AVKL0YZuriQ2IV7xXU by Alonealastalovedalongthe@toot.cafe
2023-05-04T23:31:31Z
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My least favorite part about #emacs is that the community of users is loudly dominated by the kind of people who would rather handbuild a canoe as a months long project than easily buy a cheap canoe on the used market.They can't understand how someone can see the beauty in learning how to make a canoe from the ground up themselves but still decide that if the objective is to go canoeing it is far better to get a canoe from someone vastly more experienced in designing and building canoes.
(DIR) Post #AVKL0ZYBFecnJPK5TM by hochata@emacs.ch
2023-05-04T23:47:30Z
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@Alonealastalovedalongthe Lol hahahaUnfortunately, I think the problem come from Emacs itself. It is so customizable to the point that- some packages are very opinionated- there usually are several solutions to similar (yet not identical) problems- seemingly unrelated packages are sometimes incompatible with each otherThis makes getting a pre-configured Emacs that satisfies all your need rather tricky. With that said, I think it has gotten better. Doom Emacs sound exactly like a "canoe from someone more experienced". And fortunately, a recent trend in Emacs packages seems to use more of the builtin functionality as common interfaces, so different packages interoperate more easily without having to tweak them to cooperate.
(DIR) Post #AVKL0ZpYD4WGBHRxY0 by Alonealastalovedalongthe@toot.cafe
2023-05-04T23:35:35Z
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This results in most of the content online about emacs distributions like spacemacs (that do a lot of legwork in creating cohesive, powerful and attractive experiences) being negative towards the very idea. Everybody should start from scratch!It makes no sense, deciding how to build out sensible keybindings for innumerable packages and functions is itself a massively complex and time consuming process.The whole point of software is so we don't have to repeat each others work right?
(DIR) Post #AVKLCpWLhQjqJoJM8G by Alonealastalovedalongthe@toot.cafe
2023-05-04T23:49:41Z
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@hochata Idk, I mainly just use emacs for org mode and have been using spacemacs for years. Doom sells itself as less opinionated than spacemacs and I don't understand why that means it is better.Good opinions are really useful!
(DIR) Post #AVMiPSLdqvw5TaDEki by hochata@emacs.ch
2023-05-06T03:19:09Z
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@Alonealastalovedalongthe Good! Then you should keep using Spacemacs! Emacs is to be used as you find it more comfortable.I think an issue with Emacs community in general (sorry if I'm too repetitive) is that opinions are can vary wildly. And some people have very strong opinions, sometime with abrasive attitudes, specially package authors. This means that sometimes sticking to someone's opinions you might dismiss some other package because the authors opinions don't align with what you have, and then you might miss very useful stuff!But at the end, if your current setup works for you, then it is already perfect.
(DIR) Post #AVMpQE2tDJif5QksxE by Alonealastalovedalongthe@toot.cafe
2023-05-06T04:37:41Z
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@hochata I can get on with that, I am just mainly an org mode using peasant anyways:party_parrot: :party_parrot: