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(DIR) Post #AVFYmECcFj2McIUVN2 by simon@fedi.simonwillison.net
2023-05-02T16:26:24Z
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If you built a macOS desktop app that makes notification sounds even when the machine is in "Do Not Disturb" focus mode you should feel very bad about what you have done(My laptop made two mysterious ping noises during the online talk I gave this morning)
(DIR) Post #AVFZ6vboZuWv1z9FGy by vwampage@xoxo.zone
2023-05-02T16:29:53Z
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@simon this is my least favorite thing about Discord
(DIR) Post #AVFZAExB70QTtbihX6 by ian@mckellar.social
2023-05-02T16:32:32Z
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@simon never trust an app that isn't a web app.
(DIR) Post #AVFZHpDkfYwuP75ZcO by numist@xoxo.zone
2023-05-02T16:33:52Z
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@ian @simon it was probably a web app that made the DND-ignorant noise đ
(DIR) Post #AVFZJXPRrXHxk5NPZA by simon@fedi.simonwillison.net
2023-05-02T16:30:16Z
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@vwampage oh that may well have been it!
(DIR) Post #AVFZLmhJzZB1jlo9Ds by ian@mckellar.social
2023-05-02T16:34:36Z
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@numist @simon that's a browser bug.
(DIR) Post #AVFZUFeIEhhTqPQdtI by FeralRobots@mastodon.social
2023-05-02T16:31:20Z
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@simon on a related note, my phone sounds a fairly loud gong when it goes into "sleep mode."
(DIR) Post #AVFZdt0xFHYQXZcfb6 by numist@xoxo.zone
2023-05-02T16:37:50Z
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@ian @simon hmm, is Electron a browser? :thonking:
(DIR) Post #AVFZtmkkIES7kpceDw by rw007@mastodon.social
2023-05-02T16:34:05Z
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@simon i think thatâs âallow time sensitive notificationsâ that do that.
(DIR) Post #AVFa4JbR0s0QX3Hvs0 by ian@mckellar.social
2023-05-02T16:42:38Z
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@numist @simon If it's Electron it's not a web app. It's a desktop app that uses HTML. A Swift app that calls https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/nsattributedstring/1525953-init isn't a web app either.
(DIR) Post #AVFa89JbCj9dmem372 by numist@xoxo.zone
2023-05-02T16:40:14Z
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@ian @simon more seriously, is there even a web API for differentiating notification sounds that should be silenced by DND vs, say, audio tracks from videos that you want to hear regardless?
(DIR) Post #AVFa89y0mTTrnzgK6S by ian@mckellar.social
2023-05-02T16:43:21Z
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@numist @simon https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Notifications_APIBut presumably DND should mute sound from all background tabs?
(DIR) Post #AVFaGnvO6Rrc34ZnQe by numist@xoxo.zone
2023-05-02T16:44:51Z
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@ian @simon I feel like that behaviour would violate least surprise for web-hosted video/music/podcasts
(DIR) Post #AVFapB9aFEQDwCbiue by lolzac@home.social
2023-05-02T16:51:02Z
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@ian @numist @simon It runs in a self-contained web browser so that seems like a web app to me
(DIR) Post #AVFawLjlIHB6mywswi by lorddimwit@mastodon.social
2023-05-02T16:50:22Z
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@simon
(DIR) Post #AVFbBENKwkfeIiYVdY by lolzac@home.social
2023-05-02T16:50:27Z
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@simon @benc âAnd this is the machine that goes BING!â
(DIR) Post #AVFfN3ssB8aB3QCemW by rachel_norfolk@strangeobject.space
2023-05-02T17:39:59Z
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@simon outlook just did this to me
(DIR) Post #AVFfdatLE0zi3hJ0Jk by glyph@mastodon.social
2023-05-02T17:41:41Z
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@simon As I get ready to start using discord more (it seems to be where the real-time action is these days) after hearing @mcc complaining about this problem extensively I am seriously considering buying https://www.rogueamoeba.com/soundsource/ so I can permanently mute it before I start having this experience every day. $40 seems like a lot for a mute button though. perhaps there should be a hashtag to raise awareness, #WhyIsDiscordBeeping
(DIR) Post #AVFfdqcuirMQrNk6vw by glyph@mastodon.social
2023-05-02T17:45:03Z
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@ian @numist @simon It does not. If you think about it for a sec it would not make sense to do so, otherwise you couldn't put a music player into a browser that you listen to when you when you are working and don't want to be bothered by notifications.
(DIR) Post #AVFkwbd1D3fNcHYVSy by ian@mckellar.social
2023-05-02T18:44:29Z
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@numist @simon Or maybe don't let a background tab start playing when you're in DND?
(DIR) Post #AVFm5RzCWp3mGviEnw by ticky@octodon.social
2023-05-02T18:55:16Z
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@simon @astraluma I have been trying to convince Discord that this is an issue for like a month now (but the bug has existed much longer)
(DIR) Post #AVFpFLQQ4oB8gKqxsW by XcskiPaul@epistolary.org
2023-05-02T19:30:43Z
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@simon I canât figure out how to shut Messenger on the Facebook web version up on my iMac. Itâs the only thing I run that doesnât respect Do Not Disturb. Which is annoying because one of my D&D friends likes to throw ideas into the chat 2 hours past my bed time.
(DIR) Post #AVG1pqInx6AmJwSfrc by tpuddle@mastodonapp.uk
2023-05-02T21:51:53Z
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@simonEr, surely it is up to the OS to _enforce_ 'Do not disturb' mode, not up to every app to voluntarily abide by this?Otherwise, perhaps it should be renamed to be 'Please ask [nicely] before disturbing anyone' mode?Self evidently, you've seen how successful that is.
(DIR) Post #AVI0pxJ4CQ9sPDzgVE by simon@fedi.simonwillison.net
2023-05-03T20:50:16Z
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Thinking about this further: there is genuinely not a scenario in the world where I want my computer to make a noise to accompany a notification. That's what my phone is for.
(DIR) Post #AVI15bDG6vryW6jk7U by simon@fedi.simonwillison.net
2023-05-03T20:51:00Z
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And I don't want my phone to make noises either - I have an Apple Watch, having it vibrate is about all the notification interruption I can handle
(DIR) Post #AVI1JGLiTguJrcCxOa by film_girl@mastodon.social
2023-05-03T20:52:53Z
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@simon my least favorite thing is that I canât separate modes on devices. I might want mh phone silent but my laptop can make noise. Or vice versa. But I need apps to respect that setting
(DIR) Post #AVI1p3dxFld7iwtqy0 by thatandromeda@ohai.social
2023-05-03T21:01:17Z
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@simon Gahhh! Literally the first thing I do with a new device is turn off all the notifications that make noise (and most of the ones that don't)
(DIR) Post #AVI213uK66nM1AHQm0 by samwillis@mastodon.social
2023-05-03T21:01:36Z
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@simon I've turned off almost all notifications everywhere, only have them for iMessage+WhatsApp (except I've had to mute some school parent groups đ©) and email from a very select small group of family and colleagues.It makes life so much better.
(DIR) Post #AVI2F3TOVd0Mj0MBJA by seibert@mstdn.social
2023-05-03T21:04:34Z
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@simon The mute switch on my iPhone has been enabled so long that I forget it is there.
(DIR) Post #AVI2fCiKm37oukoV96 by mwyman@mastodon.social
2023-05-03T21:10:41Z
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@simon the only reason my phone should make a noise is for alarms Iâve set. Specifically my morning wake-up alarm.
(DIR) Post #AVI3ikuECpOfmVdNuS by JimBobBennett@hachyderm.io
2023-05-03T21:21:11Z
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@simon never use Microsoft Teams then, it has its own notification mechanism that ignores the do not disturb settings đ
(DIR) Post #AVIFFOVPbqaJMOnCim by michaelrowe01@mstdn.social
2023-05-03T23:31:28Z
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@simon me tooâŠ
(DIR) Post #AVIRJzZQwaasvIdHEG by ppatel@mstdn.social
2023-05-04T01:46:56Z
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@simon I set up do not disturb to be turned on all the time on my Windows machine and yet I get sounds from notifications from one of the aps I use. No excuse for that behavior.
(DIR) Post #AVIU6WcTZTzvEPKFaS by douglascodes@mastodon.social
2023-05-04T02:18:05Z
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@simonDear God in heaven the terminal bell being on by default freaks me out whenever I set up a new machine.
(DIR) Post #AVIZDdWanQVuRemfY0 by abalikai@theatl.social
2023-05-04T03:15:21Z
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@simon đŻ My Mac is always on do not disturb đ.
(DIR) Post #AVIyBMHwPIx7GKwQeu by whynothugo@fosstodon.org
2023-05-04T07:55:06Z
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@simon This is exactly why my desktop PC doesn't have speakers and I connect headphones only when needed.
(DIR) Post #AVIyN63EbPkmNXexo8 by whynothugo@fosstodon.org
2023-05-04T07:56:06Z
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@simon I wish applications (and websites) had to prompt for permission to use the speakers in the same way that they prompt to use a camera.
(DIR) Post #AVK5yllnLkP5JpNCvg by ramsey@phpc.social
2023-05-04T20:57:10Z
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@simon @chucker I always turn off audio notifications. However, I had thought that macOS would not allow this, as long as the app is tying into their notifications and permissions system. I guess is the app has decided to work around that system, then theyâve done something really bad, and I would uninstall it.