Post AVFVRLIoMPPih1jph2 by mar77i@gleasonator.com
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(DIR) Post #AVFLCcGK1TYhPKufkO by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-02T13:56:09.028691Z
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What distribution of resource this person would find "just" I am really wondering. Governments accrue way too much, which is extremely unjust as it is, but that's always how redistributist idiocy is "justified"."just one more social program, bro, then everything's fixed, just one more 😠"RT: https://social.uden.ai/objects/c9007ef7-ea48-4e71-8c1b-ca63b90a5064
(DIR) Post #AVFNOK6fYDHyTx6lrE by Erik@social.uden.ai
2023-05-02T14:15:53.235227Z
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No, I’m not just for social programs, we need systemic change. No private ownership. Democratizing the entire private sector!Social services aren’t supposed to help, they, at best, make the current system more bearable, like a slave owner treating his slaves nicely, they don’t fix the problem.
(DIR) Post #AVFNOKiFIVLYMUgmQa by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-02T14:20:40.405816Z
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@Erik Well, then either everyone is poor, because it's gone, or everyone is arguing over what to do with it and unable to do anything productive any more either. And if you actually managed to somehow get around the initial self destruction of such a system, you wouldn't be taking any money home from going to work. So why do anything anymore, for anybody? Friendship and harmony? But the other people only destroy and take out of the system, they shouldn't be your friends.
(DIR) Post #AVFUl1wnvoGmVCGijA by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-05-02T14:59:24.142896Z
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@mar77i @Erik Billionaires accrue way too much. Why is that never part of the discussion?Rich people are the problem. They have our money.
(DIR) Post #AVFVRLIoMPPih1jph2 by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-02T15:50:52.141121Z
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@leftout @Erik You're going to have to amass... let me check... a couple of ten thousand of them to cover the national debt. Good luck.
(DIR) Post #AVIFujxMlCpplIaDcu by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-05-02T18:53:37.285992Z
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@mar77i @Erik I’ll settle for giving their money to the people.
(DIR) Post #AVIFukkHpJy0D1THsW by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-03T23:41:02.020774Z
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@leftout @Erik Thanks for five bucks. Now how's that supposed to help, you probably ruined someone's life who provided a living and quality of life to thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people. Will they go to work knowing that if they work hard enough, they just get their stuff taken away and divvied up?
(DIR) Post #AVIGg2WVXz5WxLZgSu by hydroxxide@poa.st
2023-05-03T23:49:25.398545Z
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@leftout @mar77i @Erik just like give money to the people mannnnnn
(DIR) Post #AVIGmw4dvN6oyrpTSC by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-03T23:50:49.312362Z
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@hydroxxide @leftout @Erik ikr, why does this shit have to be complicated. stupid morals and stupid people being so different. you give two people 10 bucks, and ask is back the next week. one will just give it back, and the other promised someone else that they'd ask you for another 10.
(DIR) Post #AVISucIAYVD5OYaKnI by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T00:07:13.957217Z
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@mar77i @hydroxxide @Erik it isn't a gift. it's a refund.
(DIR) Post #AVISucrcQhZBAVAe36 by hydroxxide@poa.st
2023-05-04T00:09:46.099607Z
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@leftout @mar77i @Erik no one owes you jack shitif it wasnt for the oligarchy 95% of people would be wearing hides and eating roots and small game kek
(DIR) Post #AVISudQ0Mr4Wt9G6e8 by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T01:55:39.950928Z
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@hydroxxide @mar77i @Erik That's absolute nonsense rubbish. What's beautiful about the oligarchs is how they've convinced you it's in your best interests to defend them. They literally have taken your wealth and you're glad they did it.
(DIR) Post #AVIuKWZf8OTPx9LUPo by hydroxxide@poa.st
2023-05-04T04:34:16.724611Z
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@leftout @mar77i @Erik im a lefty and think small business owners are fascists(why: uhm, because they are) big business owners are bad toounless they sponsor our rallies with bricks, and farmers are bad too because theyre fascist racists..... what do you meanwe depend on those people to survive..... ill just plant a little garden like they did in CHAZ... i mean i dont farm but i have 5 pins on pinterest about farming....
(DIR) Post #AVIypEGJfSTJx9C2KG by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T00:05:30.664493Z
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@mar77i @Erik Rich people stole it. We should stop that from happening.
(DIR) Post #AVIypEvRCZMi0gQsQC by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T08:04:16.048710Z
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@leftout @Erik How exactly do you define "stealing" in this context?Do I steal from you if I get any value from an exchange of goods, services or metals with you?
(DIR) Post #AVJRl3j9n7jknB2yZM by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T12:21:00.987822Z
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@mar77i @Erik The main issue is rich people do not get richer off their labour. They get richer off of other people’s labour. They extract the value generated by the working class. Remember that work is where money comes from.If rich people didn’t also control politicians in the unites states through legalized bribes through lobbying and campaign donations, then laws wouldn’t continue to favour rich people extracting more and more wealth. All the money and wealth comes from the labour of people. The people are grossly underpaid so the rich can extract more and more of their wealth. It will eventually reach a point where there are too many people who can no longer sustain themselves on the small amount they are underpaid and then the shit will hit the fan. When people like you are going to feel it too. So don’t wish for this to continue. Fix it before then.What fascinates me are people who are not doing this (they work for a living), yet defend rich people doing it. They are taking from you too, but because there are people worse off than you, you think you’re not suffering it.
(DIR) Post #AVJRl4NvLYLYpc7X72 by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T13:28:27.510183Z
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@leftout @Erik > They get richer off of other people’s labour.Not because someone else did just anything. Because the other labour fits with a bigger plan there is value in another's labour. That bigger plan is called an organisation. And if you tie up many workes into an organization to produce more than nothing, it's not the individual's labour in which there is value, but the collective collaboration's. And whose should that be? The ones who are executing or the ones who are coordinating? Does coordinating labour to produce more than the individual's value have no value in itself or should it have no benefit to the coordinating?
(DIR) Post #AVJZm9eW2wjH5juSDw by mar77i@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T14:58:17.758353Z
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@leftout @Erik This guy gets it!https://liberdon.com/@rimugu/110306588584396105
(DIR) Post #AVKKQJL03IMKbXropM by leftout@gleasonator.com
2023-05-04T23:34:53.729670Z
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@mar77i @Erik It’s interesting how you’re speaking of a coordinator. That person is doing work, and should be compensated for that work. Not insanely over compensated, fairly. Even the CEO who has an active role should be compensated, but not hundreds or thousands of times the rate most employees are compensated. But I’m actually talking about the class of people above all of that. The people that extract widely disproportionate amounts of money for no work. People that sit on boards that have close that have close to zero active role in a company should not be extracting the wealth they do through stock and stock dividends and pay little in taxes.I’m pro business. I’m not pro under paying employees to make the ones at the top disproportionately richer.