Post AVEXXremzAn9WhIPBI by dragonfly@kolektiva.social
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 (DIR) Post #AVEXXqmuDVgqpa5NC4 by witchescauldron@activism.openworlds.info
       2023-04-15T16:44:59Z
       
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       @dragonfly #indymedia is a non-owned "brand" so it ticks that box and works for outreach.We need to reboot the "process" so indymedia can start to work agen, to do this we need fresh codebases, outreach and training.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVEXXremzAn9WhIPBI by dragonfly@kolektiva.social
       2023-04-15T16:46:10Z
       
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       @witchescauldron outreach yes and training yes, but who is still active? Indymedia Argentina, Greece and so many more and are they part of this process?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVEXXsYReFJMJJKqvo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-02T04:39:37Z
       
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       @dragonflyOMN folk talk a lot about what they call the "geekproblem"; people building tech Silicon Valley style ('if you build it they will come'). Not getting buy-in first from the people they expect to use it, nor involving them in the development process. Ironically, this seems to be exactly the OMN approach. Indymedia started with relationships, not tech. But I see no signs of organized outreach to other people who were involved in setting up IMC collectives (I co-founded the Aotearoa IMC).
       
 (DIR) Post #AVEYJrjzybFJgecaTQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-02T04:48:21Z
       
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       @dragonflyThe original Independent Media Center and Indymedia.org website emerged from an ongoing collaboration between a broad network of existing independent media groups, active across a bunch of different countries. They were tools that built on the reporting these groups were already doing. Just building an open publishing website and expecting a new Indymedia network to spring from it, like a genie from a lamp, is classic cargo-culting.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVJbkX9htKk3JXqzgG by dragonfly@kolektiva.social
       2023-05-04T15:20:00Z
       
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       @strypey in Portugal we still mantain an online Radio, and our hope is to recover the indymedia concept and start a new website (down since 2018)these questions are still important, i think, and indymedia in a way is still a good concepthttps://indymedia.pt
       
 (DIR) Post #AVKPx5gQL73xaDL0jo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-05T00:42:51Z
       
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       @dragonfly> indymedia in a way is still a good conceptThere's plenty to learn from the history, eg our approach to tech and organizational structure, as well and the internal politics that slowly killed the network and most IMCs. There's plenty of old indymediatistas kicking around the fediverse, and I'm sure lots of us have ideas on how new tech like the fediverse can can be used to support independent media. (1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #AVKQbg6eL50K88xTvM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-05T00:50:11Z
       
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       @dragonflyBut I'm not sure it's worth trying to resurrect Indymedia. Firstly, the name comes with baggage, and potentially big arguments about who has the right to use it and how. No thanks ;) Also, barely anyone remembers it, so it's not like it has name recognition value. Finally, it was a product of its time. A lot has changed in 20 years and we've learned a lot, including from the history of Indymedia's decline. Most of us would organize a new activist media network very differently.(2/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #AVLbpTw5g5uz5olR1E by dragonfly@kolektiva.social
       2023-05-05T14:30:38Z
       
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       @strypey thanks for engaging in this discussionyeah, it is a very good concept, especially the idea of doing journalism in a very different way than before
       
 (DIR) Post #AVNmH9KBIAEz8LmeQ4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-06T15:37:08Z
       
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       @dragonflyI do think it's worth writing more about the history of Indymedia. There used to be heaps of great stuff on Wikipedia. Some of it fell to the deletionists, but much of it could be recovered from the edit history:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IndymediaBut I'd love to have a team of radical left social anthropologists and media theorists interview indymediatistas and put it all in one place online. From as many IMCs as possible, from as many countries as possible.