Post AVBlfRJ7eUGq0PmuXI by p@raru.re
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(DIR) Post #AVBdXmnD5SniguhVXU by kaia@brotka.st
2023-04-30T19:02:47.017259Z
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i..it's my new gaming PC that runs Cyberpunk very well
(DIR) Post #AVBdd2IIsdmYDSkQcq by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:03:07.033675Z
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@kaia TPM stuff?
(DIR) Post #AVBdd2kfBCT1dQ14pU by kaia@brotka.st
2023-04-30T19:03:45.167627Z
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@chjara dunno, it wants me to install a "PC Health Check app", which I probably don't want to?
(DIR) Post #AVBdeQMAtzyj8NDjbE by VBurner@poa.st
2023-04-30T19:03:59.344153Z
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@kaia could be C drive storage or something
(DIR) Post #AVBdfHigV2TYdX9xXk by Natanox@chaos.social
2023-04-30T19:04:01Z
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@chjara @kaia Yeah, most likely "missing" TPM.
(DIR) Post #AVBdiArkRF5IFTmE1Q by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-04-30T19:04:42.736Z
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@kaia@brotka.st you forgot the ~brain scanner~ TPM module.
(DIR) Post #AVBdnSualuFdfHd7zc by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:04:30.900020Z
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@kaia if the program can tell your computer won't run w11 then it already knows why, why would you need something else 🥴
(DIR) Post #AVBdvsLu4IfOsrPnOa by kaia@brotka.st
2023-04-30T19:07:09.388582Z
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@chjara amazing right. I installed the app and it told me what you said.that's really neat. so they cannot ever force me to switch without this :akko_yay:
(DIR) Post #AVBe1bnqVkx9IKDcjg by lexd0g@wetdry.world
2023-04-30T19:08:05Z
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@kaia tiny11 :D
(DIR) Post #AVBe48Dmx2OgPxYXpY by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:08:22.311256Z
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@kaia i still don't understand why ms cares so much about TPM 2, i'm assuming DRM or something(if you don't know, TPM = trusted platform module, it's a hardware subsystem that allows doing cryptographic computations and related operations in a trusted, theoretically tamper-proof environment)
(DIR) Post #AVBe9czjxomBJ8bdmC by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-04-30T19:09:35.319203Z
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@chjara @kaia tpm shills are usually in the drm industry yes
(DIR) Post #AVBeKZBCUMnaf1BMlk by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:10:03.289841Z
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@icedquinn @kaia my only experience with TPM is i had to disable it on my computer because it was breaking linux
(DIR) Post #AVBeWYBa0fa13M4f0y by kaia@brotka.st
2023-04-30T19:13:47.724448Z
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@chjara @icedquinn apparently my mainboard has a 1 x SPI TPM header where I could put a cute TPM device. not that I want to...
(DIR) Post #AVBeWw3bFzSP5YWcuO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-04-30T19:13:28.303530Z
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@icedquinn @kaia @chjara Yeah, it's basically pro-DRM ghouls and/or Security Theatre clowns.
(DIR) Post #AVBeeafEgBCl3XmNNY by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:14:23.158784Z
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@lanodan @icedquinn @kaia my fav DRM trusted hardware thing is SGX, like every other day a new exploit comes out that destroys every single security guarantee of SGX enclaves
(DIR) Post #AVBemJ5JvG5aqrexOq by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-04-30T19:16:14.866237Z
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@chjara @icedquinn @kaia As expected of Intel.But I wish the same for AMD PSP as it's kind of the same thing.
(DIR) Post #AVBemafOYO2xNffVUO by crafti@akkoma.0x68756773.moe
2023-04-30T19:16:33.293799Z
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@kaia you're apparently not cyberpunk enough to have TPM 2.0 and a good CPU, nerd
(DIR) Post #AVBeouyrztBexlt5pw by kaia@brotka.st
2023-04-30T19:17:07.356774Z
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@crafti I love that I have no TPM module. that's pretty cool tbh. no forced update :SoraWow:
(DIR) Post #AVBetKCSAvGSKxLIPY by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:17:12.057108Z
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@lanodan @icedquinn @kaia isn't PSP analogous to ME
(DIR) Post #AVBetKu3Yo8uWBk7NI by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-04-30T19:17:52.962089Z
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@chjara @icedquinn @kaia @lanodan no
(DIR) Post #AVBetbBJ2RRp0Jw7U0 by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:17:38.804363Z
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@lanodan @icedquinn @kaia oh, nvm, it is actually like SGX, it's an ARM trustzone core
(DIR) Post #AVBevQcVHBLUpOWw40 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-04-30T19:17:52.086955Z
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@chjara @icedquinn @kaia Yup
(DIR) Post #AVBezzFaSmAVOGz88O by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-04-30T19:19:07.853900Z
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@chjara @icedquinn @kaia @lanodan some say that but it has a different purpose and different access to things iirc
(DIR) Post #AVBf3y32sJtoou16NU by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:18:28.562917Z
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@icedquinn @kaia @lanodan wait, or not? software can't run stuff on the PSP, rightso it is just like the ME
(DIR) Post #AVBf3ya0tkGqT9RQlU by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-04-30T19:19:26.124572Z
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@chjara @icedquinn @kaia I think it's sort of an in-between, IIRC ME doesn't runs on the CPU itself.
(DIR) Post #AVBf5D6EOrCRn56EXA by 6a62@raru.re
2023-04-30T19:16:21Z
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@kaia @icedquinn @chjara there’s a much better use for the TPM header anyway https://hackaday.com/2023/03/23/isa-over-tpm-to-your-pc/
(DIR) Post #AVBf7ScdeqiKVqKZqS by Relected@shitposter.club
2023-04-30T19:20:26.847666Z
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@kaia :siren: TPM SPYWARE :siren:
(DIR) Post #AVBfz8rxJaPCt55nlI by Xalef@shitposter.club
2023-04-30T19:30:10.980212Z
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@kaia W
(DIR) Post #AVBgffMEuitXoLXCvw by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:21:53.757559Z
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@charlotte @icedquinn @kaia secure key operations are the main thing
(DIR) Post #AVBgffxSgKfXfmwvx2 by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:22:24.087495Z
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@charlotte @icedquinn @kaia or something like that, i don't understand how hardware-assisted DRM is even supposed to work, (i mean it doesn't but)
(DIR) Post #AVBgfgWCbASTPXCg6K by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-04-30T19:37:46.878152Z
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@chjara @charlotte @kaia it was supposed to help ensure the drm provisions in the operating system were upheld and have even more draconian hell with remote attestations.remote attestation just never ended up working right.
(DIR) Post #AVBh46WvXUd92DBdQW by asthargf@retro.pizza
2023-04-30T19:34:50Z
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@kaia It probably just needs activating something in the BIOS menu, it happened to me.
(DIR) Post #AVBh8aefTg0Nciwk5Y by kaia@brotka.st
2023-04-30T19:43:05.025797Z
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@asthargf not something I'll activate then :aievil:
(DIR) Post #AVBh9M82yGQqrS3MuG by special-boy@poa.st
2023-04-30T19:43:14.099253Z
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@kaia @icedquinn @chjara are you sure that there isnt one inside your cpu anyways?maybe its just turned off
(DIR) Post #AVBhEveaJmS6UGvj1M by kaia@brotka.st
2023-04-30T19:44:10.256748Z
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@special-boy @icedquinn @chjara I think it's just turned off. there's something called fTPM?I have ProcessorAMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics, 3901 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)
(DIR) Post #AVBivE4iJlKxjkstSC by special-boy@poa.st
2023-04-30T20:03:05.428624Z
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@kaia @icedquinn @chjara Yeah, all AMD CPUs since zen 1 have it.
(DIR) Post #AVBlHZsk7XNDeJ4Sa8 by ignaloidas@not.acu.lt
2023-04-30T20:29:29.853Z
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@chjara@snowdin.town @kaia@brotka.st not reallythe most TPM can do is to verify what booted, and keep some secrets tied to that.but you can definitely tamper with the environment after it stops measuring, though the problem is that you need to pwn the windows kernel without using custom kernel drivers for it to be any useful, and that's a bit hard to do.
(DIR) Post #AVBlenMy8la28lHPyi by chjara@snowdin.town
2023-04-30T19:21:29.317148Z
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@icedquinn @kaia @lanodan apparently AMD is developing something called SEV that's directly like SGX tho
(DIR) Post #AVBleo9BFW92YHpv7o by ignaloidas@not.acu.lt
2023-04-30T20:33:38.836Z
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@chjara@snowdin.town @icedquinn@blob.cat @kaia@brotka.st @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me not quite, SEV is just for VM's, and is for protecting against hypervisor attacks, while SGX tries to do the same, but for any program in general, which is dumb.
(DIR) Post #AVBlfRJ7eUGq0PmuXI by p@raru.re
2023-04-30T20:33:51Z
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bindows@kaia
(DIR) Post #AVBmN799yDLcDhxByK by ignaloidas@not.acu.lt
2023-04-30T20:41:42.187Z
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@chjara@snowdin.town @charlotte@akko.chir.rs @icedquinn@blob.cat @kaia@brotka.st the HDCP way (which is for what it's worth, the current best way, event though it has a bunch of attacks) is to decrypt the content, do whatever you want to do, and re-encrypt the content inline, so all outputs are encrypted, theoretically right until the display stage, with some secure handshakes in between. But of course there's a bunch of chinesium chips that don't really bother with re-encrypting, so you can just capture their output.
(DIR) Post #AVBta5nkyxo5UY4udk by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2023-04-30T22:02:27.670783Z
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There's registry entries that bypass some of the checks, but you can go one step further and use rufus to build install media that'll run on pretty much anything.
(DIR) Post #AVDnpk2dRUUhEF2Ir2 by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2023-05-01T20:07:27.712383Z
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@kaia You don't have the necessary hardware backdoors for it to work.