Post AVAtJZobwbiiUrdtaK by post@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #AV5N8RZ46ySlOmDdfU by post@qoto.org
2023-04-27T18:30:40Z
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Thanks to everyone that voted:https://qoto.org/@post/110207911042352184Now #Logseq is even going to have ChatGPT in the sidebar and conversation saved in /chats in your graph folder.Logseq has made a fool of us privacy-conscious people.I will no longer support it financially and I won’t recommend it anymore.If someone will maintain a patched version that is fully FOSS and without built-in OpenAI services (kinda like Bromite with Chrome) on both FlatHub and F-droid repos can have 5$/month from me and hopefully from other privacy-conscious #PKM enthusiasts.
(DIR) Post #AV5w8WuNjwnaMrxxvE by ednico@pkm.social
2023-04-28T01:02:50Z
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@post hey, where did you see the chatgpt in the side bar info? Or was it GitHub?
(DIR) Post #AV5xkmYg6OsNrbcP5c by ednico@pkm.social
2023-04-28T01:20:57Z
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@post I see what you mean #logseq
(DIR) Post #AV5zbpUk0z1yGzdTlI by nhan@pkm.social
2023-04-28T01:41:44Z
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@post If #Logseq allows you to opt-out of the AI integration with a toggle, would that meet your privacy requirements?
(DIR) Post #AV6VZnKaHnExW3xUEC by post@qoto.org
2023-04-28T07:39:58Z
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@nhanNo, PKM + ChatGPT is too big of a threat for people in general. Logseq would send big chunks of personal information to a company that can do whatever they want with that information, even providing it to other users.In Italy the court that is responsible to protect people privacy blocked ChatGPT for their blatant violation of privacy laws and in theory other European countries should do the same because of the GDPR.People are not aware that what they write to ChatGPT is to be considered public and associated to their profile like in a social media platform. And it is way worse than Twitter, Facebook, Google etc that at least have GDPR-compliant privacy policies.
(DIR) Post #AV6m7jhFu48TMBlkZM by nhan@pkm.social
2023-04-28T10:45:21Z
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@post Understood. I also know that Germany is considering to follow Italy for the ban. However, it's fine for me for a company to provide the AI integration as long as my data is safe if I keep the feature off. The AI integration is appealing to a portion of users, and the users should educate themselves on privacy issues of OpenAI. #Logseq should not be the gatekeeper here. I think it's similar to the community plugins, and users are responsible to assess their own risk tolerance.
(DIR) Post #AV6pNS8zEPAFPivU3s by post@qoto.org
2023-04-28T11:21:48Z
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@nhanUsers should educate themselves on privacy? No, this is not like using Google or Facebook, this is on a totally different level: OpenAI is officially criminal in Italy.When a person uses a service it is assumed to be private by default and if something is shared you are supposed to accept a (ideally clear) privacy policy. Is this the case with OpenAI? No. Will it be the case with Logseq? I fear not.I just can’t accept this hypocritical attitude of giving away responsibilities by fooling people into agreements: the basis of individual sovereignty and freedom is the informed consent.Also here the major issue is Logseq cheating on its users. I sponsored a project whose tagline started with “A privacy-first, open-source platform…” and I discovered later that it is not fully FOSS (and the closed source module is even the most important one: the one responsible for e2e encryption!) and that it using those money to integrate the biggest threat to privacy ever!
(DIR) Post #AV6phia1pd5YBJEoaW by nhan@pkm.social
2023-04-28T10:49:02Z
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@post In this sense #SiYuan would also not cut it for you. They have had ChatGPT integration for a while (It's not on by default. You have to go through a few steps to set it up (obviously it needs an API key).
(DIR) Post #AV6phjGZHT7GJF8mtU by post@qoto.org
2023-04-28T11:25:26Z
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@nhanThank you for letting me know.
(DIR) Post #AVAt8mIZBxa01kVMG0 by railz@pkm.social
2023-04-30T10:22:19Z
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@post A bit surprising. Don't developers involve forum moderators in their schedule at all with regards to community participation and desired features?
(DIR) Post #AVAtJZobwbiiUrdtaK by post@qoto.org
2023-04-30T10:24:44Z
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@railzYes but they are totally ignoring the feedback, here there are the details:https://qoto.org/@post/110207993117178725
(DIR) Post #AVEz4RDwysaLrgV0BE by railz@pkm.social
2023-05-02T09:48:05Z
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@post I already had read that post, Alex. But question was more specific: Neglecting random dudes on the internet is a different thing from ignoring mediation staff actively trying to communicate features, in case developers don't have time to look at the voting system. They really should work on their communication, if neither gets attention.
(DIR) Post #AVF0SRAmvEEkbw1lWC by post@qoto.org
2023-05-02T10:03:36Z
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@railzI’m not sure if you are replying to me but just in case when I said “they ignore feedback” I was of course not referring to posts here but to the Feature Requests category that they setup with votes.