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(DIR) Post #AV83VpssRW6bsMF5to by leo@twit.social
2023-04-29T01:34:54Z
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Having spent a little time on Bluesky (leolaporte.me) I'm here to report that I'm sticking with Mastodon. Too many people want Bluesky to replicate Twitter - and the outrage machine is already spinning up. The ATProtocol is interesting - but I'm not sure it's significantly better than ActivityPub. The homegrown feel here just feels better to me. More small town than big city. But I'll keep an eye on Bluesky. I'm not writing it off yet.
(DIR) Post #AV83ftMAO4i5XbjmXw by krakalak@twit.social
2023-04-29T01:36:43Z
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@leo I appreciate your take on it. I put in a request for an invite months ago.... Still waiting. But, like you I want to try it out.
(DIR) Post #AV83nTRkbURVV1xsVE by Perrin49@coales.co
2023-04-29T01:38:04Z
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@leo I think if the smooth out things like onboarding, and how the timelines work (that isn't difficult, just different) then acceptance will grow.
(DIR) Post #AV83rT0iAQAfIzDmmu by Lightrider@mastodon.acm.org
2023-04-29T01:38:49Z
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@leo never trust money hungry tech bros
(DIR) Post #AV83u7rtEK9ebPMZRg by Adam@social.lein.us
2023-04-29T01:39:20Z
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@leo Sounds like it's not even really decentralized either as it requires connection to an identity server. https://notnow.dev/objects/e96d0d31-6d21-4ad6-a069-2504864cf6f0
(DIR) Post #AV83xxOi6MEHHpXd0S by Woodswalked@mstdn.party
2023-04-29T01:39:59Z
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@leo I am keeping an eye on Spoutable. Sticking with Mastodon, but it’s the only other one that holds any potential in my eyes.Fediverse decentralization is a selling point to me. We’ll have to reevaluate how well each of these hold up when being deliberately targeted.
(DIR) Post #AV84RYIRzUXy7nj2Vk by trusttrist@mstdn.ca
2023-04-29T01:45:19Z
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@leo So far I don’t like it.
(DIR) Post #AV864cgtgdFX09M2YS by theotherlinh@hachyderm.io
2023-04-29T02:03:35Z
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@leo I think it’s data portability model is the biggest draw. But mostly agree with @mmasnick https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/28/six-months-in-thoughts-on-the-current-post-twitter-diaspora-options/Though, it all makes me want to make micro.blog work for me….
(DIR) Post #AV86aoGKCRyy9kH0Fc by thrilway@libretooth.gr
2023-04-29T02:09:25Z
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@leoI suspected as much—the same folks that bailed on Mastodon because it wasn't exactly like Twitter are all rushing to bluesky
(DIR) Post #AV87DdJkpFvHVPOEGu by GabeMoralesVR@mastodon.gamedev.place
2023-04-29T02:16:26Z
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@leo serial sexual harasser is upset about "outrage ,machine," news at 10.Go back to nowhere, leo.
(DIR) Post #AV87RmqiBUNr7aYQts by TheChrisGlass@worldkey.io
2023-04-29T02:18:57Z
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@leo I haven't gotten in yet, but that seems to match my feelings. It's has some inherent design flaws (no blocking) but the real test is how it evolves as it grows.
(DIR) Post #AV89YAvrkxsVSZ8hH6 by rom@social.lol
2023-04-29T02:42:30Z
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@leo Same - not writing it off just yet. They're working on adding federation and blocking. I am hoping that once federation is live, they can release the server side software for self-hosting.People are quick to dismiss - but it is still BETA.
(DIR) Post #AV8ApdrHYykU37t6fY by jerrygulla@mastodon.social
2023-04-29T02:56:54Z
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@leo Ummm… Also this
(DIR) Post #AV8G5LyyIDox0onOHg by 42DZS@twit.social
2023-04-29T03:55:44Z
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@leoSo speaketh the #Chief so shall it be. 8-)I have barely learned #mastodon. I will hold off on the others for a while.
(DIR) Post #AV8HsCjhYiQGTlVkC8 by amity@chaosfem.tw
2023-04-29T04:15:49Z
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@leo well, if mastodon is chief twit approved then it's good enough for me! glad to see you, Leo.
(DIR) Post #AV8NzidvvYvHBlmNzE by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2023-04-29T05:24:21Z
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@leo No publicly traded corporation is capable of being trustworthy. We have learned our lesson. If one becomes the only choice I will easily choose none of them.I'm not ignoring that lesson.
(DIR) Post #AV8OqzIAl16KAm098i by imnotafeline@mastodon.online
2023-04-29T05:34:02Z
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@leo I see.more authentic interesting content and less produced media content. I dig it.
(DIR) Post #AV8Pg5XzGE7aLDlVcO by olavf@spacey.space
2023-04-29T05:43:15Z
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@leo I'm also curious to see how it'll be monetized. I mean if Jack is actually altruistic and doesn't want his $15M+ investment back it still will have to pay for itself.
(DIR) Post #AV8YxandDYf3mMVKGe by shacker@zirk.us
2023-04-29T07:27:16Z
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@leo I'm having trouble even understanding why people are interested in BlueSky. If they're looking for a Twitter alternative that's not subject to corporate takeover, *we're right here* and rocking. What is the appeal at this point? Hasn't the fediverse already solved this?
(DIR) Post #AV8eL9OXG7sJVOontQ by danvanmoll@twit.social
2023-04-29T08:27:33Z
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@leo Couldn’t agree more. I’m on BlueSky as @danvanmoll.com (used my domain as handle by adding a TXT to my domain settings which is a pretty cool feature). While BlueSky’s UI looks neat and clean and has a pretty slick iOS app it’s the culture on this platform that disturbed me within the very first few minutes/ the same bragging, memes and „cool food speak“ you’ll find on Twitter. Thanks but no thanks.
(DIR) Post #AV8oSBs9Rd0Il5fOOe by MissingThePt@mastodon.social
2023-04-29T10:20:50Z
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@leo https://mastodon.social/@MissingThePt/110278102026658508
(DIR) Post #AV8q6zOQqaYBsimf0S by futurebird@sauropods.win
2023-04-29T10:39:24Z
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@leo "Too many people want Bluesky to replicate Twitter - and the outrage machine is already spinning up. "Kinda makes me want to go there TBH. Well maybe they will federate.
(DIR) Post #AV8zn6XnY6n5oIK0jQ by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-04-29T12:27:56Z
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@shacker @leo BlueSky has a 3 member board & a CEO who is part of the dev team. BIPOC had a terrible experience coming to Mastodon at the start of the great exodus. BlueSky has been welcoming and black women especially has contributed to tremendous growth. It’s being built out in public and I think that’s unique
(DIR) Post #AV91NreDzp6wHLQ6Km by Setok@attractive.space
2023-04-29T12:45:45Z
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@shacker @leo #BlueSky does claim to have proper identity migration, which is interesting. I also wonder if they have solved the very real problems in #Mastodon due to the federation model: visible in post reply view (many/most replies are not seen) and profile view (most posts not shown).
(DIR) Post #AV96e74UuzekWEHBzs by Makyris@friendsofdesoto.social
2023-04-29T13:44:40Z
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@leo I'm glad to hear that!
(DIR) Post #AV9JGrULzK10vtc5x2 by shacker@zirk.us
2023-04-29T16:06:13Z
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@Setok @leo Good points - there are advantages then. Thanks for outlining those.
(DIR) Post #AV9Jmwp1h5NejzaBoe by shacker@zirk.us
2023-04-29T16:11:59Z
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@damonoutlaw Thank you. I’m trying to learn more about what problems BIPOC have had in migrating to mastodon, and how BlueSky is different in that regard, but not coming up with much in the way of specifics. Any insights there?
(DIR) Post #AV9KC3nQtuFRbvoOzw by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-04-29T16:16:33Z
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@shacker Regarding your first point there are others that have made organised Toots much better than I can briefly explain. It was primarily the integrating that we problematic, being silenced & fediplaned as opposed to being heard. BlueSky is currently a single instance with an accessible dev team. That’s one difference. Bsky has built in contend moderation for users to make their own selections. There’s also the current invite system (which won’t be going away for bsky’s instance)
(DIR) Post #AV9KI26M7BES5lVjrU by damonoutlaw@moth.social
2023-04-29T16:17:37Z
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@shacker down the line there will be custom algorithms that users can choose from and even build. If that’s not enough account portability will be very smooth so that users can simply migrate to another instance that suits there needs without much if any hassle.
(DIR) Post #AV9NX4PS7EOlSMIz44 by Piousunyn@universeodon.com
2023-04-29T16:53:54Z
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@leo All this time I wasbunder the impression #bluesky was #Twitter? Why do people need to spend so much time and space posting about Twitter and Bluesky on Mastodon is beyond me? Isbit a bot thing?
(DIR) Post #AV9S7Bl8fNGoUcvWwS by atatassault@universeodon.com
2023-04-29T17:45:17Z
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@leo They really named their protocol ATP? Their ego seems to be quite large.
(DIR) Post #AV9U9Az2imYGZgVQYK by menelion@dragonscave.space
2023-04-29T18:08:00Z
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@leo does it have an API to build third-party clients?
(DIR) Post #AVA9ydsf8e1V5RBI36 by shacker@zirk.us
2023-04-30T01:56:46Z
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@damonoutlaw It might actually be the lack of algorithms here that leads to some people feeling "not seen." It takes more work to build an audience in the Fediverse, that's for sure. I actually like this idea that in BlueSky there can be custom algorithms so you can control how things are boosted - that makes a lot of sense to me. And if Bluesky has solved the migration problem, that's huge - the lack of it here is a true sore spot.
(DIR) Post #AVAEisPhpxX3IUwGB6 by osolopez@mastodon.social
2023-04-30T02:49:52Z
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@leo good to know. Thanks Leo! What do you think about Spoutible?
(DIR) Post #AVAi57OjhgDqoPRWMq by evanengel@mastodon.social
2023-04-30T08:18:52Z
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@leo I've been trying Bluesky, and so far the biggest observable difference is that it's very very horny
(DIR) Post #AVE1QlS0SrvRiZt5NY by craigmaciolek@mstdn.plus
2023-05-01T22:39:50Z
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@leo To me, Twitter will always be the New Years Eve at Times Square in 1984 social network, and people will always go because they want to see the carnage. Like wanting to see crashes in a car race. Nothing will completely replace it in any way that isn't exactly the same. The best other social networks can do is compliment it by creating a backyard patio social network so people can have both.
(DIR) Post #AWlsSPs6TLkDWfbhRY by wizdude@mastodon.au
2023-06-17T04:31:29Z
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@leo the great thing about activitypub is that users can be part of mastodon without being on mastodon. I had a friend of mine move to another service but we can still communicate.