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(DIR) Post #AUwIK4nWKsIg4P4JPs by ch0ccyra1n@emeraldsocial.org
2023-04-22T07:03:26Z
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@fediverse What type of social media do you feel is lacking most in the fediverse?To elaborate, there are a lot of different types of social media already on the fediverse such as microblogs, regular blogs, image sharing, link sharing and video sharing.Personally, I'd love to see a gaming-focused social media platform on the fediverse.
(DIR) Post #AUwIK5a5QJ9GV1n67E by carl@heath.social
2023-04-22T07:15:00Z
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@ch0ccyra1n @fediverse Perhaps it already exists in some way, but I would like it if for example public or official web pages could easily connect their RSS update functionality to the Fediverse, so that I can follow a web page of for example my municipality, and also comment and engage in the Fediverse in relationship to public institutions.
(DIR) Post #AUwIdszhvjhlFoDNtw by post@qoto.org
2023-04-23T09:27:56Z
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@carl @ch0ccyra1n @fediverseEven better if Fediverse servers could treat any RSS/Atom feed as a “degraded” ActivityPub actor and let users subscribe, boosts and comment posts. We would have de facto a comment platform for everything that has a RSS/Atom feed.
(DIR) Post #AUwJFNM40sT488Y3Oq by carl@heath.social
2023-04-23T09:34:43Z
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@post @ch0ccyra1n @fediverse That would be quite a thing!
(DIR) Post #AUwK8Bs8PJ9aRbge9I by me@t.joeldebruijn.nl
2023-04-23T09:42:22.996524Z
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@post @carl @ch0ccyra1n @fediverse Think we should call it "entry-level" actor or something like that tho. 😁Degraded sounds it once where top-level but now its wearing off or something.
(DIR) Post #AUwK8CcDdy16kXFRyq by post@qoto.org
2023-04-23T09:44:36Z
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@me @ch0ccyra1n @carl @fediverseYes, mine was a reference to the concept of graceful degradation:https://www.w3.org/wiki/Graceful_degradation_versus_progressive_enhancement
(DIR) Post #AUwKQtknziXhknBAm0 by sexy_peach@feddit.de
2023-04-23T09:42:49.508712+00:00
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You can't boost, comment and vote on a RSS post, since AP sends those activities to the origin server.But subscribing could work, Lemmy would implement a RSS reader basically.
(DIR) Post #AUwKQuOVc6Iljvkseu by post@qoto.org
2023-04-23T09:47:59Z
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@sexy_peachisn’t the origin server messaged just to provide counters and notifications to OP?
(DIR) Post #AUwLQGll2RAWnbtA1Y by post@qoto.org
2023-04-23T09:58:30Z
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@me @carl @fediverseA good metaphor to be used for UI/UX could be Fediverse users as friends in a room commenting TV shows/news that are RSS/Atom feeds: friends can hear each others’ comments but TV is just a one-way communication medium.
(DIR) Post #AUwLjl5MY0ciKELsIK by carl@heath.social
2023-04-23T10:02:36Z
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@post @me @fediverse That was indeed a good metaphor. I think that kind of interaction in the Fediverse would be very interesting to see. Cultural institutions, civic environments, public actors and so forth being able to use their ordinary web to tell of their activities, but where the choice to engage is on the receiving end.
(DIR) Post #AUwMXoD7CdZaUqqNgO by post@qoto.org
2023-04-23T10:11:39Z
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@carl @me @fediverseAnd we wouldn’t have comments split across multiple unofficial RSS->Fediverse bots as it is now.Bots connecting different platforms are a waste of energy (and therefore have an environmental impact) when we can instead have open protocols.
(DIR) Post #AUwMap7aGzGEBqh6WW by carl@heath.social
2023-04-23T10:12:10Z
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@post @me @fediverse Good point too!
(DIR) Post #AUwcwEON6ulnuimCJs by harald@hub.volse.no
2023-04-23T13:15:11Z
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@Post Some fediverse servers do. Apart from commenting. As RSS/Atom is one way feeds, there's nowhere to route the comments. If you reshare, the reshare can of course have comments.
(DIR) Post #AUwdbtwjWA1sfHibzM by post@qoto.org
2023-04-23T13:22:53Z
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@haraldHubzilla? After the reshare other Fediverse instances like Mastodon can interact too?
(DIR) Post #AUwnqwThO0YIOzwsZk by harald@hub.volse.no
2023-04-23T15:17:31Z
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@Post Yes, and also Friendica. Not sure about others, but would be surprised if there aren't any.
(DIR) Post #AV8pUeh1MU32g2CRTE by jakob@soc.schuerz.at
2023-04-29T10:32:29Z
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@postYou are looking for #Friendica@ch0ccyra1n @carl
(DIR) Post #AV8wr3ApiqsoeXlnPM by post@qoto.org
2023-04-29T11:54:20Z
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@jakobI don’t want a RSS/Atom reader integrated in my Fediverse instance. I want to be able to share/comment/like posts from a RSS/Atom feed and other Fediverse users to see them like with any other ActivityPub actor but that is publish-only.For example to have a shared comment section for every RSS/Atom feed from the Internet.
(DIR) Post #AV8xXeb2yY5UsdLWQi by jakob@soc.schuerz.at
2023-04-29T12:02:40Z
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@postYou don't want a feed-reader in you mastodon, but you want to share/like/comment on rss-feed-postings...Maybe i don't understand, what you really want...
(DIR) Post #AV8xwrQ6R32ZtJFLs0 by post@qoto.org
2023-04-29T12:07:18Z
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@jakobThe same result of using ActivityPub plugin for WordPress but without it because all it does is publishing articles as an AP actor and we can share/comment/like them.I don’t see why we can’t stop requiring a website to be a publish-only AP actor and just look at its RSS/Atom feed.
(DIR) Post #AV8ytnK5JNMyGmX8nA by jakob@soc.schuerz.at
2023-04-29T12:17:50Z
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@postYou don't want rss from a website, but native activitypub-actors. Did i get you?
(DIR) Post #AV90dOOKRFYWDkpE4e by post@qoto.org
2023-04-29T12:37:20Z
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@jakobThe Web is full of RSS/Atom feeds that will never turn into AP actors so I am saying that there should be a standard way to treat RSS/Atom feeds as publish-only AP actors.You can tell this is properly implemented if you can see all the comments from other instances (known to yours) together under the same article from a feed.
(DIR) Post #AV91e9dmrmswiSz0sK by jakob@soc.schuerz.at
2023-04-29T12:41:31Z
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@postSo...as i said... you are looking for friendica.😉This is originally a rss-feed@arminwolf
(DIR) Post #AV91eAH8VUMQgVORCy by post@qoto.org
2023-04-29T12:48:44Z
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@jakobIt would if it was @arminwolf@arminwolf.at without the need of another server (soc.schuerz.at).What Friendica is doing is having RSS->AP bots as a built-in feature. It suffers of the same problem of bots: there can be multiple unofficial bots and each of them depend on a third-party service (other that my instance and the feed i.e. the Friendica instance or the instance of the bot).
(DIR) Post #AV92EzoONCTswlVjVI by post@qoto.org
2023-04-29T12:55:21Z
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@jakobFor example this is the WordPress site from the AcrivityPub plugin author: @pfefferleNo other server involved, but it needs to “speak” AP.I am suggesting the same experience for the end user but behind the scene the Fediverse instances are reading the RSS feed of website and then presenting them as AP actors that only publish. If this will be made in a standard way, we would see each other’s interactions on feeds.
(DIR) Post #AV92xHrWcgc1fg60cy by jakob@soc.schuerz.at
2023-04-29T13:03:16Z
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@postTjo... that is distributed fediverse...
(DIR) Post #AV95caj3ascBxLxSqW by post@qoto.org
2023-04-29T13:33:17Z
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@jakob?The Fediverse is… federated i.e. decentralized but not distributed and it is based on Web domains (DNS) anyway, so it is only natural to use the original website as the source of information instead of mirror that same information using multiple bots just because RSS/Atom and AP uses different formats.
(DIR) Post #AV9BovWYguONf4NS9w by jakob@soc.schuerz.at
2023-04-29T14:42:40Z
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@postIf People want their Blogs in Fediverse, the peopke have to bring them to fediverse...There are so many different webservices out there, all the devs have to develop AP-extensions additionally to their solutions.Yes... it would be nice...Until the world reached this point, i will use friendica ☺️
(DIR) Post #AV9MRNvaXBJuIe3sxs by jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
2023-04-29T16:41:16Z
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@Post @Carl Heath @ch0ccyra1n :ins: :she_her: :vim: :trans: :lesb: :polyam: @Fediverse RSS and Atom only work in one direction. You cannot subscribe to a blog or a news site via RSS and Atom and then send comments. There is no back channel, full stop.If this was possible, you could be absolutely certain that at least #Friendica and #Hubzilla would have had this very feature implemented since long before Mastodon was even launched. But they don't, although they federate with just about everything that moves otherwise.
(DIR) Post #AV9NuKcQ15a6O9ShTU by carl@heath.social
2023-04-29T16:45:54Z
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@jupiter_rowland @fediverse I see, and realize the complexity. Given this, it would be awesome with that kind of connection, some kind of tool that could take any web page and make a two way connection in the style of RSS. Something easy to install or connect to a web, and provide interaction.
(DIR) Post #AV9NuLHXYCTURghXZQ by post@qoto.org
2023-04-29T16:58:08Z
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@carl @jupiter_rowlandMatrix.org powers a federated annotation platform for the Web:https://github.com/DanilaFe/matrix-highlight