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(DIR) Post #AV6kW2nEM5Gzco1kFE by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-04-28T10:27:11Z
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What kind of power consumption tests would you like to see across #Windows and various #Linux distros? Some ideas I have so far: 1: Proprietary vs #FOSS: Outlook vs Thunderbird, MS Word vs @libreoffice Writer, etc. (Have more pairs to suggest?) 2: Power savings when #gaming at native 4K versus using AMD FSR. 3: Idle/Load power usage of KDE, GNOME, Xfce, MATE, etc. 4: Power usage across various form factors (Tower/Desktop PC vs Laptop vs #SteamDeck) YOUR IDEAS HERE 👇
(DIR) Post #AV6kjVNvMYAm47bpE8 by AdamBishop@floss.social
2023-04-28T10:29:33Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice I have Spotify on, and it's burning a hole through my desk ... 😬
(DIR) Post #AV6kxerKvxnXVJ7CKW by mschfr@mastodon.social
2023-04-28T10:32:10Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice Try to compare sleep state power consumption between different OS. Compare idle consumption.
(DIR) Post #AV6lwi5jWzILC1xdlA by teivel@mas.to
2023-04-28T10:43:14Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice Wayland vs X11 is interesting, also running Firefox under Wayland vs XWayland.This might need to be done for both GNOME and KDE.I'm also interested in the power characteristics of window manages, but those seem too niche to ask you to spend your time on them.
(DIR) Post #AV6mV61t2L0zHUYflA by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-04-28T10:49:26Z
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@mschfr Excellent idea!
(DIR) Post #AV6mgXuJjApUvcTeXA by timapple@social.lol
2023-04-28T10:51:29Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice I feel Windows will do better than Linux. In general apps seem to run more efficiently on it. Maybe because it's usually the original target. It would be nice on the other hand to see Linux smoke it.
(DIR) Post #AV6n0A9xjLs14H9Jk8 by peotr26@fosstodon.org
2023-04-28T10:55:01Z
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You could test eco-friendly certified software like Okular.
(DIR) Post #AV6o4nfgruokiwlUDw by sirmikester@mastodon.social
2023-04-28T11:07:03Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice run some cross platform games on both, including Minecraft, Valheim and Counterstrike
(DIR) Post #AV6pZfQBgxig4HnPTE by toad@mastodon.uno
2023-04-28T11:23:51Z
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@killyourfm I don't know if it's useful, but I would like to know if the power consumption while watching a 4k/HD/SD streaming movie. 4K is a great bandwidth consuming (not eco friendly), I'm curious if it has also an impact on POWER consumption
(DIR) Post #AV6qUf9NNA73jX6suO by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-04-28T11:34:11Z
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@toad Mmm, great suggestion. Consider that your CPU needs to work harder to decode content at higher resolutions, and I bet it does make a somewhat significant difference. It's added to the list.
(DIR) Post #AV6w5aIGtKV39lhCTI by NO_PULSE_XBL@mastodon.world
2023-04-28T12:36:50Z
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@killyourfm #4. Boot up with nothing running, and just idle for a few minutes across each OS?
(DIR) Post #AV6x0DWAFCmt1aCN4i by baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org
2023-04-28T12:47:04Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice I think we should collect all these ideas and then figure out a way to automate the testing under very specific conditions. What I mean is that we should probably try to change one variable at a time, we could probably come out with some sort of benchmark performing some sort of standardized test, ideally
(DIR) Post #AV6xI5wj8MOCkp9EJ6 by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-04-28T12:50:21Z
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@baldpolnareffart Automating is way beyond my skillset. Is that something you can do?
(DIR) Post #AV6yLfVhSoiTsRm3gO by baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org
2023-04-28T13:02:05Z
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@killyourfm Not really, at least in a reasonable amount of time. I wonder if someone like @phoronix could do something similar, it would be interesting. Then we could easily collect more data in a standardized way and do a better quality analysis
(DIR) Post #AV6yV9CuQ944aRVM1o by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-04-28T13:03:56Z
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@baldpolnareffart @phoronix I'm not POSITIVE, but I think Phoronix Test Suite relies on the sys.power system sensor being available. I have two systems right in front of me where it's not. You can find our your system's sensors by running: $ phoronix-test-suite system-sensors
(DIR) Post #AV6ytZB9VhFg5QKKUC by aghost_7@mastodon.social
2023-04-28T13:08:20Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice The overhead of using docker is much higher outside of linux.
(DIR) Post #AV6yvJSwtxevvtU4Dg by baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org
2023-04-28T13:08:40Z
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@killyourfm @phoronix Do you have a machine that you could exclusively dedicate to testing? I would focus on a single device first, isolating variables would be way harder if we started randomly collecting data from different machines. Oh, another idea to add to the notes, running a test (any, once we define something), both on an SSD and a hard drive, those spinning disks should be more power hungry if I'm not mistaken
(DIR) Post #AV6z8pvHXSFQMRBWj2 by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-04-28T13:11:03Z
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@baldpolnareffart @phoronix I have two devices that would be ideal candidates: one is a Thelio, and the other is a 17" laptop with a dedicated Nvidia GPU. (The other laptops I have just don't pack a good gaming punch, and personally that's something I want to test extensively). I'll look into their sensor capabilities this weekend. PS: sys.power availability makes this possible -> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/05/06/benchmarked-the-most-power-efficient-ubuntu-19-04-flavor-will-surprise-you/?sh=2cbcf426e341
(DIR) Post #AV6zRkDYyTFkAWkfw0 by baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org
2023-04-28T13:14:24Z
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@killyourfm @phoronix Very cool! Alright, I would probably start with the Thelio. Just send me an email with all the notes and let's try to figure something out!
(DIR) Post #AV72AOXyamLztiicPQ by cpy@mastodon.social
2023-04-28T13:44:46Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice I'd be interested in WSL vs Linux - how much energy and Performance am I giving up as a Developer by sticking to Windows?
(DIR) Post #AV7ULYEDjcmBpGaOky by posiris@hachyderm.io
2023-04-28T19:00:36Z
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@killyourfm @libreoffice perhaps Davinci vs Kdenlive? Idr if Davinci is still a pain to get GPU acceleration on Linux.
(DIR) Post #AV7s32CyRaYgCkhrm4 by portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza
2023-04-28T23:26:17Z
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@killyourfmXorg (no effects) vs xorg (with effects) vs Wayland
(DIR) Post #AV7sULDtr4FYztA0lU by portaloffreedom@social.linux.pizza
2023-04-28T23:31:12Z
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@killyourfmVideo hardware decoders/encoders across different graphic cards (and different codecs maybe too?)
(DIR) Post #AVN87ZfUUmqBm6d9vc by jynersolives@mastodon.social
2023-05-06T08:07:03Z
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@killyourfm I was just coming back to this and wondered how the SteamDeck compared to the others? Can I game the whole day in good conscience? 😉
(DIR) Post #AVNMORw3ti8W4cK3Vo by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-05-06T10:46:52Z
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@jynersolives I haven't had time to do much testing for various reasons. But I promise to get around to it.