Post AV2uWoAASNc9Rvv2x6 by graf@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #AV2iCTrv0BtdGYvLP6 by Dr_Barlos@poa.st
       2023-04-26T11:34:45.864788Z
       
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       @graf please help Mr.Goldstriker I want to see my fishes
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2uWoAASNc9Rvv2x6 by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:00:42.255211Z
       
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       @Dr_Barlos no
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2ufGYOmgLfopHnTE by VBurner@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:02:16.123439Z
       
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       @graf @Dr_Barlos lmao so did he just waste a bunch of your time and get a bunch of free advice/information in the end?
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2ug9YIIlweOQezRY by matty@nicecrew.digital
       2023-04-26T14:02:24.754496Z
       
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       I don't know why he'd ever think using Google services for this is a good idea. You know their AUP is going to be absolutely retarded.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2uieVUBSnSybXR5M by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:02:51.853817Z
       
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       @VBurner @Dr_Barlos he didn't use any of it as apparently it was not his call to make
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2um0opgVrX2qBp7Q by VBurner@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:03:29.249903Z
       
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       @graf @Dr_Barlos by he I meant the website guy, sorry, that wasn't clear.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2uni4OMdhJTVHERs by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:03:46.701011Z
       
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       @VBurner @Dr_Barlos yeah he didn't learn anything from the call or subsequent messaging
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2upp6jAYP5sgNRmC by VBurner@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:04:10.503627Z
       
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       @graf @Dr_Barlos is he super young or something?
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2ut77qdQVsdETDqS by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:04:45.229992Z
       
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       @VBurner @Dr_Barlos no idea what age he is. mid to late 20s at the very least
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2uxQXcOEm20Ta4a8 by BasedLord@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:05:33.196839Z
       
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       @graf @VBurner @Dr_Barlos What a massive L for him
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2v0LjwhHBJz7jyQS by VBurner@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:06:04.488152Z
       
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       @graf @Dr_Barlos ah okay. Ignoring advice from somebody more experienced seems like a very beginning of career mistake.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2v88zvxJxcmZw3u4 by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:07:28.135687Z
       
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       @BasedLord @VBurner @Dr_Barlos it wasn't his call to make. he was excited to work together and eager to start but they went a different route. I honestly think it's because these providers like google firebase and CloudFlare stream don't charge upfront. I don't think he has the money to put up upfront and that's why they went this route. there's really no other reason to willingly pay dozens of times more money for the same experience. not my issue and I don't care much as I just wanted to help but it's pretty dumb
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2vf3u9uf4GXhvllQ by VBurner@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:13:26.097178Z
       
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       @graf @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos Are they just gonna burn all their money? You said it would cost around 300 an hour IIRC, and I don't think they'll make that much in donations every hour.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2vxo2r6SSqrAw7e4 by Heil_Honkler@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:16:49.544298Z
       
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       @Dr_Barlos @graf mr goldstriker was given a sweetheart offer with probono work and he wiped his asss with it. he can live with his decision.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2vxtV2p4z3m3ACmG by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:16:49.118884Z
       
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       @VBurner @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos 390$/hour at an average of 6500 viewers. there was over 20k peak watching last night.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2w6gAJljEZ1aeqdU by VBurner@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:18:25.156366Z
       
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       @graf @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos that doesn't sound particularly sustainablewere they getting a lot of donations from what you observed?
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2wJ8PaZk9s6VjwcS by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:20:39.764035Z
       
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       @VBurner @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos sorry I don't know anything about their finances beyond what I saw in regards to spending in their respective hosting consoles
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2wZz2KgXTZwztcx6 by Constantine2nd@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:23:43.531772Z
       
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       @Heil_Honkler @Dr_Barlos @graf I’m way too autistic to understand what’s going on.  Someone correct me where I’m wrong: Sam Hyde created a lolcow web series called fishtank full of a bunch of weirdos in a house together ala Big Brother?  Sam asked Graf for help with scaling video providers and his backers balked at the $10k upfront payment, even though paying per viewer would be infinitely more as they scaled viewership.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2wbd2BSbxoI4bwsi by TalmudTranslator@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:20:57.089301Z
       
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       @graf @VBurner @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos Lmao god damn. I hear only season pass paycucks can watch right now and I can see why if they are stupidly paying those prices for bandwidth
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2we0jWJqyQN318L2 by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:24:25.920572Z
       
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       @Constantine2nd @Heil_Honkler @Dr_Barlos it was jet that asked but you're mostly right yes
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2wj2nY4La4DtIkvw by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:25:20.385537Z
       
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       @Constantine2nd @Heil_Honkler @Dr_Barlos also I told them 10k originally but was able to cut it down to 8k. I asked for 4k up front, 4k when it concluded. so it wasn't a massive amount
       
 (DIR) Post #AV2xvkBQgpLID15ibI by Constantine2nd@poa.st
       2023-04-26T14:38:51.754925Z
       
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       @graf @Heil_Honkler @Dr_Barlos Thanks Graf.  Then that’s dumb as shit on their part.  Everyone should’ve remember Odysee had section 8 in their Ts and Cs.Sucks to suck, Jet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3AZfAtvgyJhze544 by caekislove@gleasonator.com
       2023-04-26T17:00:31.443329Z
       
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       @TalmudTranslator @graf @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos @VBurner I bought a season pass and am watching along with 6.8k others right now. I guess we now know why nobody has done something like this before lol
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3BI4R3NAg0nJNLxA by caekislove@gleasonator.com
       2023-04-26T17:08:33.072553Z
       
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       @TalmudTranslator @graf @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos @VBurner 7.4k now 😳
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3BS7yb3ugSfkrREO by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T17:10:21.270860Z
       
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       @caekislove @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos @TalmudTranslator @VBurner $$$
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3BVx5tSqLG51670a by WashedOutGundamPilot@poa.st
       2023-04-26T17:11:03.925309Z
       
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       @Dr_Barlos @graf I just don’t see any way of them going off-google/cloudflare/corporate for their infrastructure. Sam’s been inundated with alt-tech proposals for years, he’s got a huge amount of resistance built up so no matter how hard you sell him on why a non-corporate system would work better and cheaper he’ll ignore it. Can’t totally blame him, when you have this much attention, you just want something that will 100% work with no more downtime, and it’s hard to trust small time hodgepodge solutions without a serious track record. If he’s smart (he’s only moderately smart, but internet-poisoned which blinds him) then he’d diversify and do a smaller peertube instance w/ graph as a “test case” to help divert some load, and as it gets stress tested he can monkeybranch the feed over to that one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3BaH9Mq2MTROmfdA by caekislove@gleasonator.com
       2023-04-26T17:11:50.678718Z
       
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       @graf @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos @TalmudTranslator @VBurner No wonder Google and Amazon have live streaming monopolies.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3ClvFyACgCy6zPqC by Oozeman@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-04-26T17:25:10.060511Z
       
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       @WashedOutGundamPilot @Dr_Barlos I could understand being blinded by "muh alt-tech doesn't work" the first time, even though that's jaded old man behavior to not even try it out, but to fuck it up a second time is just unbelievable. Why hasn't he hired a consultant for tech shit at this point? Sam must be the definition of penny wise and pound foolish.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3D9oPPH7DGgFnMfI by WashedOutGundamPilot@poa.st
       2023-04-26T17:29:28.483507Z
       
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       @Oozeman @Dr_Barlos Yeah, this is all easily explained by the fact that he’s an artist who’s never held down a professional job. Work with any of the creator class like him and these same ouvres rise to the surface every damn time. I do think there’s a cycle - hyde’s audience doesn’t pay enough for him to keep reliable professionals on retainer, which means the final product he delivers doesn’t make as much money, and the cycle continues. The site is actually very nice, when you consider how inexperienced the guys are making it. It managed to stay up for a day or two….pretty good for a first-timer. If you think this is bad, imagine how bad their bookkeeping is. Probably a total nightmare. Probably another shoddy LLC, too. Ugh.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3Eugca98U45nsCKu by node@poa.st
       2023-04-26T17:49:09.434072Z
       
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       @caekislove @graf @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos @TalmudTranslator @VBurner graf said his solution would cost $10k per month. thats not too much, $120k a year for bandwidth is alright for a medium-sized organization.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3EzP66j7bRBvvttg by graf@poa.st
       2023-04-26T17:49:57.127169Z
       
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       @node @caekislove @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos @TalmudTranslator @VBurner neg I quoted them 10k then managed to squeeze it down to 8k for the entire 45 days
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3F7RaTLznLEJyBMm by Codeki@poa.st
       2023-04-26T17:51:27.813921Z
       
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       @WashedOutGundamPilot @Oozeman @Dr_Barlos Sam’s always been a dude who pisses away money like it’s water.  He gets more money?  He blows it faster.It’s not even that he doesn’t make a lot.  It’s just that if he gets a check for ten million, he’s going to spend ten million.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV3FH9XnIDLmALLXlo by Dr_Tetanus@poa.st
       2023-04-26T17:53:13.101092Z
       
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       @graf @caekislove @BasedLord @Dr_Barlos @TalmudTranslator @VBurner The highest I saw it at was 18-19k