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 (DIR) Post #AV1T3Kv3DJbuQubvdI by MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk
       2023-04-25T12:17:21Z
       
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       What would happen if the richest 10% reduced their CO2 emissions to the EU average (which BTW is a nice standard of living).Answer, there would be a 35% decrease in global CO2 emissions.So, all would be fixed, if we could limit the excesses of the top 10%.
       
 (DIR) Post #AV1Ty26xoUgubkDZho by craftyguy@freeradical.zone
       2023-04-25T21:27:32Z
       
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       @MarkHoltom 10% of *global* income, which seems to be mostly people in the EU and the US, according to worldbank: https://datatopics.worldbank.org/world-development-indicators/the-world-by-income-and-region.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AV1YfpXkImTCBesubw by dan@social.coop
       2023-04-25T22:20:42Z
       
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       @craftyguy @MarkHoltom check again what EU average means
       
 (DIR) Post #AaIRfwSMpvUegci09I by ivalaine@universeodon.com
       2023-04-25T13:32:21Z
       
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       @MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.u is that individuals or includes industry? Because those big CO2 industries are usually the most challenging to change. But we need to financially back them if they want to try new energy sources BECAUSE the impact if they succeed is worth it and then some.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaIRhAQYNZCUJ0RcsC by shiwali@sigmoid.social
       2023-04-25T15:50:51Z
       
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       @MarkHoltom Language like in this graph creates an illusion that *we* are not responsible for the CO2 emissions but the 'richest' in the world are.10% of earth's population 8B is 800M. The richest 10% _in the world_ are likely people living in US, Canada, Western Europe, Middle East, and Australia.https://www.worlddata.info/average-income.php*We have to limit _our own_ excesses _now_*. _OUR_ consumption is making it worse for the remaining 7.2B.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaOOBPUjgnRyr7KGno by quixoticgeek@social.v.st
       2023-09-30T12:39:01Z
       
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       @MarkHoltom 35% drop is big. But it's 65% less than needed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaOOBQUly94dxWLoUy by MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk
       2023-10-03T11:04:02Z
       
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       @quixoticgeek @LordCaramac@herrmannpierreThis is not true.The Global Carbon Project produced the image below.1) that a certain level of CO2 in the atmosphere is fine (<>280-300ppm)2) We do NOT have to reduce our emissions to zero. Just emit no more than the sinks can take up.3) to get from 400ppm down to 300ppm, we will need to reduce more than the sinks can uptake, but this still doesn't mean NO CO2 emissions.4) we don't have to go back to a medieval lifestyle to achieve this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaOOBRTOKlYyzWiDz6 by Ariovistus@poa.st
       2023-10-03T12:02:26.470466Z
       
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       @MarkHoltom @quixoticgeek @LordCaramac @herrmannpierre So you are saying all we need to do is depopulate the third world and we are fine? Great 👍