Post AUxdLJPJnMo9rl8eP2 by Bro-Drillard@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AUxbN4y0FwF9ka4pjk by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2023-04-24T00:32:31.166484Z
15 likes, 5 repeats
by 2024 you will be able to try to replace half your technical staff (the annoying ones (the ones who actually know stuff)) with GPT-4 agents. by 2025 you will be in bankruptcy proceedings and likely facing several civil suits
(DIR) Post #AUxbWYNqFqhHahgG0W by RustyCrab@sleepy.cafe
2023-04-24T00:34:12.524120Z
8 likes, 0 repeats
@deprecated_ii -t guy who has never used a computer for more than web browsing
(DIR) Post #AUxbZaVSomV52mgzzM by WashedOutGundamPilot@poa.st
2023-04-24T00:34:46.888906Z
10 likes, 3 repeats
@deprecated_ii Cannot WAIT for the lawsuits here. Imagine an 85 IQ by-the-hour “contractor” trying to fix an IV pump’s firmware equipped with nothing but a remote-access login, chatbot AI, and an aged macbook with a 40% battery
(DIR) Post #AUxc0YaE4nmatjmPXk by GrungeQueef@poa.st
2023-04-24T00:39:39.650007Z
17 likes, 6 repeats
@WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii saved 🤣
(DIR) Post #AUxcClJOZt7Fqkj9uK by InceptionState@poa.st
2023-04-24T00:41:52.341132Z
6 likes, 0 repeats
@RustyCrab @deprecated_ii It might speed up some low-end work by automating some of the boilerplate code, but that will primarily impact overseas bodyshops that were already just copy-pasting from Stack Overflow. The "killer app" so far is replacing Buzzfeed journalists and marketers, which is rather funny given how they are the ones hyping this up.
(DIR) Post #AUxcF050drCSEO48HY by Jean_Philippe_Micheaux@poa.st
2023-04-24T00:42:16.494969Z
7 likes, 1 repeats
@GrungeQueef @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii I love how people keep thinking technology is a panacea. Lol
(DIR) Post #AUxcKLJf74axXgT0Zk by RustyCrab@sleepy.cafe
2023-04-24T00:43:12.185641Z
8 likes, 0 repeats
@WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii it's hard to tell how much actual fear there is among coders right now but copilot is...Saying "not good" is such an understatement that it's a near non sequitur. I used it for multiple days and all it did was shit itself the moment it got taken out of a small generic python script. There are applications for it but people saying it's going to replace coders either haven't actually seen it in a real application or are so brain dead that it's a wonder they can turn on the computer to type something that stupid.
(DIR) Post #AUxcPaeTWTLwYLhidc by RustyCrab@sleepy.cafe
2023-04-24T00:44:10.168292Z
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@InceptionState @deprecated_ii yes what it does it prevent you from having to alt tab to a search engine every 3 minutes if you don't know the language well.
(DIR) Post #AUxce8Q8lfq5L5w0WW by CathodeRayGun@poa.st
2023-04-24T00:38:40.171267Z
6 likes, 0 repeats
@WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii The boomers running everything are totally dumb enough to get into a mess like this, too. It's more likely to happen than not happen.
(DIR) Post #AUxdLJPJnMo9rl8eP2 by Bro-Drillard@poa.st
2023-04-24T00:54:36.974895Z
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@RustyCrab @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii It's wordcels who masturbate to replacing programmers with ChatGPT because they think sw development is like writing a Buzzfeed article. You just sit down, type up some random, mindless shit while completely clueless about everything, and et voila the next Facebook or AWS cloud.
(DIR) Post #AUxe9VFg22Bx52YtQe by RustyCrab@sleepy.cafe
2023-04-24T01:03:38.966993Z
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@Bro-Drillard @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii one important thing is that even when copilot worked well, it never ACTUALLY worked 100%. You get into the flow pretty quickly, but almost everything it writes is wrong to some degree or another and you have to make small corrections.This isn't a problem in practice because you already had the logic of what needed to be there in your head and it's functionally equivalent to correcting a typo. It becomes subconscious and it seems like you're just cruising but in reality you're just tard wrangling the thing on every suggestion.If you don't actually know what you're doing, everything you write is going to be slightly wrong... And this is a field where being slightly wrong is the same as being completely wrong.
(DIR) Post #AUxeluMl6dbZyVBfX6 by Bro-Drillard@poa.st
2023-04-24T01:10:37.788939Z
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@RustyCrab @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii Yup. This is why I wrote the other day that if/when they hand over the maintenance of a reasonably complex sw system to AI, it'll look good initially. Then over time it'll drift, with subtle errors accumulating until it becomes impossible to overlook. But at that point it'll be a mess of impossible to disentangle side-effects and data that got corrupted over time.
(DIR) Post #AUxf5QYHfDmjIdsxUG by RustyCrab@sleepy.cafe
2023-04-24T01:14:07.562413Z
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@Bro-Drillard @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii well at least with the current incarnations it will just crash and burn immediately with no survivors. In 10 years that might be the case.
(DIR) Post #AUxmuPbpd062p7ns8m by CenturianFrend@poa.st
2023-04-24T02:41:48.583158Z
2 likes, 2 repeats
@RustyCrab @Bro-Drillard @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii results may vary
(DIR) Post #AUyCcNWBGIFvvxDnou by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-04-24T07:29:02.019862Z
3 likes, 1 repeats
The most amusing thing is that in reality, chatgpt CANT CODE. It's trained on text, it knows how to bullshit it's way through anything, but it cannot write actual code. There is one exception, it is fairly good at translating code from one language to another, but if you can't structure the algo from the beginning - it's won't do it, it'll just try it's best to convince you that it did.
(DIR) Post #AUyCh8M73wUEM9mQaG by GrungeQueef@poa.st
2023-04-24T07:30:44.306003Z
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@cjd @Jean_Philippe_Micheaux @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii I wonder how well it can be trained to write code. AI has come a long way in a very short time.
(DIR) Post #AUyCpE3hk62cMR1oaO by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-04-24T07:31:52.781697Z
3 likes, 1 repeats
And the best part is the corollary: ChatGPT is INCREDIBLY GOOD AT BULLSHITTING, so people who can't code think its a genius. I expect there will be some @PHP_CEO-esque business failures from bosses who become convinced that it can code and force their staff to use it.
(DIR) Post #AUyCuwDWzQF4lQLf3A by Jean_Philippe_Micheaux@poa.st
2023-04-24T07:33:14.180393Z
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@cjd @GrungeQueef @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii i remember asking story beats for random obscure books i read and i know it just generated a fake story for it based on the amazon product page.
(DIR) Post #AUyDI1hokXkARkWYQi by deprecated_ii@poa.st
2023-04-24T07:37:24.166972Z
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@GrungeQueef @cjd @Jean_Philippe_Micheaux @WashedOutGundamPilot I doubt the "just tell a computer what you want and it writes the software for you" dream will ever be meaningfully achieved
(DIR) Post #AUyDndbXtPKAxsfDlo by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-04-24T07:42:48.197349Z
3 likes, 1 repeats
I remember seeing a meme about this, the programmer says to the other one, "no worries, our jobs are perfectly secure because our customers never know what they want"
(DIR) Post #AUyDtWpfz4VJhP59yC by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-04-24T07:41:33.506741Z
1 likes, 1 repeats
So from a first principles perspective, there will come a point where the world's most powerful supercomputer exceeds the power of the human brain, and soon after there will come a point where every GPU exceeds the power of the human brain. At that point it's just about structuring, to the extent that they can copy the brain's structure, they will be able to make something as good as the best humans.But guessing the way the brain is structured is not trivial. There of course comes a point in the *distant* future when silicon becomes so powerful that they're able to "emulate" the bio-chemical processes of the brain and so they don't even need to care about structuring, just "execute the DNA", but that's pretty far off.Back to the topic though, what we should normally expect is that the low hanging fruit will get swept up: CSS, React websites, boilerplate. But then as AI advances, so too do languages and frameworks, so boilerplate decreases. What is legitimately powerful is AI + Human. I know a lawyer who uses ChatGPT to write briefs, they're not *perfect* but they only need a tiny bit of editing to be good, it's a big power multiplier.
(DIR) Post #AUybkNNa9v1yfs6tIu by sickburnbro@poa.st
2023-04-24T12:11:26.901541Z
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@GrungeQueef @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii as I keep mentioning, you won't see wide use of this because liability. When something goes wrong it means you can't explain why the AI did something.