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(DIR) Post #AUn4jSPIXwhOkfJ8fw by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-18T22:36:38Z
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🔹 Fox damages Dominion.🔹Dominion sues for damages.Fox lost.🔹Dominon gets compensated for the damages they suffered.People in my notifications are saying:🔹This is why people hate the legal system!🔹There is no justice in America!🔹Fox was not totally ruined so the entire lawsuit was a a travesty of justice🔹Fox only had to cut a check so they won (Dominion sued to force them to write a check)I think I need to log off for a while.
(DIR) Post #AUn4jSu8hHMwIJjlkO by fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza
2023-04-18T22:39:37Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I find it hard to believe that anybody believed this was going to end any way other than a settlement.I hope the rest of your day goes well!
(DIR) Post #AUn5T1YAjRMYmGBcDQ by dmiller62@mastodon.world
2023-04-18T22:47:50Z
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@Teri_Kanefield However. FOX on-air admissions would almost certainly have come at a cost relative to the settlement amount. Viewed in that light, it’s less surprising how this turned out. Dominion, employees and shareholders would have been paying for it.
(DIR) Post #AUn5X9jMG8QBJ5OAC0 by DcircleF@mstdn.party
2023-04-18T22:48:36Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I hear you. The legal system worked, and it worked the way that Dominion wanted it to work. It forced Fox to pay them $787.5 million dollars. Domion won in the legal court. But I think people (including me) wanted Dominion to win in the court of public opinion. They want Fox’s lies and duplicity to be public. They want people to learn how disinformation was used to achieve agendas and make money. So…it may still happen. It depends on the terms.
(DIR) Post #AUn5YEVA0RsIOSGGrg by BakercatsPolWat04@mastodon.social
2023-04-18T22:48:47Z
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@Teri_Kanefield My thoughts are: Fox’s legal issues only get bigger from here.
(DIR) Post #AUn5ac6pCmLcBq0vTs by SimplySarah@mastodon.social
2023-04-18T22:49:11Z
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@Teri_Kanefield So what it sounds like is that ppl are angry that Fox used Dominion as a tool to harm the Country and it's citizens. Maybe a lot of ppl could feel better with an "apology" from Fox instead of just Dominion getting one. Would a class action lawsuit be applicable? (Non-legal person here, honestly asking.)
(DIR) Post #AUn5lKjQ9dl3TpB7pI by goodenough@universeodon.com
2023-04-18T22:50:51Z
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@Teri_KanefieldThanks for bringing you experience and insight, and sensibility, to this matter.
(DIR) Post #AUn64PbsF1dg6zkInw by igrok@hachyderm.io
2023-04-18T22:54:36Z
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@Teri_Kanefield it's because if most people lose a lawsuit, the penalties will financially ruin them. Even winning can do that because of legal fees. Corporations basically never see that kind of penalty because the amounts seem crazy largeNow, I understand your point as "if you think this is wrong, you've gotta reshape the way things are politically & stop looking to the courts to solve your problems" but damn that's going to be hardThis just looked like an easy win
(DIR) Post #AUn66Bj6pWmpdHydM0 by kevin_hardiman@mastodon.social
2023-04-18T22:54:51Z
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@Teri_Kanefield a $787.5M check. That’s a little over 3/4 of a $B. Take any company on the planet and damages of this amount hurt, and bad. Also: there was no way in hell Fox executives were going to testify, they needed this to go away so they could get back to scaring grandma and grandpa unmolested.
(DIR) Post #AUn6EsseGjgJmxaMYS by MaRY1Fem@c.im
2023-04-18T22:56:29Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Fox had to admit it told lies ad part of the settlement. Right? That's HUGE. This settlment is a win. I suspect the admission of Fox that they lied about the election will have fallout.
(DIR) Post #AUn6KoICEvBNITMRpQ by KFClinton@mas.to
2023-04-18T22:57:34Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I had someone post that Fox won.The hell they did! They are not only still facing lots of lawsuits, they just handed over 3/4 of a billion and also had tons of terrible texts outed and had to admit they lied all over repeatedly, even in depositions but also on air, etc. etc. etc. etc.etc.They took a mortal wound and smartmatic, their board and other suits will keep on pounding them with existential hits in this country and also around the world.Harry and Elton John...
(DIR) Post #AUn6M5TxoWXGtqTSdc by colo_lee@universeodon.com
2023-04-18T22:41:34Z
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@Teri_Kanefield a lot of people seem to think it's a tv show and they're disappointed at the lack of fireworks at the conclusion of this story arc ...
(DIR) Post #AUn6YWOdZdODqauasS by lloydian@mstdn.social
2023-04-18T23:00:00Z
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@Teri_Kanefield No idea why anyone would be upset. Dominion was never going to get the full $1.6 billion. Fox didn't get to claim they weren't admitting guilt. And because they settled, Fox doesn't get to file an appeal. Win. Win. Win.
(DIR) Post #AUn6YmwC4djr9IjcP2 by knottedthreads@mstdn.social
2023-04-18T22:45:55Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The frustrating thing about US civil law is that it is specifically designed to *not punish* parties found responsible for causing harm. Fox isn’t even going to feel this payout, and they get to go on doing exactly what they did to be found liable in the first place, knowing that it’s worth the cost of subsequent payouts to keep their viewership.
(DIR) Post #AUn6YnZXiLDL7L92jg by edgeoforever@mastodon.world
2023-04-18T22:59:40Z
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@knottedthreads @Teri_Kanefield it’s a CIVIL suit. Purpose is reparations unlike a criminal trial.
(DIR) Post #AUn6aWZZt9osyQz596 by ZhiZhu@newsie.social
2023-04-18T23:00:22Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thanks for all that you do.::hugs::
(DIR) Post #AUn6e3lAxMDslp5w80 by DaltonRoad@toot.community
2023-04-18T23:00:49Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I present it this way: dominion is going to get dragged through the mud & there’s nothing they can do about it anymoreFox hosts are all going to say “we didn’t lie and we just told the truth and covered the story”, Trump and all of his supporters are going to pointless and say “see, dominion, was lying the whole time. Why else would they settle???”No requirement for apologies, no requirement for on air acknowledgment of what they did or anything else
(DIR) Post #AUn6qNICA0zqpBPa1g by knottedthreads@mstdn.social
2023-04-18T23:03:19Z
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@edgeoforever @Teri_Kanefield I understand that, but to the average observer, it feels like Fox is getting off nearly scot-free and will be able to continue with impunity the malfeasance that got it sued. That makes it feel very much like it doesn’t matter if Fox uses its platform to destroy American democracy — they’ll just sign a check, continue raking in the profits, and laugh all the way to the bank.
(DIR) Post #AUn6w2U2RO1o1YeUiW by lukasneville@mastodon.social
2023-04-18T23:04:17Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I wonder what happens to the derivative shareholder lawsuit
(DIR) Post #AUn70T2DfKAxWukf2G by DrewKadel@social.coop
2023-04-18T23:05:05Z
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@Teri_Kanefield People fantasize that the law can solve all moral and political questions. It regulates various types of behavior within our polity--keeps the grossest of injustices within that from getting terribly out of control. It does not create "justice" in the moral or spiritual sense that most people are really seeking. That's a bigger challenge in human society.
(DIR) Post #AUn7GYNHa2QMixH3mi by vruz@mastodon.social
2023-04-18T23:07:59Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Dominion is Diebold. There are no good sides.
(DIR) Post #AUn7hdw50mtJn5T3cu by jgkoomey@mastodon.energy
2023-04-18T23:12:54Z
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@Teri_Kanefield But why did Dominion settle without forcing Fox to admit on air that they lied?
(DIR) Post #AUn7r4paNwIFoLvdDs by mrhames@mastodon.social
2023-04-18T23:14:30Z
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@Teri_Kanefield stay positive. You’re the mastodon mom and we need you.
(DIR) Post #AUn8JT7reQfxGi153w by OkieSpaceQueen@scicomm.xyz
2023-04-18T23:19:40Z
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@Teri_Kanefield solidarity. People really do not understand how things work so they don't understand that their expectations are not realistic.
(DIR) Post #AUn8fg8VxWNvzTuXke by PJ_Evans@mastodon.social
2023-04-18T23:23:43Z
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@Teri_Kanefield No one but the lawyers and the court really knows the settlement terms yet, and that's still a LOT of money.
(DIR) Post #AUn9B9GRiCynJ3cvTs by cdlhamma@hachyderm.io
2023-04-18T23:29:19Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I clarified my reply to you (not that mine matters in the grand scheme 🤣) - I totally get this is an admission of guilt and so its a win! The reason I found it concerning is that in the court of public opinion a settlement makes things go away much quicker for Fox vs spending weeks or months in the news. You know how quickly the cycle moves here, its nauseating. I'm curious if there are any other clauses in the settlement other than cash.
(DIR) Post #AUn9Sfv5YKlvVazibY by kkeller@curling.social
2023-04-18T23:32:36Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I suspect many folks (myself included!) at least wanted Dominion to force Fox to show prominent messages on all of the shows which lied that they said things that were provably untrue. That seems a reasonable restorative action to help make Dominion "whole" (or at least start).OTOH, nobody watching Fox regularly is likely to be swayed by any such message; they'd just assume it's more deep state crap. So this is probably the best Dominion could do.
(DIR) Post #AUn9c6yALtpY0Xvw7U by LyleDAL@universeodon.com
2023-04-18T23:34:19Z
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@Teri_Kanefield We know it was a huge sum of money, and it would have been irresponsible not to take the settlement. BUT... we non-legal normies really, REALLY wanted to see RM and the FNC talent forced to admit under oath what lying pieces of crap they are. And maybe public on air admissions as well. We'll get over not getting that, but it sure as hell would have been nice.
(DIR) Post #AUn9kdg2d6eflWWQoS by Axomamma@mastodon.online
2023-04-18T23:35:51Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Have a lovely rest away from the madness. I greatly appreciate what you're doing.
(DIR) Post #AUnAPhuFoIoQkskjRI by All4One@hachyderm.io
2023-04-18T23:43:16Z
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@Teri_Kanefield think Dominion board/ownership is very happy and that's what matters in this case. Individual feelings, if your a stock holder of faux news, join the class action, there are at least two out there.... I don't believe Dominion was taking faux news to court for our feelings. Just my 2 cents
(DIR) Post #AUnAXvNbbHjIrJOrM8 by ArchieBAntlers@meow.social
2023-04-18T23:44:39Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I admit I'm frustrated that Fox wasn't put through the wringer that they deserved, but the amount they had to pay out was roughly 22.7 times the salary of one Tucker Carlson. They're hurting. I can't imagine it's that far off from the profits they make in a year.
(DIR) Post #AUnAtUaxrhq09uvuIi by ML2@akkoma.sandhill.social
2023-04-18T23:48:43.405689Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Sorry to hear that the silliness got to you. Sometimes it does with me too. Usually I mute people if they get that silly, but sometimes I have to log off for a few hours.
(DIR) Post #AUnB34jKsxTiptPyoi by kthornton@home.social
2023-04-18T23:50:22Z
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@Teri_Kanefield maybe, your read is wrong and our grandparents who still listen to Fox should be told Fox lied. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe without that piece, there is no Justice. Piece of Justice is no Justice. No Justice, no peace. Hey, that makes me think, let’s ask a #Justin. Let’s see what our young people say, let’s listen before telling young people what true Justice is. #fox #dominion #nojusticenopeace
(DIR) Post #AUnBADaoKiskLjpvX6 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-18T23:51:42Z
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@jgkoomey Because that was never the demand in the lawsuit.Because they evidently decided that a settlement that was 45 times the amount they earned in their highest year compensated them for the damages they suffered.
(DIR) Post #AUnBOJIbuhdg6O2jVQ by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-18T23:54:15Z
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@knottedthreads @edgeoforever If that is the case then the "average observer" is not educated enough for democracy to work.I do my postings to help educate people. I have no sympathy for people who don't want to learn and who shout AMERICAN JUSTICE IS A FARCE because they sound exactly like the January 6 insurrectionists.Democracy assumes an educated electorate.
(DIR) Post #AUnBeQBO5YRw5HLZRY by uninventive@universeodon.com
2023-04-18T23:57:08Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Sometimes peaceful to have a 2nd account on here with no connection to your personal life. Where you can just be Teri, politics and world be damned.Ah, who am I kidding? That's what I intended for this account I use to reply to folks, it crept in and now it doesn't stop. You're probably right.
(DIR) Post #AUnCT5nFeg43cIDf2e by jeffc@mastodon.online
2023-04-19T00:06:17Z
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@Teri_KanefieldI think people are angry because they feel Fox has damaged our democracy, but that's not a crime. So they were hoping this lawsuit would provide moral retribution or deterrence, but the settlement won't provide either one.I don't have any good answers. Stepping away for perspective seems like the best choice.
(DIR) Post #AUnCYfHJ9Q6F7Pw2Hw by soc_i_ety@mstdn.ca
2023-04-19T00:07:17Z
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@Teri_Kanefield We all need to log off for a while, every once in a while. :mastodon:
(DIR) Post #AUnD9krdLUBN9pc0ae by RockerDoc@mastodon.social
2023-04-19T00:13:59Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Yes - maybe walk JJ! Thank you for all you do.
(DIR) Post #AUnDCMojCw7FRjUyYK by CatHerding@mastodon.social
2023-04-19T00:14:23Z
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@Teri_Kanefield you’re posts are VERY helpful for those of us non-legal people who thought this case was something it wasn’t. Our expectations were set too high. Thanks for your engagement! I appreciate you! 💕🌷
(DIR) Post #AUnDUeP4YrOfCYDV0C by PghExpat@pgh.social
2023-04-19T00:17:45Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @jgkoomey (Sigh) I guess a lot of execs will retire and not look back—
(DIR) Post #AUnDioRw0TNWPgJBMO by Allyson@mas.to
2023-04-19T00:20:21Z
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@Teri_Kanefield
(DIR) Post #AUnDmg5Z2A5VdnghoO by PITTERSPLATTER@mastodon.art
2023-04-19T00:21:01Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I personally haven't seen the point in the rabid public obsession over this case. It is widely accepted as fact that Fox News is republican "state media" and that they are nothing more than a propaganda network. The coverage if all the hosts trashing Trump was great for people to see, but at the end of the day the average fox news addict won't be swayed, even if they know full well they are being lied too. WE are responsible for protecting our own democracy, not Dominion.
(DIR) Post #AUnDxfs0BgTK9EaVMG by pgreer@genomic.social
2023-04-19T00:23:00Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I think people are spoiled by the Alex Jones Sandy hook verdict. Fox is a bigger fish that may have done more damage. No one has seen the settlement. The biggest disappointment will be if Fox got to settle without admitting any wrongdoing. That is common in most settlements but should have been really hard to accept considering the summary judgement.
(DIR) Post #AUnEDaDMyvQbF2AUYS by gwbstr@cybervillains.com
2023-04-19T00:25:53Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I feel privileged to have not see any of this. Maybe a result of different feeds these days.
(DIR) Post #AUnEUQQwbIc3pSY4em by PBruce@mastodon.social
2023-04-19T00:28:55Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The system worked and did what it is intended to do in this case. Plus, what Fox New is is well documented & proven now
(DIR) Post #AUnEymXkxeJV5aD5Yu by knottedthreads@mstdn.social
2023-04-19T00:34:25Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @edgeoforever Educated to what extent? I have multiple graduate degrees, but everything I know about civil law comes from stuff I find on the internet. Does every American need to go to law school in order for democracy to have a chance?
(DIR) Post #AUnF5n4jNkZ6lWyYDI by CatHerding@mastodon.social
2023-04-19T00:35:42Z
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@Teri_Kanefield also, I listened to reputable law podcasts& read articles& was told how important& damning this trial wld be.Media hyped it& explained the law to us non-legals. Same w Mueller & the rest. It’s disappointing & frustrating to be told somethng won’t happn & then when it does, there’ll be justice;followed by nothing. Many are engaged& disappointed. I’ve spent A LOT of my free-time educating myself abt the law& frankly I don’t see evidence of “justice for all”.
(DIR) Post #AUnFZOOLifaCtlGd3Q by elthesensai@mastodon.social
2023-04-19T00:41:03Z
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@Teri_Kanefield this is the problem with extreme thinking. Anyone that thought this was going to be justice for democracy or that Fox was going to perish don’t understand how capitalism works or that the our legal system is to assure justice to those that were harm.
(DIR) Post #AUnFgdM4U7Y5KieeLA by CanadianCrone@mstdn.ca
2023-04-19T00:42:21Z
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@Teri_Kanefield wow. Just wow. Words fail. You’ve expressed how many of us feel. Wow.
(DIR) Post #AUnGMDoZpi9YHfoogi by AlgoCompSynth@ravenation.club
2023-04-19T00:49:51Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The moral of the story is that big corporations aren't going to rid the media of professional liars for us. We have to do that ourselves.I hope you don't log off just because people don't realize that.
(DIR) Post #AUnHA2KwmWsjAIiGrg by icfy95@mastodon.online
2023-04-19T00:58:49Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @knottedthreads @edgeoforever it is a farce - Clarence Thomas, Recent Row v. Wade backtrack, judicial appointment process, Presidential pardons of friends and co conspirators, the US incarceration rate (particularly towards the poor and minorities) - the list goes on. The Dominion case shows that the justice system should have pursued criminal action against Fox- evidence of wrongdoing was there .
(DIR) Post #AUnHLCa726Be7j89Zo by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-19T01:00:54Z
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@icfy95 @knottedthreads @edgeoforever There was no crime.Lying is not a crime. You cannot bring criminal actions unless there was a crime.However, if a lie causes damage, you can be sued and forced to pay for the damage, which is what happened.
(DIR) Post #AUnHnt7aSpQ6AQSzbM by knottedthreads@mstdn.social
2023-04-19T01:06:03Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @icfy95 @edgeoforever I think what a lot of people have trouble with is the fact that Fox doesn’t have to admit any wrongdoing and is free to continue telling lies that cause damage as long as they are willing to pay those damages going forward. It means that conduct that would absolutely ruin the rest of us is of negligible consequence to Fox, and they’re free to keep doing it.
(DIR) Post #AUnHsZVMpCkqm9p4vg by slowmiracleme@masto.ai
2023-04-19T01:06:55Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Grateful for you, Teri, always, and all that you do.
(DIR) Post #AUnI9IPBecyifHuHlg by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-19T01:09:57Z
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@knottedthreads @icfy95 @edgeoforever When Dominion sued Fox, they demanded money.They got what they demanded.Dominion didn't sue Fox so that critics of Fox would get what they wanted.
(DIR) Post #AUnIZdskQVvMnrIS3s by knottedthreads@mstdn.social
2023-04-19T01:14:42Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @icfy95 @edgeoforever I understand that. Everybody understands that. What is less understandable is that Fox is under no obligation to amend its conduct in response to this legal action. It can *continue to deliberately inflict harm* as long as its targets don’t have as much means to seek redress as Fox has to just write off its harmful actions.
(DIR) Post #AUnIjow6BOX9yyiXOC by Thinkingfish@mastodonapp.uk
2023-04-19T01:16:32Z
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@Teri_Kanefield This is a win… we should all be goddam celebrating!
(DIR) Post #AUnIq93mH9b08JKCmW by icfy95@mastodon.online
2023-04-19T01:17:41Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @knottedthreads @edgeoforever attempting to subvert an election is a crime (even in the US) Inciting threats to public officials and election workers is a crime, inciting rebellion is a crime, seditious conspiracy is a crime. Advocating the overthrown of government is a crime. Fox actions and statements cover several if not all of these.
(DIR) Post #AUnJ4UXzBQzIpRINn6 by quotesofnote@zirk.us
2023-04-19T01:20:16Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I appreciate your very helpful explanations of legal issues.It is clear that Dominion made a sound decision to settle and the legal system operated as designed.It is understandable that many of us would like for Fox to have had to go on trial. So, we are disappointed, even if justice was served.
(DIR) Post #AUnJZhjaCj0WhkbT0q by timo21@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-04-19T01:25:55Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The moral is don't count on someone that is not on your side to save your arse (or democracy). The corporate world is not going to save democracy for us. This is misplaced anger at Dominion. When I was a kid, one time the St. Louis MLB team needed the Chicago Cubs (a terrible team that year) to win the last game of the season for the Cardinals to win the division & get into the playoffs. It didn't happen, of course. Don't expect others to do what you didn't do. Go protest & vote.
(DIR) Post #AUnJaqXewWemJKZRmi by Thinkingfish@mastodonapp.uk
2023-04-19T01:26:08Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The Stones had it right, you don’t always get what you want, but you get what you need… we got the win we needed.
(DIR) Post #AUnMK3kqrfmIEGQcMa by Fourth_Dogma@mastodon.online
2023-04-19T01:56:43Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Teri, the metaphor that comes to my mind is HBO's Game of Thrones -- you thought it was going to have a great ending and when you see the actual ending you are disappointed. Personally, I was hoping to see some first class lawyering leading to a victory against Fox News, but the writers had a different ending in mind, and in retrospect I saw it coming from a mile away...
(DIR) Post #AUnMrMldCIO8kfftlw by marcolgato@kolektiva.social
2023-04-19T02:02:45Z
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@fcktheworld587 @Teri_Kanefield We knew there was going to be a settlement, the hope was that the settlement would include an admission of the lies, preferably on prime time, by the principals involved.
(DIR) Post #AUnMyNGpizDqL7bwf2 by amd@social.amd.im
2023-04-19T02:03:58Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @donmelton I think some fail to remember that a settlement can only occur if Dominion also agrees to it…
(DIR) Post #AUnO259F93qnFLOPRY by philip@mastodon.mallegolhansen.com
2023-04-19T02:15:52Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @knottedthreads @edgeoforever > If that is the case then the "average observer" is not educated enough for democracy to work.That seems like an obvious truism. Has it ever been otherwise?
(DIR) Post #AUnOIAmNyYYpLSNFNA by zigzaggin@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-04-19T02:18:47Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Dominion succeeded in so many ways - beyond my expectations. Maybe they'll get that credit once the disappointment dies down.
(DIR) Post #AUnPff5RYkyLxM3Iu0 by knottedthreads@mstdn.social
2023-04-19T02:18:02Z
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@philip @Teri_Kanefield @edgeoforever If everybody needs a JD in order to be considered minimally competent to participate in democracy, then we might as well give up and let the fascists win.
(DIR) Post #AUnPffsibYO6QB6ehs by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-19T02:34:14Z
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@knottedthreads @philip @edgeoforever You don't need a JD not to spout off untruths. I was being sort of facetious. Let's say you did a poll like this:Dominion sued Fox. Fox settled by paying almost $1 billion in damages. Who won:(1) Fox(2) DominionI don't think the "average" person would pick choice (1).Anyone who picks (1) is either below average of (2) unable to distinguish information from exaggerations or misinformation, which would be a serious problem.
(DIR) Post #AUnQIATlIBjqK0mvho by jasonmoser@hachyderm.io
2023-04-19T02:41:11Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @briankrebs I’m with you. I really don’t understand the furor and actually was surprised it got this close to an actual trial.
(DIR) Post #AUnRWwOi1s0Owl26gS by jgkoomey@mastodon.energy
2023-04-19T02:54:59Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Well, it should have been. Having the judge state clearly that they lied is good, but forcing them to admit on air that they lied would have really messed with the Fox audience and done great harm to Fox's business. They continue to promote fascism with impunity and somebody needs to stop them.
(DIR) Post #AUnS251Q0vk2fhzGyG by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-19T03:00:43Z
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@knottedthreadsYou don't need a JD not to spout off untruths. I was being sort of facetious. Let's say you did a poll like this:Dominion sued Fox. Fox settled by paying almost $1 billion in damages. Did Fox get off nearly scot free?(1) Yes(2) NoI don't believe the "average" person would pick choice (1) unless they had been fed misinformation.
(DIR) Post #AUnSCuiAgjdVsc9OGe by robhon@mastodon.social
2023-04-19T03:02:40Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @jgkoomey I read somewhere the judge was about to add a new element by ruling on "actual malice" as part of the summary judgement, leaving only damages for the jury to rule on.
(DIR) Post #AUnSS8z9ts8IUfMHo0 by Animeprincess@defcon.social
2023-04-19T03:05:06Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The victim got exactly what they wanted and that is true justice.
(DIR) Post #AUnXJPzhnAIyPUGyS8 by fchispas@mastodon.social
2023-04-19T03:59:51Z
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@Teri_Kanefield it’s thoroughly exasperating what people are expecting from the legal system vs what they should be expecting from themselves and their communities when it comes to “saving democracy”
(DIR) Post #AUnZCFxMugh59ytOWu by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-19T04:20:59Z
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@knottedthreads @icfy95 @edgeoforever I addressed this repeatedly.Lying is not a crime. You can lie. Fox can lie.But if you tell a lie that causes a person damage, that person can sue and recover an amount to compensate for damages.Nothing can stop Fox from continuing to lie.
(DIR) Post #AUo7UM3UNFXRjFYZzk by SueShannon@mstdn.party
2023-04-19T05:06:37Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @knottedthreads @edgeoforever "Democracy assumes an educated electorate" - you can clearly see the next step here - banning books and threatening teachers at all levels. We need to get to work at every level to protect democracy.
(DIR) Post #AUo9c6k7OAv8SmJxRY by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-04-19T05:15:30Z
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@knottedthreads The best way to learn is to read good books, not the Internet. If you have a graduate degree you should be able to evaluate which books are good...Try good judicial biographies.Or start with something like Simple Justice. Then read Make No Law and Gideon's Trumpet.Even Civil Action is well done.