Post AUhxIM0ateAfa3MSUC by JacquelynGill@spore.social
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(DIR) Post #AUcZ4VfWoWyYnSZe5Y by davidho@mastodon.world
2023-04-13T20:01:20Z
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TBH, this seems worse than having the road blocked by climate activists for a few minutes.
(DIR) Post #AUcaGDXk88A80i4xQe by christian@social.insider-it.de
2023-04-13T20:31:58Z
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@davidho @SheDrivesMobility Where is this
(DIR) Post #AUcaGELN9brSUdIamm by carbontwelve@notacult.social
2023-04-13T20:52:44Z
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@christian Fort Lauderdale, Florida: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/heavy-rain-major-flooding-south-florida-fort-lauderdale/
(DIR) Post #AUcto81r2Lvvso2y8G by pthenq1@mastodon.la
2023-04-14T00:50:08Z
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@davidho Well. They can use they weapons and stay their ground or something
(DIR) Post #AUep6MDeuBGheSMRRw by r000t@ligma.pro
2023-04-14T23:05:44Z
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@davidho"I don't need to worry about climate change, I'll be dead long before it affects me in any way! Depletion? After I die. Shortages? After I die. Skyrocketing prices and people killing each other over resources? After I die. Now then, we absolutely must stop those gay homoqueers. I'm concerned for my grandchildren's future!"@champ
(DIR) Post #AUetP64bYkcGtVJjO4 by bitterblossom@lolison.top
2023-04-14T23:55:03.925792Z
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@davidho then the gators start swarming outta the bushes and the horror movie starts in earnest
(DIR) Post #AUfQNUSHEbN8QBEOsC by irenerd@col.social
2023-04-14T23:13:35Z
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@davidho what TBH means?
(DIR) Post #AUfQNVIk5XL72tmIeO by didek@101010.pl
2023-04-15T06:04:31Z
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@irenerd @davidho "To Be Honest"
(DIR) Post #AUfQSV8s6jdm03XnIu by didek@101010.pl
2023-04-15T06:05:26Z
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@irenerd @davidho 'to be honest'
(DIR) Post #AUft8pef1tFqUwO1Ds by irenerd@col.social
2023-04-15T11:26:12Z
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@didek @davidho thank you kokichi!
(DIR) Post #AUg13NjYDAdI5UaNMm by AustinB@mastodon.social
2023-04-13T20:03:55Z
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@davidho arrest the water for woke traffic blocking or whatever.
(DIR) Post #AUg13OLpupG20EUx2e by jargoggles@mstdn.social
2023-04-13T21:01:05Z
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@AustinB @davidho Have the cops tried shooting the water?
(DIR) Post #AUhxIKKj7p5SNulVaa by JacquelynGill@spore.social
2023-04-14T15:51:24Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @anlomedad @davidho We have fantastic data on public awareness of climate change in the US at a highly granular level. A strong majority of Americans are now Alarmed or Concerned about climate change. What they need are 1) pathways to act, and 2) action from leadership. I've been a climate scientists and an activist for a long time. Normalcy bias isn't the problem, and blocking traffic for 90 min. isn't the solution, in my opinion.
(DIR) Post #AUhxIKuWyhj8AxW6Oe by JacquelynGill@spore.social
2023-04-14T15:53:37Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @anlomedad @davidho I'd love to see more coalition-building, more targeted protests at billionaires and the FF industry to erode their social license to operate, more local capacity building to give people access to better options, more activism targeted towards decision-makers. Sadly, that takes more work, and isn't as cathartic, but it's where the real action happens.
(DIR) Post #AUhxILUKpaMny0GhCi by JacquelynGill@spore.social
2023-04-14T15:57:42Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @anlomedad @davidho We can look to past and present movements (e.g., labor, social justice) and science communication leadership here -- we know what works. I'm not saying protest doesn't (it's a fantastic tool, when applied well), but it should be well-targeted with clear goals. In fact, there's a lot of research that shows that blocking traffic damages support for movements. Maybe we should pay attention to that?
(DIR) Post #AUhxIM0ateAfa3MSUC by JacquelynGill@spore.social
2023-04-14T15:59:57Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @anlomedad @davidho In my experience, and this is also supported by research, targeting corporations and decision-makers is far more effective. Giving the public a clear understanding of who the villains are, and how they can help, grows awareness. Creating solidarity with other groups grows movements. I'm personally interested in growing effective movements more than catharsis.Thanks for the thoughtful conversation.
(DIR) Post #AUhxIMU18Fht3J7xLc by breitensteinart@mastodon.art
2023-04-16T11:05:04Z
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@JacquelynGill @GwladysPendlebury @anlomedad @davidho Yes, Jacqueline, exactly. I’m older now, but I’ve been an activist all of my life. I see younger people today, making the same mistakes that my generation did, by talking about things in broad terms. The devil is in the details. Getting corporations to change sounds like a great idea, and maybe it’s feasible. (continued)
(DIR) Post #AUhxINKpxrxRh7q8g4 by breitensteinart@mastodon.art
2023-04-16T11:07:41Z
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@JacquelynGill @GwladysPendlebury @anlomedad @davidho But what I’d like to know is, how are people making local change, and then growing what they accomplished there? Changed consumption habits in the family, getting neighbors to change habits, communities, villages, towns, cities. Then counties, states. Frankly, I’m not hopeful at this point. (continued)
(DIR) Post #AUhxINqO4ZC9GybKr2 by breitensteinart@mastodon.art
2023-04-16T11:12:36Z
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@JacquelynGill @GwladysPendlebury @anlomedad @davidho The time to make these changes was 40 years ago in the 1980s. Except it was really in the 1930s, when the first climate change paper was written. But actually it was 50 years earlier, in the 1880s. We are now nearing 150 years too late. I’m afraid now it’s time to prepare for disaster and migration. Those in power have known the future and are amassing wealth for self-protection.
(DIR) Post #AUhxIOJSKURmj8CYAC by GwladysPendlebury@home.social
2023-04-16T11:20:24Z
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@breitensteinart @JacquelynGill @anlomedad @davidho Im sorry, but I f you’ve been an activist all your life and the situation is worse than when you started, you aren’t an expert, you are a failure. It’s time to reevaluate your methods, not discourage people from trying new ones and telling younger activists their methods won’t work.
(DIR) Post #AUhxUmy6UDIGfb7r96 by ML2@akkoma.sandhill.social
2023-04-16T11:24:58.581278Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @breitensteinart @JacquelynGill @anlomedad @davidho This. Absolutely this, particularly the second sentence.I should also add that it's generally easier for older people to throw in the towel on the future than for younger people to do so.
(DIR) Post #AUhy08ExRqGvcWxFfk by GwladysPendlebury@home.social
2023-04-14T16:35:55Z
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@JacquelynGill @anlomedad @davidho I agree, targeting corporations does work, and it has worked in the past. Strikes and walkouts work great, but that doesn’t work in the case of climate change, blm or abortion. Unfortunately monopolies, especially global ones and ones supported by several government can’t be targeted in the same way as a local and contained businesses.
(DIR) Post #AUhy08nhMg3rMHCzp2 by GwladysPendlebury@home.social
2023-04-14T16:45:32Z
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@JacquelynGill @anlomedad @davidho yes we can look to previous movements, and most of the big ones which overturned monarchies, obtained freedom from oppressive dictatorships, sought freedom from colonialialism all included protests, conflicted with police and/or military, and even heaven forbid, blocked roads. Of course there were conservative objections, demonization of protests and activism, because they don’t want to give up profit or power.
(DIR) Post #AUhy0D83GwicmYlJ6O by GwladysPendlebury@home.social
2023-04-14T17:04:43Z
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@JacquelynGill @anlomedad @davidho I find the ambulance argument to be insincere. There’s little concern over traffic jams blocking emergency vehicles, people dying b/c they can’t afford healthcare or private ambulance costs, but protesters in the streets are criticized for interrupting minor normal flow or the potential of inconvenience. There’s plenty of research on tribalism and political atrophy as well. Many theories can all be true at once.
(DIR) Post #AUiYWpbf0Rpjm0Bb4C by louisrcouture@jasette.facil.services
2023-04-16T12:48:09Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @breitensteinart @JacquelynGill @anlomedad @davidho There have been progress on climate change actually, there are many places with a carbon tax, and most government in the world want to push for a transition to renewable and electric cars it means it's working, but we need to keep going to push for things like public transit.Even if we admit there was no progress at all for the sake of the argument, that still doesn't mean your solution will be better.
(DIR) Post #AUiYhKBy915zWqAlu4 by ML2@akkoma.sandhill.social
2023-04-16T18:21:48.225167Z
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@louisrcouture @GwladysPendlebury @JacquelynGill @anlomedad @davidho This is another very good point.I should have been nicer towards @breitensteinart. I apologize for my tone towards her. I'm just dealing with outright doomists in other places (people who propose not doing anything at all because "it's too late") and I've gotten a short fuse on that subject.
(DIR) Post #AUiZkcK5I4q0aF6PYW by breitensteinart@mastodon.art
2023-04-16T18:32:34Z
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@ML2 @GwladysPendlebury @louisrcouture @davidho @anlomedad @JacquelynGill — Thanks. Here's what I learned from a prisoner of war who was held for several years with some of his troops: The pessimists died first, for lack of any hope. The optimists died second, for having their expectations for rescue/war ending "by X date" repeatedly dashed. The realists lived the longest, because while they hoped for rescue or the end of the war, they were also practical about the business of survival.
(DIR) Post #AUiaxbxs2A19BuTKVs by ML2@akkoma.sandhill.social
2023-04-16T18:46:10.159698Z
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@breitensteinart Makes sense. I try to be a realist on most things myself. It's partly why I'm choosing to stay where I am (my area is predicted to suffer a bit less from climate change than other parts of the country) rather than move out west or towards the coasts. It's also why I tend to seek out the writings and warnings of climate scientists (as opposed to denialists or in the case of the doomists I mentioned, listening to r/collapse.) I guess listening to too many people writing off young climate activists as "Disney princesses" or "astroturfed media darlings" has gotten me cross. Then again, I really haven't seen any of that mindset on the wider Fediverse, let alone Mastodon, so I should and will be more charitable here going forward. @GwladysPendlebury @louisrcouture @davidho @anlomedad @JacquelynGill
(DIR) Post #AUieCw220TvpdOPtw0 by breitensteinart@mastodon.art
2023-04-16T19:18:38Z
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@ML2 Good choice, staying put! Yes, we definitely tend to be nicer here. That said, there are folks here *on the same side* who still act holier than thou, who will judge your activism as not good enough for their standards, and they can be downright assholes about it. (I DON'T mean you!) Passing judgement for not being the "right kind" of activist is counterproductive to community and consensus building. In those cases, I liberally block people. No time for that nonsense.