Post AUcfbWZl3vsQtI06sK by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
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(DIR) Post #AUbebKQlvHC66zBFIm by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-04-13T10:20:43Z
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Couldn’t agree more with the sentiment and arguments here. The FSF is failing hard at making any impact on anything. https://drewdevault.com/2023/04/11/2023-04-11-The-FSF-is-dying.html
(DIR) Post #AUbebLKmZ1zsuhNybY by dick_turpin@mastodon.org.uk
2023-04-13T10:24:59Z
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@thelinuxEXP "It’s time for Richard Stallman to go"He did go, but the board brought him back again. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #AUbfkjFr65uLf77XPM by Little_Rascal@vmst.io
2023-04-13T10:37:55Z
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@dick_turpin @thelinuxEXP Uriel Septim really should have put a ban on necromancy.
(DIR) Post #AUblEPnMVmC3lelfUm by didek@101010.pl
2023-04-13T11:39:20Z
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@thelinuxEXP Sad. Because is there any other organization that cares about what software end users actually run, not only how it's developed?For example, almost all the web is based on open source libraries, frameworks, servers, browsers and overall software, but the actual code that reach end user they have to run in browsers is most of the time not open.FSF developed LibreJS, not ideal extention, but they are alone in that.Similiar problem with drivers.
(DIR) Post #AUbzrfxXkJ6SYI93p2 by geraldew@fosstodon.org
2023-04-13T10:55:43Z
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@thelinuxEXP Not a new point to make, but the FSF was based on a pre-Internet idea of how free software would be made. It matches how they've never embraced "social" development. At the risk of being glib, this is why I don't think it is possible to reform it into an organisation that does inherently understand openly collaborative development. That will require yet another structure/organisation/collaboration built by people from/of the new "dev" world. Perhaps a world one rather than American.
(DIR) Post #AUbzrgo0bF4RB0gxbE by didek@101010.pl
2023-04-13T14:23:17Z
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@geraldew @thelinuxEXP Their ideas are relevant regardless if the software is developed by one person for one client on CDs or developed by collaboration on Git repo.For "social" development there is already the "open source" movement, with it's own foundations.I think the problem is that open source first maybe started as an opposition, but FSF still can't see that today it should go hand in hand with them.FSF still opposes "free and open source" and can't realize now it means "freedom respecting and made by collaboration".
(DIR) Post #AUc0MxxGt9bFLEwEjo by Rekkert@mastodon.social
2023-04-13T11:05:41Z
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@thelinuxEXP Been using Linux for over 15 years, and to me the FSF always looked like our version of the Vatican: inflexible, conservative, full of old men, and deeply problematic.
(DIR) Post #AUc0Myong8Py1FyzAm by didek@101010.pl
2023-04-13T14:28:57Z
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@Rekkert @thelinuxEXP Computers did not change how they work since their creation. Now devices are faster, more advenced and reliable, but the basic principles and mathematical fundamets like Turing completness stayed the same.So how do they need to change? I'm sure they need to adjust their wording and presence to modern world, but what is wrong with their ideas?Deeply problematic? Trying to make moral changes will always be problematic.
(DIR) Post #AUc1b0cNsrSjbqQdHs by sylentpunk@freeradical.zone
2023-04-13T13:17:21Z
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@thelinuxEXP That's what I've been saying for a while. They don't do anything actually beneficial to software freedom and development, they just preach to eachother about how they're so "free" while blindly following the standards of an arbitrary organization.I can almost guarantee people like Mental Outlaw will just dismiss this, pointing some random sentence out like having a more diverse leadership and just be like "oMg Le sJw'S!!!" and never actually make any meaningful rebuttals.
(DIR) Post #AUc1b1TufqHSHrTNiq by didek@101010.pl
2023-04-13T14:42:40Z
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@sylentpunk @thelinuxEXP In the past created GNU.But today GNUNet, Taler, LibreJS are cool projects. Sure, almost zero adoption, but they are the only ones at least trying to make long-term freedom solution in spaces like fiat payments or web browsers.
(DIR) Post #AUc3JI3qUbUuP4x6NE by Rekkert@mastodon.social
2023-04-13T15:01:13Z
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@didek @thelinuxEXP The ideas and principles are good, no one's arguing that; but the FSF has been doing an absolutely terrible job championing them for years if not decades now.Technology doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's both affected by and a cause of societal change. And in all that change, the FSF became 'the old guard', no longer in favor of change but rather complaining when people don't do things "their way". A renewal is needed, and the FSF always resisted that.
(DIR) Post #AUc3Um832duuqIOVm4 by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-04-13T15:03:58Z
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@didek @Rekkert It’s not the ideas, it’s how they’re explained and defended. Instead of getting hung up on etymology and wording, maybe it’s time to actually try and make developers feel like free software is the way to go?I seriously can’t point at a single action they’ve done that has pushed free software towards more users or developers. Maybe it’s just me.
(DIR) Post #AUc5PZbSNsaySHnUdE by docRekd@hachyderm.io
2023-04-13T15:25:26Z
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@didek @Rekkert @thelinuxEXP Daily reminder that Richard Stallman is a sexist pig who has defended pedophiliahttps://www.wired.com/story/richard-stallman-and-the-fall-of-the-clueless-nerd/No wonder that an organization founded and headed by such a pos has no good impact on the world at large
(DIR) Post #AUc9uG0hgB4kU0Ucls by didek@101010.pl
2023-04-13T16:15:49Z
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@thelinuxEXP @Rekkert Can agree, presence need to be changed.They surely pushed free software for me. I started avoiding nonfree because of their explanation why it's wrong. But it was because of Stallman's TED talk and community, only this year I tried to read their badly presented website.For 3 years I was replacing software I use carefully one by one. Now I unironically run Parabola on computer and Trisquel on server.But if I would reach gnu.org website that 3 years ago and try to daily drive Parabola... Can only imagine my reaction.I think that starting with simple layout refresh would do them a huge difference.Four freedoms should be presented on main page, with nice graphics. Gnu.org should be now only about system, keeping moral things on fsf.org. Linux-libre distros and librebooted laptops should be showed like an end goal, not something to run now. What do you think?
(DIR) Post #AUcWSZU1z2BdiNyhGa by PublicLewdness@freespeechextremist.com
2023-04-13T20:28:33.933866Z
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@thelinuxEXP Many of the people in the FOSS ecosystem are making bigger impacts but the impacts are in the wrong direction. Many FOSS projects; groups and people are basically cheerleading closed source options and companies. The FSF is one of the few who stick to their guns and mandate. Could they be doing more ? Sure but so could everybody else. Take you for example who I have never seen post a non Youtube link to their videos even though you have FOSS alternatives.
(DIR) Post #AUcfbWZl3vsQtI06sK by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-04-13T22:10:30.272Z
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@PublicLewdness@freespeechextremist.com I remember he recently posted that if his entire audience switched to PeerTube he would go broke.
(DIR) Post #AUch4PUGb2hdG3ln9M by PublicLewdness@freespeechextremist.com
2023-04-13T22:27:27.257343Z
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@gabriel Then he is an idiot who has tied his entire revenue stream to Youtube. This is the person who should be telling the FSF how to run their foundation ? His audience could donate to an Open Collective; Liberapay; Ko-Fi; BMAC; etc while watching on Peertube or Odysee if he set it up.
(DIR) Post #AUcjVPoVgrdFzvF9TU by james@mk.starnix.network
2023-04-13T22:54:43.889Z
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@gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks @PublicLewdness@freespeechextremist.com Tells you a lot about the state of FOSS. Most people depend on revenue from big companies. And even if they supposedly switch to a free platform like the fediverse, like they did in November, they're gonna bring all their proprietary ideals with it too. The only solution would be a whole new economy of some sort in order to get total freedom, I suspect.
(DIR) Post #AUcjyaC6AumaaeBWFs by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-04-13T23:00:00.686Z
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@james@mk.starnix.network When it comes to the overall picture, @leo@social.synergetic-design.com has some pointed words about this.I honestly consider that the libre projects that are worth my time and my money are quite rare (I stopped counting the technical and philosophical disagreements I had with free software developers)no matter how much “librism” we put into IT, we will never be able to solve the problem of access to the materials composing the computers and thus the problem of hardware backdoorsFor what it's worth I hope he is wrong.https://synergeticdesign.substack.com/p/towards-an-analog-world
(DIR) Post #AUckyxz3pEeSKJpiwi by PublicLewdness@freespeechextremist.com
2023-04-13T23:11:17.436648Z
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@james @gabriel It's very true. I think the FSF pisses many of these people off because it reminds them of how much they themselves have sold out and they want to tear down the FSF and remake it into something more like the mainstream "FOSS" crowd that uses Discord; Reddit; Youtube; etc.