Post AURI7SyTyqbwRCwEoS by guidostevens@mastodon.green
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(DIR) Post #AUR4B5MwHwkH1iD2Uy by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-08T07:49:44Z
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Curious to see wether Twitter blocking Substack will spill over to how people think about Substack as well. I’ve always thought about the timeframe of the services I use. The more ephemeral, the more open am I to hosted/central solutions.Twitter has always been for real-time communication, where it would be fairly easy to move somewhere else. (👋 #Mastodon)Publishing a blog/newsletter is for the long run, and there #selfhosting makes much more sense, because you want control over time.
(DIR) Post #AUR4bEnZqsDtnk8hZQ by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-08T07:54:31Z
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Here are some more elaborate thinking on this, in the context of note-taking. https://myttl.blog/what-is-the-exit-plan-for-your-notes-2/
(DIR) Post #AUR8ccSxk2z1JLPZ6O by guidostevens@mastodon.green
2023-04-08T08:39:27Z
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@anders That's where org-roam in Emacs shines. Rich linking. Back references panel. Citation integration with Zotero via Bibtex. UI visualization. All with plain text files. And it's not just longevity you get with local text files: I can also easily batch edit (with sed) all notes when e.g. I want to change the linked path to my local Zotero storage.https://www.orgroam.com/#pkm #zettelkasten #emacs #gpl
(DIR) Post #AURBkE5yXFA7uCyhqS by alexl@pkm.social
2023-04-08T09:14:27Z
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@anders I 100% agree and indeed I took notes in plain Markdown for years, then started using #Logseq. But I want to move away from it and luckily I separated the information from the "UI" from the beginning, i.e. a portion of my graph contains the actual notes and the rest is convenient UI to browse them for example with live queries.Now I want to try to automatically turn my graph structure into folders+symlinks so that I can browse them with any file manager.
(DIR) Post #AURCvBEBdYDa9Sbd5s by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-08T09:27:43Z
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@alexl Funny thing is that I’ve moved to #Tana since I wrote that post. Tana doesn’t check many of the boxes I argue are important. But that move is a very deliberate decision. In Tana I’ve found a tool that fits my way of thinking in a way no other tool have so far. That’s a trade off I’m willing to do now, keeping fingers crossed for solid export functionality. My graph is downloadable in JSON, so worst case scenario is writing code to parse that.
(DIR) Post #AURD03z5zlBT8OsM8e by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-08T09:28:39Z
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@guidostevens Had a look at orgroam a long time ago, but had forgotten about it. Will have another look now. Thanks for the reminder!
(DIR) Post #AURD8iEuDCJQIeOYCG by guidostevens@mastodon.green
2023-04-08T09:30:07Z
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@anders I’m using it in Doom Emacs, that gives me a lot of integrations pre-configured.
(DIR) Post #AURDcMPPwQpPHVRtlA by alexl@pkm.social
2023-04-08T09:35:31Z
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@anders I understand, but then wouldn't your notes be structured in a way that makes sense only in Tana? I mean, you could parse the JSON but then how would you restore the functionalities? For example in Tana hashtags are uses to assign classes that are part of a schema with inheritance etc (don't mind my poor language).Do you maybe choose to adopt a functionality in Tana according to your ability to reproduce it elsewhere with reasonable effort?
(DIR) Post #AURI7SyTyqbwRCwEoS by guidostevens@mastodon.green
2023-04-08T10:25:55Z
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@anders The great thing about org-roam v2 is that its linking is based on org-id metadata, not on file names. Meaning you can rename and move files w/o breaking links; and you can start stubbing sub-items under a sub-header, then later extract it to a separate note.
(DIR) Post #AURLsOspJDGpDpMe36 by FTWynn@fosstodon.org
2023-04-08T11:08:00Z
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@anders @alexl > In Tana I’ve found a tool that fits my way of thinking in a way no other tool have so far. That’s a trade off I’m willing to do now, keeping fingers crossed for solid export functionality.Everyone is negotiable. I'm sure if another software package matched me in both brain lobes enough I'd do the same. I hope either the paper cuts come fast enough that leaving is easy, or that the export works out well enough someday.
(DIR) Post #AUROUEjXh3s4eiBue8 by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-08T11:37:18Z
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@FTWynn @alexl When I found a tool that was a so good fit to the way I think, it really came down to a negotiation: What so I value more, a tool that supports me here and now or a tool that caters for longevity. I went for output in the present, hoping portability can be solved if I need it.
(DIR) Post #AURP4rdMXZJfjBlXo8 by alexl@pkm.social
2023-04-08T11:43:52Z
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@anders @FTWynn Just in case you want to move away from Tana in the future, there is a plugin for Logseq called Powertags that basically copies Tana supertags. At the moment in Logseq there is no schema, types, inheritance etc but the devs published some work in that direction in a GitHub branch (no updates for some months though).I wonder if someone has already thought about a "org-tana" kinda like org-roam.
(DIR) Post #AURdCGq4crjtHk8ZNY by boris@toolsforthought.rocks
2023-04-08T14:22:04Z
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@anders the argument seems to be that you can take your email subscribers with you & export content. But I see so few people mapping a custom domain to Substack. What about all those inbound links & search???Also: many TFT adjacent folks have been curating elaborate threads on Twitter for years, so a big loss for them.
(DIR) Post #AURdiLfuBIQzYBg2Ai by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-08T14:27:55Z
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@boris Yeah, seems like many will have to rethink their strategies for how to publish and how to reach their audience in the coming months.
(DIR) Post #AURduVTvXsrnRNs7BQ by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-08T14:30:04Z
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@boris I am also a bit surprised that so little of my TFT related interactions have moved here. For other parts of my interest graph, I find pretty much what I need/want on Mastodon. But the high quality TFT content is not here, yet.
(DIR) Post #AUUuQWbH6UmIuvTgHI by boris@toolsforthought.rocks
2023-04-10T04:19:16Z
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@anders *ahem* 😉TFT is amazingly small. I mostly see people pimping their plugins, apps, and workflows. There are a rare few who have leaned into Twitter itself — threads spanning years — for whom it will be really hard.
(DIR) Post #AUUvkkJpuJyHD8WjsO by anders@thoresson.social
2023-04-10T04:34:13Z
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@boris Given all that’s happening in the TFT space, I would be really surprised if there won’t be good discussions on the topic here as well. Can’t see any reason why not. *fingers crossed*