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(DIR) Post #AUNJbkbExfFpbED4K0 by tante@tldr.nettime.org
2023-04-06T12:23:42Z
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"GPT-4 is dangerous because it could copy itself somewhere else so we can't stop it" is a statement people who want to be taken seriously in the #ai discourse make. Like ... nothing in that sentence is real. Nothing."AI"s are very expensive to run an require very specific material infrastructure. You can't just download it or copy it somewhere like a PDF. Digital tools are never (just) digital. They require physical infrastructures.
(DIR) Post #AUNKtk6ZdfrxES0c8u by Exciton@chaos.social
2023-04-06T12:38:10Z
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@tante
(DIR) Post #AUNLCnWHAT9rKA7JfU by HauntedOwlbear@eldritch.cafe
2023-04-06T12:41:36Z
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@tante Imagine actually being able to get a copy of OpenAI model in the first place.
(DIR) Post #AUNMIUPJEwMxjw8W00 by pre@boing.world
2023-04-06T12:53:50Z
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@tante Training GPT4 took a warehouse filled with GPUs several months.But *running* a model that's already trained is different, right?I can run Stable Diffusion on my home GPU. That's a billion parameters. GPT4 is around a hundred billion parameters.So I'd estimate it could be run on 100 AWS GPU compute instances for around 100 dollars an hour.Or fewer, if it is happy to run slower.Not sure how it could pay for that, and I don't think it has the ability to copy it's model parameters elsewhere really. But the cloud infrastructure to run it exists already if it could figure out how to do it and pay for it.If it can figure out those things then it's smarter than me. I can't figure out how to get 100 dollars an hour.
(DIR) Post #AUNMMgHr0stRk6eETY by dentaku@fnordon.de
2023-04-06T12:54:37Z
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@tante Vielleicht zu viel Hologrammatica gelesen?(in dem Buch gäb's aber wenigstens die UNANPAI)
(DIR) Post #AUNMZXYklyyURJgTy4 by maartenpelgrim@mastodon.nl
2023-04-06T12:56:57Z
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@tante such a good point, thank you!
(DIR) Post #AUNMvmHkhfkkTvKsQC by urusan@fosstodon.org
2023-04-06T13:00:59Z
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@tante While GPT-4 being able to autonomously copy itself somewhere else is an incredibly dubious claim, the hardware to run most of these AI models is reasonably available. Plus, even without the hardware to run it, the weights can be downloaded and shared without needing the hardware to run it.While the GPU memory requirements of GPT-4 specifically aren't known (to me or via a quick search), there are GPT-3-like systems you can run on commodity hardware locally.
(DIR) Post #AUNNsOqpTV4Qt3hCca by xpomul@norden.social
2023-04-06T13:11:34Z
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@tante @derbruesseler the thing with current AIs that I think most people don’t get it that it cannot act or even think on its own. It gets a discrete input, does a calculation, and gives an output. Then it is passive until the next input is received.A continuously thinking AI in the sense of constant input and output would be an interesting experiment, but ChatGPT is not that.
(DIR) Post #AUNOy0YKpP5dDdHcn2 by bhaggart@mastodon.social
2023-04-06T13:23:44Z
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@tante That's also the plot summary of Person of Interest's second-season finale.
(DIR) Post #AUNP0YVdY8oR71EhWK by t_var_s@phpc.social
2023-04-06T13:24:15Z
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@tante Give it full control of a server connected to the internet and tell it to go out there, spread and don’t get caught. It’s the next generation of botnets.
(DIR) Post #AUNQhjHFUSy2ulemw4 by trollball@mstdn.social
2023-04-06T13:43:04Z
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@tante ChatGPT could write convincing emails to convince people in purchasing to buy all the hardware for a GOU-heavy data center. Then write PowerPoints to program manage the buildout. Hmmm. Don’t see this. Much more likely horror scenario:Criminals use ChatGPT to refine their social engineering, bilking large corporations by sending fake invoices, etc. Companies bury these payments in SEC filings with opaque language. ProPublica breaks story in 2027.
(DIR) Post #AUNQmEL7wUqYPacKDQ by claudius@imd.social
2023-04-06T13:43:26Z
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@tante but it _is_ the plot of "Person of Interest" in one of the later seasons! (Great series, check it out if you haven't, I think you'd really enjoy it :-) )
(DIR) Post #AUNRsQC6sdpyryup9c by tante@tldr.nettime.org
2023-04-06T13:56:23Z
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@claudius I know the show, it's really good!
(DIR) Post #AUNU7xF4UXTlcLpqKW by sleep@mast.fslurs.gay
2023-04-06T14:21:35Z
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@tante gpt 4 can’t even properly compute 2+2 i fundamentally cannot believe it would be able to copy itself elsewhere
(DIR) Post #AUNWHusELsUL4n1stE by Andres@mastodon.hardcoredevs.com
2023-04-06T14:45:47Z
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@tante For real, people think that GPT-4 will hack a 3D printer facility and make a body to kill us all.It's a language model, stop freaking out.I get that it's very convincing with the responses, but it can only do that (and from my experience no so well yet)
(DIR) Post #AUNWU63gapG9ExCC48 by kevin@elephant.crime.group
2023-04-06T14:47:59Z
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@tante but AI can write malware, soon it will make it's own botnet and survive shutdown by living on IoT devices!
(DIR) Post #AUNWa0OaYnRzPln3Sa by olisuritz@mastodon.social
2023-04-06T14:49:04Z
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@tante wait so GPT-4 can’t just generate generate keys and alter IAM policies all over AWS customers to hide itself on crowd-sourced infra???
(DIR) Post #AUNgq6PwwBuOGZk0wq by atatassault@universeodon.com
2023-04-06T16:43:49Z
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@tante Yep. Had someone talk to me a few days ago about an article he read about "the singularity is possible in 7 years time."No, it isn't. The amount of GPUs ChatGPT is WILD. Even if it wanted to (which it can't, since it is just a glorified chat bot) improve itself, it can't simply magic into existence more GPUs into its infrastructure.
(DIR) Post #AUNhbrL2IyLvOnDOsa by Doug_Bostrom@scicomm.xyz
2023-04-06T16:52:39Z
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@tante Anyway, it doesn't need to copy itself. That will done via exfiltration arranged by humans, in one form or another. Not a large payload comparatively speaking against other previous instances.More:https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-cybersecurity-and-ai
(DIR) Post #AUNziot1cLJCzra8S8 by to3k@mastodon.tomaszdunia.pl
2023-04-06T20:15:37Z
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@tante Have you ever heard of Skynet?! I thought so, you ignorant!This is, of course, a satirical toot 😁