Post AUIl3GU7DSaRg6zAzQ by notabene@piaille.fr
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(DIR) Post #AUIgM67xRugFHpmaCu by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T06:44:47Z
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#Mastodon is far better than any microblogging service out there. It has all the features that many don't, for example content warnings, editing posts, high character count, post visibility settings per post etc... It's a dream as platform. However #UI-wise I think it still has long way to go. The current default UI feels old-ish and a bit clunky. Thankfully it can be improved by apps and UIs.Because Mastodon is #OpenSource, I've been able to make changes to my own instance. I've seen lots of different social media UI's since the times of Jaiku and there are good choices that have been forgotten. The hellsite got most of it right and it's been my inspiration in regards to user interface. As a designer and developer I create the UI improvements for myself that I think Mastodon is missing.Hence, the #MastodonBirdUI was born.There have been lots of suddle changes over the weeks in my instance. Let me present some of these. I'm quite proud of what I have achieved as a designer and developer. My instance is now top notch for me. There is always room for improvement, but it's already like 99.9% there.I just hope Mastodon itself will get even a pinch of these in the core, some day. Most notably the real numbers for OCD and neurodivergent people, free resizing of the compose box (#a11y), one level threads and if one can hope, a bit of white space and minimalism in the design.Get Mastodon Bird UI here: https://github.com/ronilaukkarinen/mastodon-bird-ui#UI #CSS #MastoAdmin #Accesibility #OCD #Perfectionism #Design #UIDesign
(DIR) Post #AUIhJTTWHo76mfBHMm by davidgarywood@social.davidgarywood.com
2023-04-04T06:55:47Z
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@rolle love it 😍
(DIR) Post #AUIhbXPgNoWqD601se by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
2023-04-04T06:59:04Z
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@rolle Currently, how does this compare to @elk?
(DIR) Post #AUIi1K7uPBPQX0yufo by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:03:45Z
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@atomicpoet Not much if you compare the UI, I've just selected each icon myself and done a bit of polishing here and there.The main difference: Elk is a separate web app in separate URL where everything has been built from the ground up using Mastodon API.Mine is just a CSS file on top of the original Mastodon. I like the polished functionality in the back end of the default Mastodon, I just wanted to make it look a bit better.@elk
(DIR) Post #AUIi2dF8ocK66tzKgy by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:04:01Z
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@davidgarywood Thanks Dave! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUIi7RuwLspCQppvDU by marcomezzavilla@mastodon.social
2023-04-04T07:04:47Z
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@rolle You have really done an excellent job; it is "small" changes like these that can make all the difference.
(DIR) Post #AUIi8YLBxIECdwdqZk by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
2023-04-04T07:04:57Z
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@rolle For what it's worth, I like the UI very much.
(DIR) Post #AUIiG0AAuXvaxZ2ZXs by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:06:23Z
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@marcomezzavilla Thank you Marco! :bunhdheart: Exactly, the small things matter.
(DIR) Post #AUIiHVSq1J7EKNUI2y by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:06:42Z
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@atomicpoet Thanks Chris! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUIig7TIMSCh9hRCca by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:11:06Z
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Eyyy I think I have done SOMETHING right. :blob_smile_sweat2: #Mastodon #MastodonBirdUI (Secretly proud)
(DIR) Post #AUIisrNbV93V0oqoQi by topher@mastodon.online
2023-04-04T07:13:21Z
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@rolle The vertical indicator line to distinguish threads is very nice and super helpful.I personally don't think looking aesthetically "modern" is (or should particularly be) a selling point for something. I hate most modern things and actually strongly prefer the traditional (non-rounded icons, overkill border-radius on everything, a hundred pixels of extra "breathing space" padding within a single viewport, so forth).Nevertheless, this is very nice and I appreciate it. It's super sleek.
(DIR) Post #AUIiu2hIuLBmP3d4ls by kepic@mk.nixnet.social
2023-04-04T07:12:39.463Z
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@rolle@mementomori.social Have you tried #Misskey?
(DIR) Post #AUIiu3mItEmZkqyaCe by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:13:27Z
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@kepic Haven't tried it but with a quick look it was too noisy for me.
(DIR) Post #AUIj2mtn13Du0jdhTs by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:15:13Z
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@topher Good points. I like old things as well, I use IRC. But there's a place for good user interface, too. White space doesn't mean the space is wasted, on the contrary. I'm not going to lecture you about UIs more, just saying the minimal way of doing things is usually the less distracting.In my opionion Mastodon doesn't need "selling points". I'm glad people can tinker their own solutions if they please. :thumbs_up_traditional:
(DIR) Post #AUIjEpWD6NDTbvLuwC by greenback@det.social
2023-04-04T07:17:22Z
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@rolle I read that Mastodon is currently hiring two full-time developers for improving the core UI, so if you're interested or know someone... :)
(DIR) Post #AUIjKf2cy6eAr0IP5M by kepic@mk.nixnet.social
2023-04-04T07:16:14.282Z
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@rolle@mementomori.social The UI is very customizable, and there are features that I think are far superior to #Mastodon, like reactions.But it's a smaller crowd using it. I'm just glad they're both on the #fediverse.
(DIR) Post #AUIjKfgKaUPEq8s6yG by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:18:26Z
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@kepic I personally prefer reactions in the instant messaging world like Slack, Discord etc. I find little worth in them in the microblogging platform. Noise like that is the reason I didn't choose Misskey. Mastodon's default things and UI were much more pleasing and it still offered way more than traditional social media services.
(DIR) Post #AUIjSTpyVbhkQD6eCO by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:19:48Z
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@greenback I personally have too much work with my own company, just doing this for fun as I love all things #CSS. :blob_smile_sweat2:
(DIR) Post #AUIjV3fuEiig9Jcria by greenback@det.social
2023-04-04T07:20:18Z
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@rolle ❤️
(DIR) Post #AUIk0h4rmwsTKbNzNY by topher@mastodon.online
2023-04-04T07:25:58Z
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@rolle Absolutely. One of the most wonderful aspects of all of this is that there's so much possibility for people to tweak and create custom experiences that ActivityPub with each other but offer a completely different UX and appeal far more suitably to different audiences. I can see what you put together as being perfect for people who like the Twitter experience and are on the fence about joining friends here, seeing that and realising just how seamless it can be for them. A HUGE audience
(DIR) Post #AUIk9abtCfgfsa4dqi by rstockm@openbiblio.social
2023-04-04T07:27:37Z
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+1 for circular avatar pictures by default - see #2 on my UX list:https://pad.wolkenbar.de/mastodon-gui
(DIR) Post #AUIkJ4QBjdhswZ7bFI by topher@mastodon.online
2023-04-04T07:29:17Z
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@rolle Also, to the contrary, you might be amazed at the lengths of time I would sit and listen and engage intently on discussions of UX and particularly UI. I have a lot of thoughts and dreams in that whole area and a massive void of understanding and supporting data behind why things have been moving in their current direction over the past few years. It's a lecture I'd likely thoroughly appreciate, enjoy and find valuable!
(DIR) Post #AUIkh2knaR9GioC2gC by ColonelDare@home.social
2023-04-04T07:33:41Z
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@rolle I know a _little_ about programming, not enough to contribute in any significant way, but I do know enough to appreciate the skill and effort put in by all you developers! Much appreciated, thank you.Maybe it's a bit like music, people's tastes vary and some discussion of 'likes' and styles is to the common good. Skill and Quality [CF Robert M Pirsig] can be celebrated by all.I watch Mastodon grow and mature - brilliant 🙂
(DIR) Post #AUIl3GU7DSaRg6zAzQ by notabene@piaille.fr
2023-04-04T07:37:41Z
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@rolle Intersting study.Funny that you mention the @/envelope dichotomy, as Mastodon originally used an envelope and then replaced it with an @. I guess it's a way to hint at the fact that messages are not encrypted and there is no guarantee no one can read them. (I personnally liked the envelope better too.)
(DIR) Post #AUIl5TYnZYjgoJELoG by michael@mstdn.thms.uk
2023-04-04T07:38:08Z
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@rolle Personally I love your UI!I implemented the larger link previews pretty much on day 1 of creating my instance, and always thought they make a huge difference.Implemented your reply lines too.I wish I could just apply your UI to my glitch-soc instance though! It's very very nice!
(DIR) Post #AUImvbQHgUMQCzfSvw by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T07:58:44Z
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@topher By no means I meant to belittle that! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUIn4WlKNimCMOla0e by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T08:00:20Z
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@notabene I understand the notion behind @, but public replies are also @. Its visual langauge is not clear. If we have other feeds and the textual label "Direct messages", the icon should also represent this.
(DIR) Post #AUInD5P1TRRg6zPlSq by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T08:01:54Z
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@michael Thank you Michael for the warm words. Great admin community we have here, it warms my heart. :bunhdheart: I wish I could implement these kind of things to other platforms and forks like glitch-soc but currently have to focus on the one thing I myself use and have the time for.Thanks for all the comments so far, they have been very helpful (I would not have noticed the conversation bug before you spotted it, for instance).
(DIR) Post #AUIo18ymRwnRgT0dVI by michael@mstdn.thms.uk
2023-04-04T08:10:52Z
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@rolle Oh, I sure didn't expect you to implement these changes for glitch-soc!I may, however, continue nicking the best (and easiest) pieces - probably starting with round avatars 😉
(DIR) Post #AUIoUZ5wQqJV4sO6ts by moopet@toot.cafe
2023-04-04T08:16:14Z
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@rolle I get confused by icons. They're bullet points, but since icons are generally poorly-coupled with their function I have no idea what's what.Why is "explore" a hash; what does that imply?Why is "federated timeline" Saturn instead of Earth?You leave the icons out under a post, which is great.You leave them in the sidebar is because there are a lot of stacked items. To me that means, "have fewer items", not "distinguish them with pictures";it's a problem of layout rather than theme.
(DIR) Post #AUIocj0nRcr29Rs98C by nemeciii@mastodon.social
2023-04-04T08:17:41Z
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@rolle hey, openly proud 🎉Don't be such a Finn toiling away in the back room.
(DIR) Post #AUIpF6k5fBe4kqMPWC by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T08:24:43Z
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@nemeciii Touché!
(DIR) Post #AUIpbGR8Iit7Bw3fjE by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T08:28:40Z
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@moopet Well, icons complement the labels. They have their place and each of them really mean something. Plain textual labels don't serve people suffering for dyslexia for example.Explore is a hash in the original UI as well and I kinda like it because there are hashtags and other stuff under it. It's also the choice the bird site and others have made. It makes sense.Federated: A planet represent federation as in "FediVERSE" as in universe.If you look at the original Mastodon UI, it has way more items (all the lists visible with the same icon etc) with less clear icons.
(DIR) Post #AUIpqOFtVtF1mi0wRE by jpahd@openbiblio.social
2023-04-04T08:31:12Z
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@rolle I actually think the UI is not bad per se. Just boring 😄
(DIR) Post #AUIqbWLxDwI2VfK2Yi by H0ffmann@mastodon.social
2023-04-04T08:39:54Z
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@rolle I like most of your changes, just one thing I keep beeing annoyed of. Can you keep the scrollbar the way it is*? I often search it on different sides, have a hard time hitting it and would like to keep it as big (and may be as clumsy) as it was.*(option to change it perhaps?)
(DIR) Post #AUIsjOH1LaNbfztXyy by notabene@piaille.fr
2023-04-04T09:03:42Z
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@rolle I agree 100%.
(DIR) Post #AUIt1QH0eOfP5iUKBM by rmattila74@mastodo.fi
2023-04-04T09:06:55Z
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@rolle Looks nice on 27" screen.
(DIR) Post #AUIvoeyGzcnGm1KWhc by vegos_f06@friendica.opensocial.space
2023-04-04T09:23:30Z
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@rolle For me Friendica is way better! But please stop this competitive behavior! It's called Fediverse, not Competiverse!
(DIR) Post #AUIvofUB50JYMyG0Qq by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T09:38:19Z
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@vegos_f06 I was comparing Mastodon to commercial centralized platforms, sorry for not being too clear about this. It's not competitive behavior, just facts in comparison.
(DIR) Post #AUIvwmBo2VUbTeWw88 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T09:39:50Z
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@rmattila74 :thumbs_up_traditional:
(DIR) Post #AUIwJ7qSClwx0nCSH2 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T09:43:50Z
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@H0ffmann It could be more noticeable at least, I agree. While I prefer it being out in the way (I use keyboard and scrol?) I understand it helps many. I'll think about it, thanks.
(DIR) Post #AUIx6xAo9kf2ORTpMO by Anelma@mastodontti.fi
2023-04-04T09:52:46Z
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@rolle Näyttää tosi hyvältä 👍🏻 Olispa noin fiksu !!
(DIR) Post #AUIy4zKPH1t0S2b344 by Boring@strangeobject.space
2023-04-04T10:03:36Z
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@rolle this is really good, thank you for your work
(DIR) Post #AUIyKZiEHQvFdfAiJM by rmattila74@mastodo.fi
2023-04-04T10:06:27Z
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@rolle I do have one accessibility wish though: It would be cool if composing of a new toot could somehow be restricted to the upper half of the screen to keep the cursor going behind the virtual keyboard.
(DIR) Post #AUIyTUbGemw8ODASjg by rmattila74@mastodo.fi
2023-04-04T10:08:05Z
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@rolle I do have one accessibility wish though: It would be cool if composing of a new toot could somehow be restricted to the upper half of the screen to keep the cursor from going behind the virtual keyboard.
(DIR) Post #AUJ3jQM4hu1XczTfd2 by DismalShadow@universeodon.com
2023-04-04T11:06:59Z
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@rolle Eugen bookmarking your #BirdUI toots
(DIR) Post #AUJ8QOt8R5WNLbgnjs by Squirrel@qoto.org
2023-04-04T11:59:31Z
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@rolle Personally i don't like using Twitter and Instagram's UI in Fediverse. But you did a great job with that, it looks great with Mastodon's icons and general theme. Also i think it's good for people who recently joined to Mastodon, it'll make it easier to get them use to Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #AUJ8gne49qkclNScwi by jimcarroll@futurist.info
2023-04-04T12:02:26Z
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@rolle You know, I had shit I had to get done today, and you come along with this!I wonder how long I can stay focused before I go to install it.#selfhost #Selfhosting
(DIR) Post #AUJ9CeFubTwMuOLizo by failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to
2023-04-04T12:08:20Z
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@rolle Isn't the lesson of Linux on teh desktop that choice and open source and new features is actually a bad idea ?
(DIR) Post #AUJAOEO8hfBM6zHiBU by FinchHaven@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-04-04T12:21:32Z
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@rolle You do realized that your graphic, when I full-size it in a desktop web browser, is covered and rendered unreadable by the size of your alt-text, right?Which will not go awayThis has been an interesting trend on #Mastodon:So many people must demonstrate themselves as allyies of some minority that the majority of viewers (and no, I don't have specific numbers for that 'minority' and 'majority') are prevented from seeing what the alt-text describesSo why not just skip the graphic?
(DIR) Post #AUJBGlAD3ryFOrlpNA by condalmo@mstdn.social
2023-04-04T12:31:20Z
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@rolle How does one try this out?
(DIR) Post #AUJDBHGezDBR8jIjaK by jcrabapple@dmv.community
2023-04-04T12:52:48Z
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@rolle I so wish I could implement this as the default on my instance, but a lot of my users use the multicolumn advanced UI.
(DIR) Post #AUJDkgcshEBlvHZySm by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T12:59:17Z
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@jcrabapple Multicolumn is something I'm interested in supporting in the future, needs a bit of thinking because I want to keep the same single CSS file structure. We'll see... maybe it's my next weekend project.The only "downside" is that I myself don't use advanced UI, it feels too "noisy" for me. My eyes can't really seem to focus while using it. Not using something I want to design myself is not an ideal situation.
(DIR) Post #AUJDvIWae482MJhF0i by jcrabapple@dmv.community
2023-04-04T12:58:28Z
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@rolle That reminds me of another thing I wish Mastodon had: more user-selectable themes besides just light, dark, and high contrast!
(DIR) Post #AUJDvJ7SQzcSCewgTY by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:01:10Z
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@jcrabapple There's been closed issues about this, I'm not sure what the status is right now: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/9919#issuecomment-1487257585
(DIR) Post #AUJEC9i4fhEfwY6fUe by jay@toot.zerojay.com
2023-04-04T13:04:07Z
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@rolle Ah, someone else that remembers Jaiku! Were you involved with Nokia's open source ventures back in the days of their Linux-based internet tablets? Felt like a lot of us on that platform together, so of course, also a lot of Finns.Glad to see you getting recognition for your efforts. You deserve it and hopefully some of these get to mainline.
(DIR) Post #AUJEPrbOnAx1pzWL68 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:06:43Z
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@condalmo Instructions for instance admins: https://github.com/ronilaukkarinen/mastodon-bird-ui#installation-for-mastodon-instance-adminsInstructions for regular users: https://github.com/ronilaukkarinen/mastodon-bird-ui#installation-for-regular-users-contributing-and-testing
(DIR) Post #AUJESAmgRdwhuOts2a by JackRS1@mastodon.social
2023-04-04T13:07:10Z
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@rolle looks beautiful, great work 🧙♂️🧑🎨
(DIR) Post #AUJErYGWHNSdyRxPQu by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:11:43Z
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@FinchHaven Alt text help the blind, graphics help the non-blind and ADHD people etc. What's wrong with that? Both can exist.
(DIR) Post #AUJEsVrmgTKGp6qVCy by FinchHaven@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-04-04T12:29:07Z
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@rolle Brave web browser on Ubuntu LinuxViz:
(DIR) Post #AUJEsWPSfGGSVYbOhU by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:11:55Z
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@FinchHaven Looking good to me.
(DIR) Post #AUJF4VuKMDQqQRl2Su by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:14:07Z
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@jimcarroll Haha :blob_smile_sweat: Sorry!
(DIR) Post #AUJF6HDDxsJVQcRAYK by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:14:26Z
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@Squirrel :thumbs_up_traditional:
(DIR) Post #AUJFIBbWdoG7VhTztI by 2beFlo@poststoffarm.de
2023-04-04T13:16:30Z
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@rolle The UI with your CSSis stunning! Thanks a lot for that <3
(DIR) Post #AUJFIr2YaDF81PRfDU by notabene@piaille.fr
2023-04-04T11:50:52Z
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@rolle If it helps BTW I created a different visual style for direct messages.For my default white background, I give DMs a slight grey background. It's better than nothing and all that I can do without spending hours analysing the code and pushing issues. Lazy me 😉 ```.status__wrapper-direct, .detailed-status-direct { background: #ccccccb0 !important; }```
(DIR) Post #AUJFIrciPmANpYMXZo by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:16:41Z
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@notabene In my UI there's this small marker in the corner for dms.I have hover/focus background colors so having one in the private messages would be distracting, it would look like it's "focused".
(DIR) Post #AUJFTdtpmQm2S5Ve08 by Sampei@m.lanciano.it
2023-04-04T09:28:50Z
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@michael Hi i also said some days ago to @rolle that he did a really great work on it! But some of my user prefer to have the default navigation to the right, so the best would be to have the user that can switch themes, I will look at this!I've also implemented the large link preview and some hashtag and mentions highlight, i love yours lines reply, can you help me understand witch css part it is to to have it done? Thank you!! 😊
(DIR) Post #AUJFTedv15dYl14Rpg by michael@mstdn.thms.uk
2023-04-04T09:51:10Z
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@Sampei Have a look at this diff: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/compare/main...ronilaukkarinen:mastodon:feat-thread-lines@rolle
(DIR) Post #AUJFTfEmo17ybMJtIW by Sampei@m.lanciano.it
2023-04-04T10:03:09Z
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@michael thanks michael, so this is not css only, i'll look at it thank you very much @rolle
(DIR) Post #AUJFTfsUQOt2aUtbBQ by Sampei@m.lanciano.it
2023-04-04T10:53:11Z
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@michael just to clear, have you switched yours instances on the main branch? Because i'm on the 4.1.1 tag and it seems to me that in the meantime app/javascript/mastodon/features/status/index.js was renamed in app/javascript/mastodon/features/status/index.jsxWhat i'm missing? Thank you @rolle
(DIR) Post #AUJFTgVq46MWYXJ1W4 by michael@mstdn.thms.uk
2023-04-04T11:03:56Z
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@Sampei I'm not using mainline mastodon, but glitch-soc, so I had to port those changes elsewhere, so I cannot comment, sorry.@rolle
(DIR) Post #AUJFTh12C7Je7Htw8m by Sampei@m.lanciano.it
2023-04-04T11:08:49Z
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@michael no problem thank you! @rolle
(DIR) Post #AUJFThVsLRzBewKZDE by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:18:35Z
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@Sampei @michael I was wonderng the same thing but js and jsx are practically the same thing. I suspect some part in the building process changes it in some point.
(DIR) Post #AUJFtOpoPhSxG4uTx2 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:23:17Z
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@rmattila74 I'm not sure what you mean? The location of the compose box is exactly the same than in the original UI. It's hard to move to anywhere else from this structure. :thinking_rotate:
(DIR) Post #AUJFvD9Aq5VBaYpWgC by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:23:38Z
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@Boring Thanks and you're welcome! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUJFz5pJztou2mOZhA by FinchHaven@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-04-04T13:24:10Z
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@rolle You seemed to have missed my pointWhy bother with your graphic if I can't see it?
(DIR) Post #AUJG06ST8RyQI9BiK0 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:24:26Z
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@Sampei Yeah the thread part had to be modified to the core... the default styles don't have the lines but with modification it'll work. It's all in the repo. @michael
(DIR) Post #AUJG1lIQmm93EqHeTY by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:24:47Z
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@Anelma Kiitti! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUJGWAE0fLdtEziEmu by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:30:16Z
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@FinchHaven So what are you accusing me of exactly? Your tone doesn't sound very supporting.What is who trying to prove?I don't understand your reaction.
(DIR) Post #AUJGXYtSQzte2RlYKe by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:30:32Z
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@2beFlo Thank you for the feedback! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUJGd5sFF1jNm0pvYu by rmattila74@mastodo.fi
2023-04-04T13:31:27Z
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@rolle Same problem with the original UI. Was just thinking if it would be possible to reduce the max height of the text box before it starts to scroll.
(DIR) Post #AUJGhW4nlMa6CIopAu by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:32:23Z
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@JackRS1 Thanks! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUJH39XuDBf0gtkVDU by nm@veganism.social
2023-04-04T13:36:12Z
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@rolle Awesome! We just installed this on Veganism Social.
(DIR) Post #AUJHFzQf8Ypt4wTxRI by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:38:34Z
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@rmattila74 Oh you mean it would be in the "fixed" position? That could be achieved with styles only... I should try it. Can you take a screen cap or a screenshot of the situation where it is wrong so I can test it better? Thanks!
(DIR) Post #AUJHJehAAPujvqwqAq by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:39:11Z
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@nm Nice! So glad you like it! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUJHmwp5qZIEYKcoeu by Sampei@m.lanciano.it
2023-04-04T13:44:23Z
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@rolle so your instance is on the main branch? @michael
(DIR) Post #AUJHrcEFqK8e83cUV6 by FinchHaven@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-04-04T13:45:12Z
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@rolle "accused" is an inappropriate pejorative hereI've repeatedly said that I don't understand the usage of alt-text blocks that are so long as to cover/conceal the underlying graphic that that alt-text is intended to explainAnd that are sometimes longer than the entire text body of the post to which they're attachedAnd I asked why people in general (and you specifically, with an example, attached) do thisYou have yet to respond to my question and my pointGood day, sir/EOF
(DIR) Post #AUJHsqmbDWljYaGzaK by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:45:23Z
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@Sampei @michael mastodon@mementomori:~/live$ git statusHEAD detached at v4.1.1
(DIR) Post #AUJI3wbjtusao8U2Ay by notabene@piaille.fr
2023-04-04T13:47:30Z
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@rolle Ohhh, that's a good idea!
(DIR) Post #AUJIIIvLj5O84gVGIy by rmattila74@mastodo.fi
2023-04-04T13:50:03Z
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@rolle I wrote: "I am typing a response but the textbox keeps expanding."Could not see the two lowermost lines.
(DIR) Post #AUJIbqRpJFvDY60nYW by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:53:43Z
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@FinchHaven And I have answered that both exist for reason. Why I do this? I personally think every image that has text should have alt text equivalent for the text in the image. The textual version has the same points than in the visual graphic. Why the alt text shows as tooltip on your device is not my concern.Why I do this? I see, hence the visual graphic. My wife is blind, hence the textual representation. Both are happy.We clearly don't understand each other and your lecture makes me very anxious, so I'm not going to continue this discussion. Have a nice day you, too.
(DIR) Post #AUJJ6iEBvAHR24Lw24 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T13:59:17Z
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@rmattila74 Thanks! I'll try and fix this today. I'll let you know.
(DIR) Post #AUJLoh1tw9rNxxhgLA by michael@mstdn.thms.uk
2023-04-04T14:29:33Z
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@rolle I managed to do it 🎉 I do think I'll adjust the background colour of the compose box though - it's too easy to miss 😊
(DIR) Post #AUJSkQAdNOeMCPhMQa by mookie@trblcorp.com
2023-04-04T15:47:10Z
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@rolle Thanks for this. I've been running it since you added a light theme to it. It makes my Mastodon web experience so much better!
(DIR) Post #AUJU6sAg3Dp9MnzKQy by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T16:02:31Z
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@michael Awesome! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUJUEjouz2NbmdYqGm by hybridhavoc@darkfriend.social
2023-04-04T15:06:16Z
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@jcrabapple I was wondering what this must look like for the advanced UI. Any changes I make to CSS I always have to remember to go have a look at that, to make sure it doesn’t look super weird suddenly.cc: @rolle
(DIR) Post #AUJUEkHzExdFEnA3Zw by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T16:03:55Z
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@hybridhavoc @jcrabapple My UI is currently designed only for single column layout. All modifications are prefixed with `.layout-single-column`. So it won't be effective in the advanced UI. That would be a completely new project and right now I'm not going to do it :blob_smile_sweat: Perhaps in the future.
(DIR) Post #AUJUJOYxRgKdIpJg12 by jcrabapple@dmv.community
2023-04-04T16:04:34Z
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@rolle @hybridhavoc oh so if I implement this on my instance, it won't affect people who use multi-column?
(DIR) Post #AUJUPJW97J9DONp75M by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T16:05:55Z
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@mookie :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AUJUSd0j68PsiahviC by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T16:06:29Z
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@jcrabapple Correct. It should not change it in any way! Only single column layout is affected. @hybridhavoc
(DIR) Post #AUJVVzIYn0JEfIDO4G by eckes@zusammenkunft.net
2023-04-04T16:18:16Z
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@rolle and search is missing
(DIR) Post #AUJVnVw8h5FcoX5KXA by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T16:21:29Z
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@eckes What do you mean? The search is there.
(DIR) Post #AUJVvXmRitOsqgNcZ6 by Meema1616@universeodon.com
2023-04-04T16:22:54Z
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@rolle rule one: Subtle not suddle. Thank you for listening.
(DIR) Post #AUJWAVcy0fDeW159d2 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T16:25:38Z
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@Meema1616 Yeah... I was not going to fix some typos and spam a lot of people boosting/faving this post but now I just had to do it... :blob_sweat:
(DIR) Post #AUJaaZds6cIAJQBo7U by Meema1616@universeodon.com
2023-04-04T17:15:09Z
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@rolle ❤️
(DIR) Post #AUJbn3b2f5xmdwNkqe by leadore@toot.cafe
2023-04-04T17:28:34Z
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@rolle Looks nice but a couple comments:- The label used to be "Direct message" with an envelope icon, but it was changed to "Mentioned people only" with the @ icon, because people complained that it was unclear that anyone who was @-ed in the post would also receive it. So how it is now is a deliberate design fix.If this is meant for mouse (not touchscreen) users, a minimal scrollbar is IMO bad a11y. I've had to hack scrollbars widths to be usable ever since those became popular.1/2
(DIR) Post #AUJc1GBeeC89kKHQ5g by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T17:31:07Z
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@leadore I like the envelope better. An for the scrollbar, I agree, I should revise it.
(DIR) Post #AUJcIbo7W4e5ivXonI by leadore@toot.cafe
2023-04-04T17:34:06Z
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@rolle Not showing the actual number of replies and boosts (unless post is opened) was also a deliberate design decision that was discussed in the community. There are lots of threads on this that can explain it better than I can here, but basically it's to avoid the tendency that people look first at how "popular" a post is before reading it and engaging, and are influenced by that in a way that encourages some undesirable SM behaviors.2/2
(DIR) Post #AUJcZ1C2tr4F5dYmmW by leadore@toot.cafe
2023-04-04T17:37:17Z
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@rolle Yeah, I'm not telling you what to do, just giving feedback on the history of why the envelope icon was changed to the @ icon. There was plenty of discussion about it in the community, which is how lots of decisions get (or used to get) made here.
(DIR) Post #AUJctRDvpSoLc6BAUC by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T17:40:51Z
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@leadore I know, I have actually looked for them in the issues from the past on the GitHub repo. Some parts I agree upon, some disagree. Glad there's this freedom to make your own choices as well. This is why I originally started to do this CSS mod of mine.
(DIR) Post #AUJd1HowfnBuldEaeW by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T17:42:22Z
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@leadore I have taken a good look of this rationale, but I disagree with it for the most part, especially with the parts that show numbers but won't show them all or completely. There is no consistency and it causes anxiety for certain group of people who ocd over numbers.
(DIR) Post #AUJidVxz1koxPlVfBQ by vesperto@gladtech.social
2023-04-04T18:45:16Z
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@rolle@claudiom Microblogging and high character count are opposites (and threading is just doctorowing it).
(DIR) Post #AUJkdtNoAIDfwptfUW by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T19:07:46Z
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@rmattila74 Looked into this. I'm not sure what the max-height would be in pixels. Isn't the box getting too low in height if we set max-height to it. It can be difficult to get it to expand freely yet having a max height.I could set the max-height only to those situation when screen is too narrow vertically. But pixels and resolutions would help. How big portion does the keyboard get overall? Half?
(DIR) Post #AUJlFzGijM0dCqkMN6 by rmattila74@mastodo.fi
2023-04-04T19:14:30Z
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@rolle 1/3. 6 lines off.
(DIR) Post #AUJpGxVJB1Tlq6HyAC by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T19:59:43Z
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@rmattila74 I have attempted a fix in the newest version 1.4.0rc3. I hope it works!
(DIR) Post #AUJtys5D5niDaKHBku by eckes@zusammenkunft.net
2023-04-04T20:52:25Z
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@rolle sure, but does it find new things (for that matter even old ones)
(DIR) Post #AUJvcs8kOq9TIcZJGC by rmattila74@mastodo.fi
2023-04-04T21:10:52Z
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@rolle Works perfectly. Thank you!
(DIR) Post #AUK2aeorec6h5O9wW0 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-04-04T22:28:56Z
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@rmattila74 Thanks for testing, you're welcome! :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AVNNCW7OcVXrWdUw7c by og@allthingstech.social
2023-05-06T10:55:44Z
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@rolle I couldn't agree more with this post. #MastodonBirdUI
(DIR) Post #AVNNHISYpWLwbzg1Cq by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-06T10:56:47Z
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@og :bunhdheart:
(DIR) Post #AVNNLNJ4kc5snqBW2y by og@allthingstech.social
2023-05-06T10:57:38Z
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@rolle Hey hope you are doing well over there
(DIR) Post #AVNNSTfdULa2ZE7kIa by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-06T10:58:56Z
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@og I'll manage. Thanks Stu.
(DIR) Post #AVNPa4yXO7dQCYiY0u by og@allthingstech.social
2023-05-06T11:22:34Z
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@rolle welcome
(DIR) Post #AVNQ5JnALmTD8DIJiC by avatastic@avatastic.uk
2023-05-06T11:28:18Z
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@rolle Great work. This may be enough to get me off the advanced interface and back to the simple.I like the advanced interface, but I'm only using it for the default columns so I'm not using it to it's fullest.
(DIR) Post #AVNQASByXvGWdFLcX2 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-06T11:29:16Z
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@avatastic Thanks! Yeah, for me advanced view is too noisy. Can't help it.
(DIR) Post #AVOe8IlgCt3dLBsNKi by avatastic@avatastic.uk
2023-05-07T01:40:27Z
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@rolle I have a request, if you're taking them?
(DIR) Post #AVPHjD1ERQS2R9jwmm by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-07T09:04:08Z
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@avatastic What do you have in mind?
(DIR) Post #AVQIauvU7UoD7RccMq by avatastic@avatastic.uk
2023-05-07T20:48:13Z
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@rolle I think it's a personal preference more than anything, and it deviates from the bird site, but having the colour of the active column as --color-accent rather than --color-light-text (ref: .layout-single-column .column-link--transparent.active, line 1655-1658) seems more natural to me.
(DIR) Post #AVQLxak9cnHL2vpFx2 by rolle@mementomori.social
2023-05-07T21:26:05Z
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@avatastic I'm on the phone now so I'm not sure what you are referring to but if I recall correctly column-link is the side link. The active column link already has a background color so no other color is needed. I think the accent color should be used soaringly and it's too strong in that context.