Post AUFhEnhubPbudILdsu by Marcducharme@mstdn.ca
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(DIR) Post #AUEq56eg0MvgvqKKoK by tante@tldr.nettime.org
2023-04-02T10:15:11Z
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How much you claim a profession's job can be automated (though AI) is inversely proportional to how much you respect the profession and the people in it. A lot of the time you just reveal who you respect and who you don't.
(DIR) Post #AUEqbVrvnQFEOiymtE by bithive@social.tchncs.de
2023-04-02T10:21:04Z
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@tante is a profession respected because of the (good) work that is done in the profession?Consider this: Journalists can be replaced by AI.But only: if they only rephrase press release.Programmers will be obsolete.But only: if they just write boilerplate all day.Conclusion: the baseline for effort in a profession reached a new baseline. Some might perform below this line. This people are neither respect nor will they continue to have work.
(DIR) Post #AUF5lUprzVxROxEYKW by fsinn@mas.to
2023-04-02T13:10:57Z
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@tante I had thought it reflected how little they understand of that profession, but I think you've nailed it here.
(DIR) Post #AUF7pB1bmwtd1hbhdw by rupertcutler@mindly.social
2023-04-02T13:34:01Z
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@tante ah but then there’s IPA, Institute of Professional AIs, available on tap at your local pub.
(DIR) Post #AUF8FcbPsWP85NxwVU by logoninternet@mastodon.social
2023-04-02T13:38:48Z
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@tante yup. https://mastodon.social/@logoninternet/110033651438686691
(DIR) Post #AUF8HMzwrkCQGkH3js by cwebber@octodon.social
2023-04-02T13:38:53Z
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@tante automate away the CEO
(DIR) Post #AUF96NjJu9IVJ7owSG by freequaybuoy@mastodon.green
2023-04-02T13:48:18Z
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@tante And how much you actually know about the profession.
(DIR) Post #AUF9uBoOUSBwp5wb5M by ketmorco@fosstodon.org
2023-04-02T13:57:15Z
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@tante most C-level execs would probably be improved by being replaced by an AI
(DIR) Post #AUFCQCdX9u22YYG0bg by maxpool@mathstodon.xyz
2023-04-02T14:25:30Z
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@tante I disagree. I suspect automation decreases quality for many tasks https://mathstodon.xyz/@maxpool/110129012922968201AI is replacing people by doing it order of magnitudes cheaper, not by providing better quality or service.
(DIR) Post #AUFDC0hwoSifSZ7Nzc by marchuff@mastodon.social
2023-04-02T14:34:10Z
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@tante ai will never replace maga's . ai uses logic and facts.
(DIR) Post #AUFDxlAJu0C99j9qAS by bettybarcode@urbanists.social
2023-04-02T14:42:46Z
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@tante I bet we'll never see economists arguing that AI can replace economists.
(DIR) Post #AUFEwMsApucLThZPcm by dada87@social.cologne
2023-04-02T14:53:44Z
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@tante ich bin safe, meine Profession wird eh von niemandem wirklich ernst genommen und kommt den Genies daher bei der Debatte gar nicht erst in den Sinn...
(DIR) Post #AUFFE7tfFt0MF9jeIy by UndamnedOne@mastodon.online
2023-04-02T14:56:56Z
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@tante Kind of like how much parents seem to be claiming lately they know the curriculum their child needs better than the child's Master Degreed, professionally developed teacher does. At least, I think there's a parallel there...
(DIR) Post #AUFIk0VIZrKGRZERLU by mishi@kolektiva.social
2023-04-02T15:36:14Z
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@tante I will walk out of a store before i do self check-out. I respect all workers, & all jobs.
(DIR) Post #AUFPv6SdT8FvmeDyTo by flarion@mastodon.online
2023-04-02T16:56:42Z
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@tante also: Dunning Kruger.
(DIR) Post #AUFQJ9An2KuJ94LHAO by grrrr_shark@supervolcano.angryshark.eu
2023-04-02T17:01:01Z
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@tante even if it's your own profession.My experience so far is that the software engineers who think AI will take over programming are the ones who are not very sophisticated or good.
(DIR) Post #AUFRRjo6ocV92EOSzg by walruslifestyle@octodon.social
2023-04-02T17:13:50Z
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@tante "automatable by AI" is code for "targets (of the class war)".pay close attention to how quickly software developers became targets.
(DIR) Post #AUFRkFYtUWS6jU6Wf2 by dx@social.ridetrans.it
2023-04-02T17:17:12Z
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@tante There’s some truth to that, but maybe there’s more nuance? I think a lot of the work that could be automated through “AI” is what I’d call “white collar drudgery” — mindless repetitive computer tasks. I don’t think it’s a lack of respect for people stuck doing such boring work to say that work could be automated.
(DIR) Post #AUFSbIR9X3WgzumHiq by mcole@hachyderm.io
2023-04-02T17:26:48Z
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@tante not the ease of simplicity of doing so like using a spatula or dipping food into a fryer for ‘x’ time?
(DIR) Post #AUFTI0YTtMmdzSZWmO by smicur@mastodon.gamedev.place
2023-04-02T17:34:26Z
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@tante the ability to automate is objective. Respect is subjective. I can claim factual things and still be respectful.I'm a coder and I can understand how certain parts, even if a small portion, can be automated.ChatGPT has already done some heavy lifting for me.I agree the notion respect is crucial, but it shouldn't collide with facts
(DIR) Post #AUFTnSzsCDLnB6NwCe by aparrish@friend.camp
2023-04-02T17:40:10Z
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@tante @thierna not restricted to AI—think about how software engineering from its very beginning has been an attempt to automate secretarial/administrative work (or, more boldly: women's work in general)
(DIR) Post #AUFbYbx9PlEOFDXU2a by Victang@defcon.social
2023-04-02T19:07:08Z
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@tante You say that as if it is a fact. You'd fit in well at FOX.
(DIR) Post #AUFhEnhubPbudILdsu by Marcducharme@mstdn.ca
2023-04-02T20:10:44Z
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@tante this is simplistic and dangerous thinking. In my jurisdiction, if you’re a tax lawyer, a significant part of your job has already been automated by a company selling legal opinions to order for about five years now. Their opinions at launch had a 95% success rate. In my own area of law (family) I predicted that I’d have about thirty years before most of my job got automated. 11 years in and I still think I was right.
(DIR) Post #AUFqapulyVtBRAwhhw by atatassault@universeodon.com
2023-04-02T21:55:37Z
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@tante Not necessarily. I'm concerned for certain doctors BECAUSE I care for them. Many whose practice is 80%+ diagnosing are in real danger of being replaced by a robot, because eventually, robots will be better at correlating symptoms with causes, because the robot can compare to the data of millions of previous patients in real time.
(DIR) Post #AUG0WuUvzYD42Fcv0S by junhong_xiao@mastodon.oeru.org
2023-04-02T23:46:59Z
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@tante Absolutely!
(DIR) Post #AUG7nBzhPNbybxjBJI by inthehands@hachyderm.io
2023-04-03T01:08:22Z
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@tante 1000x boost
(DIR) Post #AUG8lUFCgT4GaVjLRQ by pH_0x05@infosec.exchange
2023-04-03T01:19:17Z
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@tante waiting for the moment AI replaces politicians.oh wait, is that a profession?
(DIR) Post #AUH9kBbQnk5Fax1yF6 by lclapp@tty0.social
2023-04-03T13:04:57Z
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@tante Spammers and scammers, then. Some politicians.Heck, for some of them you barely need AI, just fill in the blanks."$GROUP_I_WANT_YOU_TO_HATE is coming for your $TREASURED _POSSESSION! Only I can stop them! ..."
(DIR) Post #AUIbdLl25dviunSzce by Gorba@mastodon.social
2023-04-04T05:52:09Z
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@tante I’m not sure which or how many jobs can be replaced by AI. What I am fairly certain of is the AI thingies we are seeing right now are pretty much like the first attempts at cars which were also laughed at.We don’t see to many horse drawn carriages anymore, and the need for stables has gone way down since then.
(DIR) Post #AUKtssevGPakOTWIMK by wooliex@mastodon.social
2023-04-05T08:26:04Z
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@tante Ironically, the first job that will be seriously challenged by AI will be Computer Science Professor.
(DIR) Post #AULdX3fOFklO3OGr4K by TheSteve0@data-folks.masto.host
2023-04-05T16:57:18Z
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@tante The corollary to this is:Therefore we see how much Silicon Valley Bros think they are better than the rest of humanity.
(DIR) Post #AULrdXbpEtIa0xaZrE by BobCollins@fosstodon.org
2023-04-05T19:35:34Z
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@tante We have been automating human work forever. Whether it's a horse and plow for farming or computer diagnostics for medicine.It isn't about respect. For humans it's about being adaptable in an ever changing world.
(DIR) Post #AULu0S1cMlkDGThmZE by PJ_Evans@mastodon.social
2023-04-05T20:02:07Z
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@tante And how little you may know about the job.
(DIR) Post #AULwnFGEoNurm7wEC0 by crispinb@fosstodon.org
2023-04-05T20:33:24Z
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@tante That might explain why it seems obvious to me that all marketing and business people (suits in general in fact) will probably be replaced en masse by about next Thursday.
(DIR) Post #AUYEluEL1Y34qL6Mts by adamgreenfield@social.coop
2023-04-11T18:51:18Z
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@tante Not at all the case. As I’ve been at pains to argue for quite some time, it’s the people whose work I respect most whose viability I have the greatest fear for.
(DIR) Post #AYpz6gQEugHDHgit9M by Zipper730@mastodon.social
2023-08-17T23:49:02Z
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@tante Kind of true!