Post AU9xMYOXqlYhmFFTYO by sullybiker@sully.site
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(DIR) Post #AU9ul585Un28OBYTWi by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:14:08Z
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On Linux and conflating the tool with the work of the tool. https://media.sully.site/the-tool-as-the-work/ #linux
(DIR) Post #AU9untdIhDO9bNUrKq by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:14:40Z
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My autocorrect was obsessed with changing 'distro' to 'bistro' so there's probably still some in there I didn't catch
(DIR) Post #AU9vJBtgq7DFE05LDk by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:20:13Z
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@sullybiker i am just absolutely in love with the fact that you categorize slackware as a “mid-2000s” thing, never change. ;d i associate it with like, 1993 and floppy disks. wikipedia says, and i think this is true, that the “slack” is regarding the maintainer’s effort toward the distro. he still does just random releases to this day, has no bug tracker or central source repo.
(DIR) Post #AU9vQx9bXSkDoeELJ2 by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:21:44Z
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@justizin Not me! someone on Reddit wrote that bit!
(DIR) Post #AU9vfAGpZJ02YBO3No by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:24:17Z
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@sullybiker ah okay anyway it amused the living shit out of me in the best possible way. :D
(DIR) Post #AU9vmCFqadHCjOHQNk by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:20:49Z
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@sullybiker jokes aside tho i’m glad to see folks newer to the game running the gamut. slackware is most like BSD IIRC, you can get some binary software, but generally are encouraged to compile everything from source. there is an understanding of the system and confidence in what you have that comes from that.
(DIR) Post #AU9vmCnAajvoOjs2K0 by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:21:15Z
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@sullybiker i think in honor of your post i’m going to spin up a slackware vm. :D
(DIR) Post #AU9vmDEovw37mUo7Q8 by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:25:33Z
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@justizin The only non-standard thing I really like is sbopkg, provides a curses interface to the slackbuild repo with queuing and just enough automation to really speed complex packages up.
(DIR) Post #AU9vqSB1KkHPGs3IVk by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:26:19Z
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@sullybiker sounds neat! i honestly have not touched it in over 20y i am eager to see what’s up.
(DIR) Post #AU9vuzJw31NNDtNsv2 by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:27:09Z
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@justizin I've found snaps and Flatpak have made me very lazy, so I try to avoid them now, as much as I can.
(DIR) Post #AU9w7hpkNJ2QkkKPuC by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:29:26Z
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@sullybiker i’m fine with being lazy, i think when you want to get things done, its great to get things done. my team supports the base images for probably a couplefew hundred containers at work, some build environments, etc…i’m probably better at supporting ubuntu and alpine bc of the time i have spent hand crafting bespoke OS installs.
(DIR) Post #AU9wOoS11dU0CONwie by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:32:33Z
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@justizin It's a shame some shops don't encouraging packaging anymore, like Plex and occasionally the devs bundle a better package in their flatpack repos which isn't feature matched by the maintainers of distros.
(DIR) Post #AU9wXWkSDF5ftxAIQi by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:30:19Z
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@sullybiker Linux From Scratch was an *incredible* resource, I also havent touched that in decades, but it seems to still be chuggin along.
(DIR) Post #AU9wXXHQEfShYCacoi by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:34:07Z
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@justizin It's been an inspiration in Slackware Multilib, that much I do know
(DIR) Post #AU9wXZR4DmMiEh7M80 by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:30:53Z
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@sullybiker compiling your linker from source will really get the ol bones shakin ;)
(DIR) Post #AU9wcOQiZEkLYCFnay by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:35:00Z
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@justizin KISS is cool too, I liked the clear-headed philosophy behind it.
(DIR) Post #AU9wdGiIk4thuMtbV2 by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:35:09Z
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@sullybiker most distros are maintained by volunteers except for internet servers and basic system utilities. as the developer of a package like plex, you can reach a much broader audience with something like flatpack or whatever.personally, i’ve taken to building my own custom docker images for more and more of the software i use, i blow a bunch of my systems away frequently and i get nice isolation. if i want to use something that only works with a newer or older ubuntu, i can!
(DIR) Post #AU9wfTt0jlrpLFxaiG by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:35:29Z
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@sullybiker just like, the unix philosophy KISS, or something specifically slackwarey?
(DIR) Post #AU9wlfxYlHfiWZ2e7E by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:36:40Z
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@justizin Oh sorry, it's an actual project! https://kisslinux.org
(DIR) Post #AU9wvuVrVXp2YXxzbU by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:38:32Z
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@justizin I had a lot of fun with it, but lost a lot of time screwing about with the kernel config because Kiss encourages everything in kernel (no initramfs although it's optional) and it's a job to get the storage stack behaving
(DIR) Post #AU9x1FCpzyHMBObyPA by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:39:28Z
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@sullybiker yah i remember those days on like my 486 and p166 being like, “oh it’s more efficient to build everything statically and have no modules” and now i think it would take a monumental effort to measure any difference.
(DIR) Post #AU9xMYOXqlYhmFFTYO by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:43:20Z
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@justizin I enjoyed things like busybox init and learning to get along with Sway which is pretty awesome once you figure it all out. I noted in the blog post though that even the creator of Kiss provides a flatpak build script which amused me no end, but he really dislikes dbus (so no bluetooth and some other limitations.) It's a nice exercise though.
(DIR) Post #AU9yZoRNbUHXGEScm8 by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:56:56Z
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@justizin I dread to think about a build now with a P166. It would be all night!
(DIR) Post #AU9ydKWCnNfpcKOYYy by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:57:32Z
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@sullybiker it was a much smaller kernel, but a couple hours was not uncommon IIRC.
(DIR) Post #AU9ynKOA8HdK6vOt6W by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T01:59:23Z
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@justizin I remember when Gentoo started providing binaries for things like Firefox and Chromium because people were just *over it*
(DIR) Post #AU9yrvcXeBTek3JtaK by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T02:00:11Z
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@sullybiker yeah lol, “got a new water cooled rig to build firefox once a week” 🤣🤣
(DIR) Post #AU9yyvABkIflLnONe4 by justizin@hachyderm.io
2023-03-31T01:59:35Z
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@sullybiker build time was ANOTHER reason to be super picky. i had a .config i carried around between machines that i spent many hours in menuconfig / test builds getting to a satisfactory place.i was in menuconfig recently and i swear there are things that have been deprecated for over 25 years.
(DIR) Post #AU9yyvm7TH0vFR8flg by sullybiker@sully.site
2023-03-31T02:01:28Z
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@justizin A few years back I used to use Slackware's config and suddenly the number of options after makeoldconfig (I think??) rocketed upwards so much I just chose the option to accept all defaults