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(DIR) Post #AU7dsri3dfgGJs8T7Q by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-29T22:55:23Z
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Good morning, Yokohama! Sixth day of #IETF116. Packed program for me, with #DNS, regext (#EPP and #RDAP), quantum stuff, rasprg (data about #IETF activity), etc.https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/116/
(DIR) Post #AU7m3dWlVVrV9YV6hs by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T00:27:01Z
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Let's start with dnsop: everything #DNS https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/116/materials/agenda-116-dnsop-04#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU7o8iOf1xcbbxG8fY by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T00:50:19Z
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First, something not #DNS: #GNS, the GNU Name System, an alternative to DNS, to fight censorship and provide privacy.Debian packages at https://deb.taler.net/In the future .alt TLD, it will be gns.alt..fr has been imported into GNS :-) #IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU7p3RAlk3FWhKoCnY by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T01:00:37Z
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May be #GNS will be published as a RFC in the independant stream but it is not decided yet.
(DIR) Post #AU7prLo5xv6iXH0IeO by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T01:09:32Z
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Now, draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error, a proposal to encode the reasons a lying #DNS resolver lied, in the hope it will be displayed to the user. (Redirecting to a Web page does not work, for instance if the HTTP connection was HTTPS.)JSON in the DNS response :-( #IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU7qc4NgZYKS6HvcBs by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T01:18:05Z
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Demo of an implementation at Vodafone/Akamai. (With a Google Chrome plugin and DoH to the resolver.)#IETF116 #DNS
(DIR) Post #AU7r1XliRmlUU4JbMm by GyrosGeier@hachyderm.io
2023-03-30T01:22:02Z
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@bortzmeyer @mutax why not an ASN.1 encoded OID as the reason?
(DIR) Post #AU7r3LGjtKXEIQgRdI by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T01:22:12Z
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Then, draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques, on the techniques to prove you control a domain. See examples at https://botsin.space/@DNSresolver/110109609312588843
(DIR) Post #AU7r5Nn1UTE4h2l0Rk by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T01:22:34Z
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@GyrosGeier @mutax Troll detected, account blocked.
(DIR) Post #AU7ro6WEY8Sq9zEFlY by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T01:31:29Z
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#DNSSEC "black lies" renamed "compact answers". "White lies" remain white?#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU7s20XnYntvgSafse by paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange
2023-03-30T01:34:03Z
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@bortzmeyer black lies == trash compacter answerswhite lies == washer answers:)
(DIR) Post #AU7s9IIrvkWsn358Ma by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T01:35:14Z
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Blaks lies, unlike white lies, have never been standardized in a RFC. Time to do it? draft-huque-dnsop-compact-liesThere are many questions, specially since they suppress NXDOMAIN (every negative is now NODATA).
(DIR) Post #AU7sm0wCQg1oE1wQs4 by paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange
2023-03-30T01:42:23Z
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@bortzmeyer definitely time to standardize it.it's in the wild in wild spread use and the assumptions built into the original NSEC/NSEC3 are no longer the case for much large scale DNS.
(DIR) Post #AU7yDNEq7irMylWenI by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T02:43:04Z
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Now, let's go quantum with the talk on "Quantum Internet".#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU7yM95m5WqNiBT6Bs by BillJelavich@hachyderm.io
2023-03-30T02:44:56Z
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@bortzmeyer thanks for this stephane!
(DIR) Post #AU7ya9OZl1dKhqwN0K by sergedroz@infosec.exchange
2023-03-30T02:47:28Z
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@bortzmeyer so, is it there?
(DIR) Post #AU7yqKNWgrl7P3AC7U by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T02:50:21Z
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RFC 9340 summarizes what is "Quantum Internet". The goal is to be able to run distributed quantum applications.Basic building block: entanglement (of qubits)#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU7yttItIOMiafh74q by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T02:50:41Z
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@sergedroz There are test beds (for instance in Japan).
(DIR) Post #AU7z3J3qtpL3599LiS by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T02:52:38Z
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Analog -> Digital -> Quantum. From waves to bits then to superposition of states.#progress #IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU7z7XemZiYTVYRXea by sergedroz@infosec.exchange
2023-03-30T02:53:33Z
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@bortzmeyer so, what is a Quantum Internet?
(DIR) Post #AU7zAz5P39PTRnXJDc by DalzAsylum@framapiaf.org
2023-03-30T02:53:44Z
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@bortzmeyer j’étais pas prêt.
(DIR) Post #AU7zTzBUuOERFpRoGW by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T02:57:31Z
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Alice and Bob are entangled.
(DIR) Post #AU7ztVPMEtJcQw6DVQ by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:02:04Z
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Alice and Bob are entangled.
(DIR) Post #AU800qGv49v1AWeP1U by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:03:32Z
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@sergedroz A link between quantum computers, preserving their quantum properties.
(DIR) Post #AU803r0km36EKXWdHs by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:04:05Z
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@DalzAsylum Tout est quantique.
(DIR) Post #AU80ATwivZ5Kp3niZE by DalzAsylum@framapiaf.org
2023-03-30T03:05:16Z
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@bortzmeyer par définition. Mais l’utilisation de propriété quantité c’est une autre paire de manche du très peu que j’en sache sur le sujet ^_^
(DIR) Post #AU80WLODQBC2ei5J2W by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:09:07Z
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One day, quantum data centers?
(DIR) Post #AU80a0icDXOHhiNIqu by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:09:35Z
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On attend les photos de @ataxyanetwork dans son datacenter quantique.
(DIR) Post #AU80gH7AAdZMICqNyy by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
2023-03-30T03:10:34Z
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@bortzmeyer Simultenaously being up and down ?
(DIR) Post #AU80iPcFX8rrEqP4lM by paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange
2023-03-30T03:10:09Z
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@bortzmeyer should work fine. if you need a reliable build up of entropy, a data center is a perfect place to find it. ;)
(DIR) Post #AU80vsWnLneAfjH0gi by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:13:45Z
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Today, we have quantum repeating (so we can carry the quantum state on some distance) but not yet "real" quantum networks. #IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU81UuLYa3DoRqihii by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:20:02Z
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Making the entanglement is itself distributed quantum computation. Every node has to participate. The quantum Internet will be more circuit than datagram.[Funny note: when you create entanglements, you need to create a lot of them since using them - in a quantum computation - destroys them.]Routing will be fun, you have to take into account if the link is "good" or "bad" (noisy).#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU81s6zfj1kEKgY2tM by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:24:18Z
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Currently, all the work is done on simulators (we don't have quantum networks) such as QuISP. https://aqua.sfc.wide.ad.jp/quisp_website/An important achievement: icons for networks schemas https://github.com/sfc-aqua/quisp/tree/master/Network%20icons
(DIR) Post #AU82WftFOtyU93svY0 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:31:21Z
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But there is a japanese quantum test bed, made of four nodes.
(DIR) Post #AU82dwezRrXwBRgPRI by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:32:52Z
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Soon, the book, under a free licence https://github.com/sfc-aqua/Overview-of-Quantum-Communications-EAnd the videos: https://www.youtube.com/@QuantumCommEdu#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU82zYxmEYmL3kmKlE by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T03:36:26Z
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"There is a magic word we did not say yet: teleportation"
(DIR) Post #AU84vxC2PBAExQr7Fg by sergedroz@infosec.exchange
2023-03-30T03:58:32Z
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@bortzmeyer Thanks, now I can place it. I'm a bit weary of the "Quantum Something" wave. I've seen such test beads at the IBM Rüschlikon lab. There the topic flies under "Quantum Transduction". Greetings from Tokyo ;-)
(DIR) Post #AU85SACnYrM4a5ZQBs by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:03:48Z
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Now, the RASP research group: data about the #IETF processes.#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU85WMenD0EeMCfRvE by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:04:27Z
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@sergedroz Is this wave better than the "AI wave" or the "Blockchain wave"? :-)
(DIR) Post #AU86F8EBhcP8dZZOrI by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:13:05Z
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Corinne Cath speaking "The hard work of the hum: using ethnography to study power & politics in the #IETF"Spoiler: IETF does not work in practice as it does in theory#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU86dd5AdakrHU29C4 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:17:38Z
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"I'm an anthropologist""What are you doing here in the #IETF? Are you lost?"#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU87QD75yhyKvg6DMe by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:26:20Z
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Example of study of rituals (rituals are not just in remote islands but also at #IETF): the hum.Since it is "anonymous", it also obfuscates the corporate affiliation.#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU88S4F81rlZx3J224 by sphcow@mas.to
2023-03-30T04:37:49Z
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@bortzmeyer Interesting that some people argue that is good, and others can argue that it is bad.
(DIR) Post #AU88Vfv0PQlbfVc7lY by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:38:37Z
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@sphcow People disagree. It is proof that #IETF is open and inclusive :-)
(DIR) Post #AU88foAea8Qk9tlULQ by sphcow@mas.to
2023-03-30T04:40:24Z
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@bortzmeyer I was also interested in the chat that the IETF doesn't need NGO participation; NGO's need to do more to attract technologists.
(DIR) Post #AU88sME5n3SHFrMDia by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:40:34Z
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Now, McQuistin on some data about the standardization process. 32 % of RFC have errata, 7 % of the errata are filed within 30 days. reviews could be more thorough.#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU89RF6QGfXLIRP8Yy by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T04:48:57Z
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https://ietf-annotation.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/html/reviewer-tool.html for recommendations on draft reviewing. (Currently ot of order)
(DIR) Post #AU8CjgFYND6UZE9u1g by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T05:25:40Z
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#LLM for standards discours analysis: even the IETF uses GPT-3.#IETF116
(DIR) Post #AU8G3juilBiPaKffJA by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-03-30T06:03:11Z
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Registration Extensions working group. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/116/materials/agenda-116-regext-03#IETF116 #EPP #RDAP
(DIR) Post #AU8GHpkJsAi7jAWhRA by shaft@piaille.fr
2023-03-30T06:05:50Z
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@bortzmeyer JSON in... nani ?!! 🤨🤨
(DIR) Post #AU8JjEJAxVcvaSaLYG by f4grx@mastodon.social
2023-03-30T06:44:24Z
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@bortzmeyer um wat?
(DIR) Post #AU8etIZ2V0scGOyK6S by lieter@mastodon.lieter.nl
2023-03-30T10:41:27Z
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@bortzmeyer Let's be honest, how much worse is it compared to unstructured freeform text in DNS responses?