Post AU70dHX9xdWFZAcHSa by chrishazfun@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AU6xL9V6mzu9ZqJwAa by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T14:58:31Z
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And here's what's causing my anxiety about joining a #PeerTube instance for my music stuff. I sift through and find an instance that fits my needs, head to the "About" page and see this: HOW LONG WE PLAN TO MAINTAIN THIS INSTANCE"Currently plan to run this instance for the next year or so at least, depending on usage and financials."I would assist with those financials, but it still doesn't fill me with any confidence that it's going to stick around...
(DIR) Post #AU6xkf10kvpIYcPEtU by lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
2023-03-29T15:02:55Z
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@killyourfm What we really need to happen for #peertube is affordable hosted options, so they can be easier to set up and maintained by a community, much like #mastodon instances are becoming right now.Or, if you prefer, treat a peertube instance like a personal space/website where users host their own content and simply federate with trusted instances to create hubs.My 2 cents
(DIR) Post #AU6xx9lCGyfTNzy3LE by hearsepileup@metalhead.club
2023-03-29T15:05:00Z
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@killyourfm Yeah, I definitely understand this worry. Maybe it's a good opportunity to lean harder into the 'peer' part of the tech. If peertube instances were more like access points for a torrent-style network it would lower hosting fees and add resilience. Video is one of those areas that is just punitively difficult to host.
(DIR) Post #AU6ytdVdpAjMRmZpVg by AdamBishop@floss.social
2023-03-29T15:16:01Z
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@killyourfm My thinking is that you should firstly host your own content on your own website, and then disseminate it out from there. If your external "sharing and discoverability network" goes down, accessibility to your content is always guaranteed. Syndicate out the discoverability, in-house the source of truth. Does that make any sense?
(DIR) Post #AU70dHX9xdWFZAcHSa by chrishazfun@mstdn.social
2023-03-29T15:35:30Z
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@killyourfm I'd just set up a personal one at that point, it'd integrate the same right?
(DIR) Post #AU70opyuE59FaZ6Y76 by zleap@qoto.org
2023-03-29T15:37:56Z
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@lps @killyourfm Agreed :)
(DIR) Post #AU70sgx3jygGk34wuu by TrechNex@masto.ai
2023-03-29T15:38:21Z
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@killyourfm that’s the economics of distributing video, unfortunately. :(Web Torrent is good, but it still relies on servers transcoding content and viewers using a compatible JavaScript client.A safer solution would perhaps be to host your videos on a static HTML page with an RSS feed, then use other services for discoverability.(You can also create ActivityPub posts from that RSS feed if you can afford the bandwidth requirements of doing so if those posts go viral)
(DIR) Post #AU72e2p0LUnM8RSFf6 by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T15:58:22Z
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@zleap Agreed as well. A valuable 2 cents, @lps. And if I could do a one-click install on Digital Ocean or Linode, they'd have my money right now.
(DIR) Post #AU72kz5sbVnAbIenfE by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T15:59:21Z
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@chrishazfun I'm not confident in my technical chops to do that, nor do I want to spend the time managing it.
(DIR) Post #AU72wC4Uh4dm2GM0Ui by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:00:50Z
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@AdamBishop 🤔 It DOES make sense... But how does one host GBs of video data on a cheap self-hosted wordpress site without a) going broke doing it and b) providing viewers anything resembling decent download speed?
(DIR) Post #AU73eJxKjyb1EM2vBY by lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
2023-03-29T16:09:13Z
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@killyourfm @zleap This is on the right track, but still involves a few clicks;)https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/cloudronand cloudron.io then gives you the ability to one-click install #peertube https://www.cloudron.io/pricing.htmlhttps://www.cloudron.io/store/org.joinpeertube.cloudronapp.htmlI can't vouch for the process, but it seems possibleIf you ever do it, I would recommend NOT federating, which only means that you don't get a stream of undesirable content on your instance, but people can subscribe to you, and you can follow other creators:)
(DIR) Post #AU74xX3SMcCdJOdPGK by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:22:33Z
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@lps @zleap You're a hero. Thanks for this suggestion. I think I'll give this process a try!
(DIR) Post #AU75hQCiAP3TNxqTAm by bashfulrobot@hachyderm.io
2023-03-29T16:31:03Z
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@killyourfm @AdamBishop It's kind of one or the other, especially if you have a global audience and want to look into CDNs, etc. There is a reason people offload the "video" portion to something like youtube via embedded players. I used to have to do this for a snowboard brand pre-youtube (adoption) days, and even then, the $ was not small. But with that said, I have not evaluated costs in recent history. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(DIR) Post #AU76V15xnLlhzVL04W by RyunoKi@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:38:44Z
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@killyourfmConvince your employer to set up an instance 😬
(DIR) Post #AU76xoMgCmkuuFt3Ro by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:43:16Z
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@RyunoKi It's for personal use.
(DIR) Post #AU770uqQZOdNs7HWTI by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:44:16Z
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@bashfulrobot @AdamBishop Thanks guys. I'm just gonna go create a Cloudron install on Linode, and then install their PeerTube app and see what happens. LIVING DANGEROUSLY!
(DIR) Post #AU774tBsf3xnttD840 by RyunoKi@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:47:03Z
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@killyourfm🤔
(DIR) Post #AU776QKgvQSUyj40UC by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:47:55Z
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@RyunoKi It's all good! I'm exploring installing Cloudron within a Linode, then using that to one-click install PeerTube to an existing domain. Fingers crossed...
(DIR) Post #AU77I746O4yGhDsUme by lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
2023-03-29T16:49:33Z
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@killyourfm @zleap best of luck, I'd love to hear how/if it works...I'm sure the rest of the #fediverse would as well:)
(DIR) Post #AU77a2tad1IEydVnma by darth@silversword.online
2023-03-29T16:52:26Z
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@killyourfm @RyunoKi I have had this message on my about page since day one and yet I got 100+ users who are okay with it or did not read it. I don't know what to tell you on your initial post except that it's difficult to predict the future. I do not plan to finance this server for others. I can moderate pro bono, but my users are paying for it. As long as enough of them are paying, so I can pick the minimum usable hosting tier, this server will stay afloat.
(DIR) Post #AU77qAb3lOeZUkX7jc by AdamBishop@floss.social
2023-03-29T16:54:53Z
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@killyourfm I'm certainly no expert in this, I'm just thinking aloud. I realise that it's a question of scalability - the more videos you have and the more viewers you have, the faster downloads you need, the more it costs, and the more it is potentially monetisable. But it's the same problem for any host. You can only scale to what you can afford. Perhaps slightly lower quality vids, fewer vids, only the last four vids hosted at a time, a rotation of vids (this week's vid from the archive)?
(DIR) Post #AU77rEsjJk0J4fJARM by killyourfm@layer8.space
2023-03-29T16:55:25Z
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@lps @zleap This was SURPRISINGLY easy! I'll have a longer report once I get it all configured.
(DIR) Post #AU77uxMSOsRdtSz9hw by lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
2023-03-29T16:57:16Z
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@killyourfm @zleap WHAT!!!! That was amazingly fast, ha ha!
(DIR) Post #AU78P2xU9dDLwNeYqm by RyunoKi@layer8.space
2023-03-29T17:01:33Z
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@killyourfmLet me know how it goes!I'm aware of Yunohost and Sandstorm in terms of Fediverse.Personally I look into hosting within Europe (mainly because data protection levels. And the hope of not having secret agencies doing stuff on those machines).Signed up with @Stuxhost (Netherlands) but am confused by their tiers.So haven't progressed much here.Guess, I'll end up with a Hetzner VPS some day.
(DIR) Post #AU7G2fDOYBW1Z2vtOS by zleap@qoto.org
2023-03-29T18:28:30Z
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@killyourfm @lps Perhaps what is needed is a pre made Raspberry Pi and or other image with dependencies set up, boot up, answer a few questions and ready to go. This is beyond my technical ability but it would mean documentation could be written to support that set up too.
(DIR) Post #AU7Glv6gJPQBsnN9V2 by lps@masto.1146.nohost.me
2023-03-29T18:36:38Z
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@zleap @killyourfm For anyone that is interested #yunohost is essentially that. https://yunohost.org/#/A headless Debian ISO that can be installed on an old PC, Raspberry Pi, or VPS which even dummies like me could figure out;) They even provide you with a free subdomain!Once installed, if you're hosting at home, you just need to open a few ports, and you're good to go:)It acts as a base platform for a whole host of one click apps, but the library is truly staggering in its size.
(DIR) Post #AU8fgvKZ9ebOgYriEq by utzer@social.yl.ms
2023-03-29T21:58:17Z
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@lps @killyourfm @zleap and just because @lps didn't clearly mention it, they have peertube in their list of applications.https://yunohost.org/de/app_peertubeAnd here for RaspberryPi:https://yunohost.org/en/install/hardware:rpi2plusAlso make sure to install Peertube on its own subdomain or domain, one that you own.