Post AU5NtQ1a4OFFA8abw0 by oldmantoast@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #AU5MLPFEMYzkwaBxE8 by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:29:31Z
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Hmm.. So the leader of Wagner Group was called 'Wagner' when he was in the Russian army'Wagner' was the musical composer of Hitler..That's why Wagner Group is called that.. Who are the nazi's now..
(DIR) Post #AU5MV15F338auC6OP2 by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:31:14Z
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Jevgeni Prigozjin is literary a Hitler fan :amaze:
(DIR) Post #AU5MVbA6uQQGniemzQ by nafnlaus@fosstodon.org
2023-03-28T20:31:21Z
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@stux Former leader. Utkin, not Prigozhin.Utkin wasn't exactly subtle; he had an SS tattoo.
(DIR) Post #AU5MZKeEFalqk1WbVQ by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:32:09Z
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@nafnlaus ooh! Dayum
(DIR) Post #AU5MnP8WMJ82iUP6mm by nafnlaus@fosstodon.org
2023-03-28T20:34:39Z
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@stux Tall scary-looking guy to the far right of Putin.Wagner was pretty small back then, and not very militarily significant. It's grown dramatically under Prigozhin.
(DIR) Post #AU5Mo6JJq2JecQmq5Q by wvrede@mastodon.social
2023-03-28T20:34:47Z
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@stux Not to diminish on the Wagners group evil nature, or deny that nazi's loved Wagners music, but Wagner the composer died 6 years before Hitler was born....
(DIR) Post #AU5ModI3DluSu3RnBw by justafrog@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:34:57Z
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@stux Basically, the Russian government's only line of defense there is "We are not Germany".For some reason, that doesn't get a lot of traction outside of Russia.
(DIR) Post #AU5MredSfx9Fwbu21g by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:35:27Z
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@nafnlaus yesss i meant him indeed! Holy hell.. what a monster
(DIR) Post #AU5Mw0UxKem2uQ03Fo by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:36:14Z
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@wvrede It's more the fact that he kinda liked him because he was the favo composer of Hitler 😉 I dont know a thing about Wagner himself
(DIR) Post #AU5N12YH7moWj3x6kC by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:37:09Z
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@justafrog Like with many things, they make up their own defenition of words..
(DIR) Post #AU5NWGkcNn1ZjycIlc by nus@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:42:49Z
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@stux remember when Alex Dugin's daughter got car bombed? She was chief editor at the Wagner-run "United World International" propaganda site.
(DIR) Post #AU5Nfaqd23GmfzsGNk by havhingstor@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:44:30Z
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@stux Richard Wagner was before Hitler, he died in 1883. I think he was quite antisemitic, but so was the society. His music did however feature many references to the model ages and old German tales, which (combined with the fact that his descendant were devoted nazis) lead to Hitler being invested in the Bayreuth Festivals and visiting them quite often.I don’t know if the music itself is that problematic, though and I think the Festival now tries to be apolitical.
(DIR) Post #AU5NnvVE7cLJ3KpyIi by ElGriego@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:45:55Z
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@stux Paar weken geleden weidde Zembla een aflevering aan de Wagner groep en diens oprichter Utkin. Misschien kun je die nog ergens terug vinden op NPO start.
(DIR) Post #AU5NtQ1a4OFFA8abw0 by oldmantoast@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:47:00Z
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@stux lol, did you steal content from https://mstdn.social/@lowqualityfacts?
(DIR) Post #AU5NzjOSy7sOyLIuOG by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:48:04Z
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@oldmantoast i did not! :ed_grin: @arjenlubach learned me this!
(DIR) Post #AU5O6QRJpzkCDMpXxA by sortius@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:49:21Z
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@stux I think the Nazi tattoos on Prigozhin's body gave that one away
(DIR) Post #AU5OB3ibk36VC67uFM by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T20:50:10Z
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@sortius I learned that later.. :amaze: holy shit
(DIR) Post #AU5OCRivyaSrw0wNhA by stib@aus.social
2023-03-28T20:50:26Z
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@stuxYou know the music that the air cavalry in Apocalypse Now blast from loudspeakers in the helicopters? That's Wagner. The nazis liked him, but they liked Beethoven too. He was problematic, but calling him "the composer of Hitler" is a tad inaccurate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn37QfXw1-E@wvrede
(DIR) Post #AU5PM3RlBythUV3MLw by beisbolcards@mastodon.world
2023-03-28T21:03:22Z
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@stux A fitting Waterloo for the Wagnershttps://youtu.be/Bd5FkBwOfZU
(DIR) Post #AU5PQ39EFHQniqI3to by sortius@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T21:04:08Z
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@stux yeh, say what you will about Azov Battalion, but their leader doesn't look like this 😬
(DIR) Post #AU5QrxiO8dWqw1bqZE by voron@mstdn.party
2023-03-28T21:20:20Z
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@stux logic, unfortunately, is a poor weapon when fighting propaganda & mass marketing which relies on:1) Repetition 2) short catchy talking points3) Repetition 4) emotion5) Repetition 6) group identity bias 7) Repetition