Post AU4GdyjENbLPKBjkyu by h4890@liberdon.com
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(DIR) Post #AU2kJ162zNd6tdPU36 by 48kRAM@oldbytes.space
2023-03-27T14:10:06Z
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1990s web experience- Open site in browser - Watch framework of site gradually appear- Start reading site text- View images once they load- Click a hyperlink to more information on the thing you're looking for2020s web experience- Open site in browser- Wait for Cloudflare to verify you aren't a bot- Wait for background movie to load- Dismiss cookie popup- Decline to subscribe to their mailing list- Decline to speak to a chatbot that promises it's a human- Scroll infinitely looking for the information you want that's probably not there since it's all generated text intended for other robots to read anyway
(DIR) Post #AU2mt3SnrjJMZSMl2O by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-27T14:42:59Z
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@48kRAM ahhhh true!!
(DIR) Post #AU2opl6ZriOWflWgQy by Abby@boks.moe
2023-03-27T14:53:39.110101Z
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@48kRAM - have all the content and links constantly shift around as things load so you accidentally click on some scam ad that takes over your browser
(DIR) Post #AU2qMqxZDcUGLCejxY by wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo
2023-03-27T15:22:22.124063Z
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@Abby @48kRAM 2030s web experienceOpen site in state-approved browser, on state-approved deviceWait for remote agent to verify your internet licenseReceive confirmation that your device hasn’t been tampered withPage proceeds to load preamble“Hi and welcome to *.com! Please check out our corporate sponsors while we prepare your synergistic experience!”, videos begin playingAnticipating your needs, based off of your advertisement shadow profile, your device preemptively reaches out and downloads *.com’s apps in the backgroundExceed your allotted bandwidthPopups everywhere “Purchase another 500TB network pass 🎫 for only $699.99 Ameros! 💵💵💵”
(DIR) Post #AU2qfOyjTajH3q2uR6 by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2023-03-27T15:22:41Z
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@cnx @48kRAM you forgot: scramble to mute the sound, fight with a CAPTCHA, enable some 3rd party js…reload…enable more js…reload…repeat until you have something, untick 20+ categories of “legitimate interest” cookies, give up & find a copy of the page in archive.org which runs /all/ the 3rd party js anyway— only to discover they purposely blocked the wayback machine.
(DIR) Post #AU2s441KdQLpFpaLwm by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2023-03-27T15:40:58Z
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@calculsoberic @48kRAM And the cookies agreement.
(DIR) Post #AU2sAK2TzVoYfl6kbo by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-27T15:42:08Z
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@tomjennings I don't necessarily see that one as a bad thing, but yes it can get annoying @48kRAM
(DIR) Post #AU2t9ENHfM5QljsgGu by johnbudd1350@poa.st
2023-03-27T15:53:10.408270Z
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@wrongthink @Abby @48kRAM You left out> please suck your verification dildo
(DIR) Post #AU2vXqFOhuZl5V3UCe by wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo
2023-03-27T16:20:21.388861Z
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@johnbudd1350 @Abby @48kRAM
(DIR) Post #AU34MkRArrXJTDLgAa by FlorriePuddlefoot@sfba.social
2023-03-27T17:50:22Z
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@tomjennings @calculsoberic @48kRAM and when you select "Do not sell my information" the pop-up doesn't close because for some reason that's not a viable choice.
(DIR) Post #AU34OpTR74zlfaOo6a by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-27T17:59:13Z
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@FlorriePuddlefoot 🙌 ok, ok! sell my information! I give up! @tomjennings @48kRAM
(DIR) Post #AU3DbDS6gcbN6Hl5mq by kingu@mstdn.social
2023-03-27T19:42:18Z
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@48kRAM Why visit a website when you can have ChatGPT make up personalize bullshit for you?
(DIR) Post #AU3MEEujz68MYrGqCu by zleap@qoto.org
2023-03-27T21:19:00Z
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@48kRAM +1 give me the former any day.
(DIR) Post #AU3NSeXVbgms2qqBnM by SirPaulCouture@noagendasocial.com
2023-03-27T21:32:49Z
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@48kRAM at least a few of these are why I would not cry much if the EU was behind a Chinese-style firewall to protect the rest of the 'net.
(DIR) Post #AU3NlHYrGP9CHVM4ki by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
2023-03-27T21:36:10Z
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@48kRAM You forgot "only get access to the lead before getting demanded 5 bucks to read the full article"
(DIR) Post #AU47Z1qAU18pwNXxXk by chybnej@twiukraine.com
2023-03-28T06:09:22Z
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@calculsoberic @tomjennings @48kRAM if there's no button "reject all" i simply close the tab.
(DIR) Post #AU4EZSzMFJnXoo07sm by RoyBrander@urbanists.social
2023-03-27T17:27:10Z
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@48kRAM 1960s TV experience:-Turn set on.-Wait 30 seconds for tubes to warm up.-Watch what is on.-Turn set off.2020s TV experience:-Turn Set on.-Wait 40 seconds for it to boot.-Try to find things in grids of thumbnails-Get paralysed by choice-Realize hour has gone by and you need food-Turn Set off
(DIR) Post #AU4GRjT1IOOOW7Jaq0 by DXMacGuffin@metalhead.club
2023-03-27T14:58:59Z
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@48kRAM The technologically illiterate turdballs who made cookie popups a law will have to spend eternity in hell, until they are finished clicking through every useless popup they caused.
(DIR) Post #AU4GRkQvheJZVvLRDc by ralf_muschall@octodon.social
2023-03-27T16:59:53Z
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@DXMacGuffin @48kRAM The turdballs aren't those who made the cookie popup laws, but those who use cookies. The popups are an inconvenient, incomplete way to protect oneself against cookies.
(DIR) Post #AU4GRlDUn5A9wY4Duy by DXMacGuffin@metalhead.club
2023-03-27T17:15:35Z
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@ralf_muschall @48kRAM *EVERY* website uses cookies, that's what the idiots who made the law don't understand. This is like warning people there is sand at the beach.The warning does nothing to actually protect you - it just makes browsing the web more of a nuisance. If you are actually concerned about your privacy, enable the anti-tracking features of your browser or install a privacy plugin.The stupid cookie warnings are annoying and unhelpful.
(DIR) Post #AU4GRlo0bKMzln9NpY by ammoniumperchlorate@rheinneckar.social
2023-03-27T20:07:25Z
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@DXMacGuffin @ralf_muschall @48kRAM Or the websites could simply decide to abide by the Do Not Track HTTP header and auto-disable nonessential cookies for those who have it enabled, without showing annoying cookie banners - I even know one or two sites who do it that way. The problem is that the ad/tracking industry is hellbent on making it as inconvenient as possible to refuse cookies, so most sites won't do that. We could simply require by law that websites listen to the DNT header though.
(DIR) Post #AU4GRmiNDlSMabWOga by anedroid@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T07:48:53Z
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@ammoniumperchlorate @DXMacGuffin @ralf_muschall @48kRAM Websites can (and often do so) ignore your preferences and load malicious scripts anyway, and DNT header is just another bit of information to your fingerprint.
(DIR) Post #AU4GdyjENbLPKBjkyu by h4890@liberdon.com
2023-03-28T07:51:09Z
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@48kRAM Brilliant!
(DIR) Post #AU4HMG2dN6tblGvVpI by methodphoto@toot.community
2023-03-27T16:46:07Z
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@48kRAM I love the feedback on our site popup which appears after you have used the site for 2-3 seconds
(DIR) Post #AU4HMGfd285ViDAebg by anedroid@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T07:59:08Z
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@methodphoto @48kRAM I definitely sign up to the newsletter when I visit your site for the first time even before I start reading the text.
(DIR) Post #AU4HV0L97Pkbfdkwvg by rdc@techhub.social
2023-03-27T17:05:33Z
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@48kRAM This is why I appreciate the reader mode that has started to come up in recent browsers, especially on mobile ones. They can clean up most websites real good.
(DIR) Post #AU4HV10ybtD9lNKM88 by anedroid@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T08:00:43Z
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@rdc @48kRAM The next step - automatically detect if the site is for reading and so switch to the reader view.
(DIR) Post #AU4Hv1AydJ25nCP6WG by rdc@techhub.social
2023-03-28T08:05:24Z
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@anedroid @48kRAM Ya, that’ll be great!
(DIR) Post #AU4K6pPIPpVGftrQpM by mitsunee@ieji.de
2023-03-27T17:22:05Z
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@48kRAM 2020s web experience as intended by framework authors:- Open site in browser- content immediatly appears- start to read while framework loads in and gradually makes elements interactable- images/videos load in as-needed to save bandwidth, autoplay is disabled for video- dismiss cookie popup- interact with site and/or click a hyperlinkWe have all these amazing tools to make super optimized sites, yet ads and "SEO optimization" make sites more horrible to use than ever... ugh...
(DIR) Post #AU4KjaqgTcEQoi9jdY by methodphoto@toot.community
2023-03-28T08:36:56Z
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@anedroid @48kRAM and each time you visit regardless of which button you’ve pressed I will ask you to accept cookies
(DIR) Post #AU4ihntXOmSdbDAcW8 by gryzor@androiddev.social
2023-03-28T13:04:22Z
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@chybnej @calculsoberic @tomjennings @48kRAM I gave up and have a Firefox extension that denies over 95% of the pop ups I've encountered. A good idea, horribly implemented (by the EU law) which basically defeated the original purpose as people will more often than not click "the easiest button given to them" (often an accept all). Some sites are shadier than others and still within the regulation/law. :/
(DIR) Post #AU4ijOQZ3Z6pC1NNbM by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T13:05:49Z
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@gryzor I was just thinking about this, oddly enough (separate from this thread) - part of the problem is I'm sure people don't want to read long legal agreements @chybnej @tomjennings @48kRAM
(DIR) Post #AU4jI3RF5LY8ERDlVw by chybnej@twiukraine.com
2023-03-28T13:12:06Z
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@calculsoberic @gryzor @tomjennings @48kRAM people are not lawyers to assess whether legal agreement contains some legal loopholes or not, so eventually they feel being cheated when such agreements are forced in them
(DIR) Post #AU4n7h6neRsltkyUF6 by Nishi@pl.starnix.network
2023-03-28T13:54:35.592431Z
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@48kRAM
(DIR) Post #AU4rWkvUzgLunLtW6K by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club
2023-03-28T14:44:25.456875Z
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@48kRAM :gnujihad:
(DIR) Post #AU4vuqZq2Isv5RVQTw by wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo
2023-03-28T15:33:56.604432Z
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@DXMacGuffin @48kRAM Such popups are only a problem for those who allow CSS and javascript to load by default.
(DIR) Post #AU4xLqrLC7aHje8Jqy by MechaSilvio@poa.st
2023-03-28T15:49:41.700791Z
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@48kRAM Are you not entertained?
(DIR) Post #AU4xP0XxdKXeeIZbrE by istvan@bozgor.org
2023-03-28T15:50:14.919197Z
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You forgot: Decline to allow this site to hammer your system with notifications that keep popping up even after you closed the browser.
(DIR) Post #AU53QijRRGvxhY8wYS by hosford42@techhub.social
2023-03-28T16:56:50Z
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@gryzor @chybnej @calculsoberic @tomjennings @48kRAM Cookies should be opt-in, not opt-out, and the setting should only be accessible through a settings button the user voluntarily clicks, not a pop-up.Pop-ups should be done away with altogether. I'd be 100% fine with it if they were just illegal.
(DIR) Post #AU53TNc2Pu3H4MwrQG by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T16:58:14Z
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@hosford42 yeah, there's no unified format for it, which is, I assume, part of the issue 😼 @gryzor @chybnej @tomjennings @48kRAM
(DIR) Post #AU53VXciASD8hGII4m by hosford42@techhub.social
2023-03-28T16:58:37Z
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@calculsoberic @FlorriePuddlefoot @tomjennings @48kRAM Nah, I will walk away. They can kiss it.
(DIR) Post #AU5FcuptSdkOANk6k4 by justafrog@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T19:14:14Z
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@hosford42 @gryzor @chybnej @calculsoberic @tomjennings @48kRAM I would like to vote for your political platform.
(DIR) Post #AUF6fGFxNpuiOx1hRY by EricLawton@spore.social
2023-03-28T14:15:56Z
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@48kRAM1970s Microsoft: who could possibly need more than 640kB?2023 MS: you need a minimum of 4GB just to run Windows and all the spyware, adware and general bloatware that you have to take wirh it.
(DIR) Post #AUF6iAHc34BukDBZ0y by lefarfadet@mstdn.io
2023-03-31T00:13:35Z
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@48kRAMI started using news waffle on gemini. A capsule that extracts articles from major free news sites around the world: no cookies, no tracking pixel, no ads or other bloat.gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi
(DIR) Post #AUNSuCwFEi8eI4uV16 by wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo
2023-04-06T14:08:31.755185Z
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@lightning @DXMacGuffin @48kRAM “Fundamental” hasn’t stopped me from reading the target textual content. It has become popular to block javascript, but people tend to overlook that CSS can also be used for nasty things including to harass visitors with popups.
(DIR) Post #AUNX4mHT5ZSGcD8JG4 by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2023-04-06T14:23:19Z
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@lightningIt’s already happened to some extent. #Ombrelo is a search engine that excludes #Cloudflare websites from the results. There’s nothing to stop someone from creating a search service that filters out other varieties of garbage.It’s precisely the profit-driven world that creates the need to filter out garbage.@ksbex @Wildduck @48kRAM @realSiegfried
(DIR) Post #AUNX4muojGvkaFXjai by cnx@larkspur.one
2023-04-06T14:54:46.264275Z
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@koherecoWatchdog, could you please point me to Ombrelo? Cc: @lightning, @ksbex, @Wildduck, @48kRAM and @realSiegfried in case they also have trouble finding the address or have found it.
(DIR) Post #AUNbv35oE91ZdDrNGy by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2023-04-06T15:48:10Z
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@cnx I regret to say I can’t reach it anymore. As it moved around, the new location would be normally disclosed in the TXT field of some DNS records. But the last move was not reflected there.@lightning @ksbex @Wildduck @48kRAM @realSiegfried
(DIR) Post #AUNckwJseclVgSBXKy by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2023-04-06T15:52:34Z
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@cnx You might be able to find it by digging through here:http://wmj5kiic7b6kjplpbvwadnht2nh2qnkbnqtcv3dyvpqtz7ssbssftxid.onion/dCF/deCloudflare/-/tree/master/tool/ombrelo@lightning @ksbex @Wildduck @48kRAM @realSiegfried
(DIR) Post #AUNckx0Q6SnDoO5Vdw by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2023-04-06T15:56:20Z
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@cnx Indeed, it is here:http://ombrelo.im5wixghmfmt7gf7wb4xrgdm6byx2gj26zn47da6nwo7xvybgxnqryid.onion/@lightning @ksbex @Wildduck @48kRAM @realSiegfried
(DIR) Post #AVSv9emyILwrmPYHSq by ralf_muschall@octodon.social
2023-03-27T17:34:55Z
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@DXMacGuffin @48kRAM Only most sites use cookies, not all. The cookies which are needed e.g. for remembering login data on webshops across pages, fontsize preferences etc. are not subject to the law[1], it is sufficient to mention that these are used. All other cookies are used against the user, and except for purposes like mentioned above there are no "necessary" cookies, particularly not for sites whose purpose is just reading texts.There is a very simple test to see if a cookie (or many thereof) is necessary: open the site and use it, allow or disallow cookies to your taste. Then look what cookies have been set. Then delete all cookies, close the browser, restart it and visit the site again. If it works flawlessly, all previously set cookies were useless or even harmful. If the page asks who you are and appears in a tiny white font on black background, you've deleted a necessary cookie (but I believe websites tend to store such preferences on their own server, so users don't have to change color and font on each device again).[1] https://wikis.ec.europa.eu/display/WEBGUIDE/04.+Cookies+and+similar+technologies
(DIR) Post #AVSvFgC1zGcjs993oG by mdhughes@appdot.net
2023-03-28T03:35:03Z
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@emkay443 @48kRAM I should automate Safari loading a page & pausing JS after 1s. Should be doable, and it'd stop most sites. Instead I hit reader view… and get nothing because they have no central content.
(DIR) Post #AVSvUPwMhFAvoEqSHo by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-05-09T03:13:58.276777Z
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@48kRAM 1990s web experience- Call ISP- It's busy- Call later- It's busy- Call ISP, finally connected- Open site in browser - Browser crashes- Open site in browser- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup- Close popup
(DIR) Post #AVSvaggtKcw1Utb5fs by StaleDonut@shitposter.club
2023-05-09T03:15:08.582628Z
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@Moon @48kRAM good old days
(DIR) Post #AVSvioR2QFinpg3Xw8 by realSiegfried@troet.cafe
2023-03-27T21:48:34Z
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@koherecoWatchdog @ksbex @48kRAM yeah, on my non moving desktop pc.
(DIR) Post #AVSvip3g6ad7lW8PAG by Wildduck@mamot.fr
2023-03-30T09:53:20Z
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@realSiegfried @koherecoWatchdog @ksbex @48kRAM when you're pissed off and want to leave, catch a glimpse of a popup beging you to stay on the page to subscribe and get notification on an update, or to read more on subjects you may like
(DIR) Post #AVSvipn3NsvU2FMdtI by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2023-03-30T20:55:36Z
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@Wildduck @48kRAM @ksbex @realSiegfried ah yes, that one is a bit rare. Sometimes triggered by switching tabs or (iirc) even control-w. I guess it overrides the keystrokes for those cases but it probably doesn't work for people who click to close the tab.
(DIR) Post #AVSviqHtXDb1ZtnGxk by Wildduck@mamot.fr
2023-03-31T04:09:30Z
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@koherecoWatchdog @48kRAM @ksbex @realSiegfried i see it mostly when I reach the upper quarter of the screen with the mouse, as to close the tab or go elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #AVSviqoVZxgTD33JnU by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
2023-03-31T09:17:01Z
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@Wildduck @realSiegfried @ksbex @48kRAM In any case, it should be treated as a #darkPattern and the website should be blacklisted. And the blacklist should be used to downrank search results.
(DIR) Post #AVSvnWTyb5ZbbLg13Y by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-03-28T13:52:54Z
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@48kRAM that's why I use #DuckDuckGo if not #FrogFind on #LynxBrowser: Once you've experience the speed of a minimalist #web, you don't want to go back!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_v2_vTogS8 via @ActionRetro http://frogfind.com
(DIR) Post #AVSvnlC5trBLEEQRlY by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-05-09T03:17:30.236154Z
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@Moon @48kRAM No bonzi buddy?
(DIR) Post #AVSvtp64Inm54QUwZk by jeff@federated.fun
2023-05-09T03:18:27.746476Z
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@StaleDonut @48kRAM @Moon mom picks up the reciever to make a phone call and the x window freezes and your mouse cursor is stuck as an I cursor.
(DIR) Post #AVSz1bM5Zp68dAONVY by bonzibuddy@shitposter.club
2023-05-09T03:53:37.096663Z
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@verita84 @48kRAM @Moon I was still in high school
(DIR) Post #AVT0lPr2lhNIEkHTjE by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2023-05-09T04:13:05.738534Z
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@Moon @48kRAM I can relate to this
(DIR) Post #AVUrqw7SD5sD2xiuO0 by unabomber@social.here.blue
2023-05-10T01:42:38.878314Z
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@48kRAM You left out the immediate truncated text and the paywall that appears as you read into something important.