Post AU2XHagIPsFtHEM3qC by rbe_expert@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AU2XHZu5J7gsrhnYh6 by rbe_expert@mastodon.social
       2023-03-14T00:02:12Z
       
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       Just what do we mean by the phrase "The United States is an imperialist country"? We mean that, if it were not stopped, the US would eventually take over the whole world and everyone in it, never being satisfied until every person in it is its slave, and even then not satisfied. We mean a monster.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU2XHagIPsFtHEM3qC by rbe_expert@mastodon.social
       2023-03-14T00:07:01Z
       
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       And what makes it imperialist? Its capitalism.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU2XHbF2Ki2p0ybnzU by stormbringer@c.im
       2023-03-14T14:03:15Z
       
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       @rbe_expert I personally would make a distinction between capitalism and corporatism. Capitalism in the USA and elsewhere not only made those nations wealthy, but also reduced poverty worldwide. Corporatism is a corrupt state where politicians and corporations buy and sell each other. This action breaks capitalism because it destroys the key thing a capitalist state needs. A free market. Even formerly communist states like China and Russia have devolved into corporate states.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU2XHby3dK3bGbflAG by adiz@outerkosm.us
       2023-03-14T14:59:01.947Z
       
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       @stormbringer@c.im I think you're confusing corporatism with corporatocracy. Corporatism is an old concept going back a very long time and was modified and evolved by Fascist Italy with some Marxist-inspired integrations. Corporatocracy is just the normal state of a reasonably matured capitalist system. @rbe_expert@mastodon.social
       
 (DIR) Post #AU2XHcX9Wq871S5mro by stormbringer@c.im
       2023-03-14T16:59:22Z
       
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       @adiz @rbe_expert My argument is that it loses the definition of capitalism entirely if there is no longer a free market. You might be right that "corporatocracy" is the inevitable byproduct of capitalism, but it is no longer capitalism. Knowing that distinction matters because capitalism is the ideal. It far and away outstrips the productivity of the people, the equality of opportunity available for people, and the reduction of poverty for the people in general than any other system including socialism/communism.