Post ATw0PICdfudvjaKrlA by charlie_root@annihilation.social
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(DIR) Post #ATvyQwVT72Ej7CnmuO by chertograd@masto.ai
2023-03-24T07:10:57Z
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As much as people despise #Snaps in #Ubuntu and lament their slow start-up speed, I disagree. I have an old cheap laptop and while not blazing fast, I feel as if #Firefox launches relatively quickly. I didn't time it but didn't feel like it's taking forever and it's just good that the apps stay updated and there's no messing with dependencies. And I hear you, coming out of the woodworks: "But what about #Flakpak?!"Listen. Snaps have their own benefits (especially on the server).#Linux
(DIR) Post #ATvyQx72rKIIzkNnTk by asahi95@floss.social
2023-03-24T07:22:23Z
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@chertograd Thank you! This is actually what I wanted to address to people for a while now 🙏 #Flatpak may have their benefits, sure but I rarely had any issues with #Snap, if at allI just don't get why a loud minority loves to complain and bash on Snaps and whatever #Ubuntu brings to the table 🤷 but i guess it's their problem
(DIR) Post #ATvyQxl6SOKwzz7muu by chertograd@masto.ai
2023-03-24T07:47:25Z
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@asahi95 IKR? Lots of people avoid it like the plague and jump through hoops to purge snapd on their machines. I just think it's silly. And it's pointless to go into the "which is better: Flatpak or Snap?" debate since both have their usecases and pros and cons. Canonical has made Snaps and they run great on servers (while Flatpaks don't) so it just makes sense to go "all-in" in improving them even further.There's room for more than one format just as before (rpm, deb, appimage etc.)...
(DIR) Post #ATvyQyQDzVEL3WMd0q by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-03-24T07:49:19.266633Z
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@chertograd @asahi95 or yk compile your own software and using system packages :cirno_deal_with_it:
(DIR) Post #ATvyQzZ7jtwWbPXFWS by chertograd@masto.ai
2023-03-24T07:15:01Z
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It just doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of clarity to have both in the Software Center and furthermore, didn't Snaps appear before #Flatpak? I'm sure #Canonical will keep improving #Snaps and to remain streamlined, it makes sense to use the same packaging format as on the server-side. Flatpaks don't run on servers iirc.I just think people are taking the thing a bit too harshly when it comes to #Ubuntu. Snaps have their benefits compared to traditional .deb packaging.
(DIR) Post #ATvyR5pISgRe1J9FZ2 by chertograd@masto.ai
2023-03-24T07:42:02Z
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It took roughly 1 second to startup #Firefox (#Snap) on a cheap 550€ laptop I bought in 2017. People keep saying it takes 3 seconds. Either they've improved upon #Snaps tremendeously on #Ubuntu OR it's just a blatant lie OR they're using archaic hardware if mine is 5 years old by now and a budget laptop...Snaps are not that bad, folks... Don't worry about the "infamous startup times", they're exaggerated.
(DIR) Post #ATvyrYSgcQPcMOBreK by asahi95@floss.social
2023-03-24T07:52:14Z
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@dcc Not everyone can do that y'know... 😐 Besides, the average tech-illiterate person can't even do that either wayAnd it would also be time-consuming than to just install a Snap or Flatpak
(DIR) Post #ATvyrYvksLfFoXn4xU by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-03-24T07:54:11.878871Z
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@asahi95 hmm yes pacman -S <le package> is much harder than installing either flatpack or snap and them installing the package (im using pacman as an example)
(DIR) Post #ATvzRRxoFuMcdErdZI by asahi95@floss.social
2023-03-24T07:58:38Z
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@dcc I'm starting to think you're just a troll, as a matter of fact, I will block you and not continue this conversation 😑
(DIR) Post #ATvzRSUmHKjeHUHxxI by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-03-24T08:00:39.061119Z
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@asahi95 @dcc im a troll because i made an argument to your argument? come on man
(DIR) Post #ATvzfslLPlBbnkuotc by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-03-24T08:03:16.603817Z
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@asahi95 @dcc me rn
(DIR) Post #ATw0PICdfudvjaKrlA by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-03-24T08:11:30.538492Z
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@asahi95 @dcc Whoa whoa whoa, everyone just calm down. Let me mitigate the situation here. Yes flatpacks, snaps and appimages are convenient and useful to users of lesser skill. But there can be problems associated with their usage too. I get both sides.