Post ATv1WULMq8LCDASAkK by stux@mstdn.social
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 (DIR) Post #ATuzs5CenBuOhaY4Cu by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:30:32Z
       
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       There's a reason why there's another version of #TikTok in #China and it's not to exclude you from amazing content..If there still aren't any alarm bells ringing when a company cannot launch an app in it's origin country I'm not sure what will..#Facebook or Metawhatever isn't much better but we know that devil, if people chose to use it you know the risks but with TikTok it's much more dangerous since it's guessing and well.. China.. :pooh:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv038jzymasrMPrmK by customer228@ravenation.club
       2023-03-23T20:32:43Z
       
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       @stux I feel blessed to have never used TikTok...
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv04xnRdpUdUltiL2 by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:33:01Z
       
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       @customer228 Be happy indeed :nkoHappy: Same here!
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv05SQpjwpGVcYatk by fosserytech@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:33:09Z
       
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       @stux and devil reaches the Fediverse too in the form of P92
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0cjpI5ZBi0srkw4 by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:39:00Z
       
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       And well since #China took the effort to ban us and some other instances I feel like I can bitch about 'emAnd with that I mean Xi Jinpooh and the CCP clowns
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0fvYSwFNTG2W7CS by princelysum@aus.social
       2023-03-23T20:39:41Z
       
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       @stux I don't understand the China demonising. What's that about?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0gBN08diKJ7HBYG by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:39:45Z
       
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       @stux I didn't realize they banned us!! well they don't know what they're missing
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0jbRbeRMe2n3rA8 by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:40:23Z
       
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       @princelysum It's a weird country in the digital space...They banned us a year ago or so..
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0mtpPkxcbvhlkau by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:40:57Z
       
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       @calculsoberic Oh yes! Someone took the effort along with mas.to mastodon.social and joinmastodon.org
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0t2G9K2nRofCT1U by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:42:06Z
       
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       @stux they'll have to try harder than that :flan_evil:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0vEEPmWDZWfR0CW by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:42:32Z
       
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       @stux have you noticed the Korean spam bots??
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0xLYpVDNypuzei0 by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:42:50Z
       
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       @calculsoberic Haha yeah... But sad thing, some of our users where from China and couldn't access the platform on one day
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0yIGnDv0yv40aHo by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:43:00Z
       
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       @calculsoberic I think i have not?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv0zlQWIvrldaG8a8 by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:43:18Z
       
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       @stux aww, that sucks! Tor, VPN??
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv10VoXpwPrVPqyPo by tomasveneny@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:43:25Z
       
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       @stux I trust more FB, Twitter, Google, Amazon than anything from China.USA and Europe have same value in the  core but China.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv11ER1wDLRtWCKVk by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:43:26Z
       
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       @lucent Thats what i meant indeed :ablobwink:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv11wtwc4cLnw42gi by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:43:44Z
       
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       @stux it seems like there are more of them daily. They are usually for casinos and things like that.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv13qO7nfHKBQ5ITQ by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:44:00Z
       
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       @calculsoberic Well no..Tor is also banned :facepalm: It's hard to get a trusted alternative source thats not infected and not use China relay nodes etc
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv15xajzMCx6TzipE by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:44:25Z
       
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       @stux Tor has found ways around that though, I think...
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv17vDZmiAWJy5wem by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:44:48Z
       
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       @stux https://support.torproject.org/censorship/
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv18uoCn8iJLEhYie by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:44:56Z
       
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       @tomasveneny Me also! Still i prefer Europe since it's the most 'privacy friendly' in the world i think 🤔 Even some US countries dont like the rules here
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1CUGXQ5gwB6eo40 by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:45:34Z
       
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       @calculsoberic thats awesome!Prob is, they cannot access that URL/hostname/IP :akko_giggle:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1HwQ8AWCMwjkEwS by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:46:36Z
       
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       @stux what about with a proxy server? ”:8080″ +”:3128″ +”:80″ filetype:txt (no software to install but you can set up your machine to connect through one of these, idk just trying to come up with a solution!)
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1KPiWDQoiO4WaLQ by IronCurtain@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:47:03Z
       
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       @stux don’t agree with this view:1. Even if banning TikTok didn’t go against the US’s first amendment (which it does), there’s still the case that banning TikTok means that the US government is pissing off a lot of teenagers for doing everyday socializing. As for the fact that China uses TikTok to spy, there are so many other ways for China to do that, such as Data Brokers.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1NiUQsKMBTkVjLk by arosano@hachyderm.io
       2023-03-23T20:47:35Z
       
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       @stux How about our world? Are any instances or clients in Chinese hands?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1NwupEzmsDey0Qq by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:47:35Z
       
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       @calculsoberic There are ways for sure :blobcatgiggle: But the whole part of the Tor Browser is the accessibilty i think!There are soooo many ways to use VPNs or Tor via other ways but many people have no clue i think plus the info to get that is often hidden
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1RaU2aIeBo2Ao3k by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:48:21Z
       
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       @stux oh, I forget that sometimes! It's so much simpler than people realize, that's why I try to educate about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1WULMq8LCDASAkK by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:49:12Z
       
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       @arosano I think so yes, there are soo many instances but it doesn't matter! Not any of the big ones if im right
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1bijgl0JKIQKAdc by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:50:04Z
       
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       @lucent Oh no! I meant they actually launched a whole other version for outside China 😉 So one for China and one for the world but both 'tiktok' only other name and content etc :blobcatgiggle:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1h4bKtEtjYeyBiC by WahbAllat@mas.to
       2023-03-23T20:51:06Z
       
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       @stux I don't think China poses any threat to politically active people who never want to go thereIf I cursed China on TikTok what's the worst that will happen to me if I never leave my country or never go to China?I think companies that can manipulate your local politics wherever your local is are far more harmful
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv1hLOUSFivdk5fY8 by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T20:51:09Z
       
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       @stux I wonder if Riseup is blocked too...I've shared that with people who live in censored countries :blobspy:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv2PB28KupQFUXC3U by freakazoid@retro.social
       2023-03-23T20:59:06Z
       
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       @stux I think you're falling for the protectionism propaganda of American tech companies. American companies can't launch apps in China either, so if anything the fact that TikTok also has trouble makes me feel *better* about them.At the end of the day, it's all surveillance capitapism, though. There's not much of an argument for using YouTube over TikTok or vice versa. They're all trash.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv2aaooo8rJPDkYb2 by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T21:01:07Z
       
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       @freakazoid Not really, I was against TikTok since the early start.. I look at the technical aspect of the app (and platform) and the sum is quite easy in this caseI really dislike privacy eating companies and especially with a regime on top of it that can request data whenever it likes
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv44wHTfyTibyBmb2 by carnun@toot.community
       2023-03-23T21:17:51Z
       
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       @stux any idea why? Can't seem to find any news link about this.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv49iU8OcTrGwO4Q4 by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T21:18:37Z
       
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       @carnun Nop, perhaps the free info i don't knowThere are some site testers you can test urls with to see if they work in China 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv4TmkoEYywItkx7Y by carnun@toot.community
       2023-03-23T21:22:22Z
       
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       @stux doesn't seem to be a blanket Mastodon ban, but time will tell - http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=toot.community
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv4Y1ZZ53G1QBWBbk by stux@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T21:23:06Z
       
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       @carnun noicee! :blobcatgiggle: :blobcathighfive:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATv5XMNKLq91bW2c1Q by ematts@mastodon.online
       2023-03-23T21:34:08Z
       
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       @stux :BlobHajMlem:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATvBR1FOahVm43gtgO by greeneralia@masto.ai
       2023-03-23T22:34:21Z
       
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       @stux That is an honour indeed! 🎖 :blobcathighfive:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATvBUEWdgCXy7AHygi by hexadecimal_dinosaur@masto.ai
       2023-03-23T22:37:23Z
       
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       @stux @calculsoberic what about masto.ai?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATvBUGPcfG7fxz1P1s by hexadecimal_dinosaur@masto.ai
       2023-03-23T22:40:35Z
       
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       @stux @calculsoberic also thank you for keeping these two instances running so smoothly!
       
 (DIR) Post #ATvH9r9NTgiFYE4jfU by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
       2023-03-23T23:44:29Z
       
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       @hexadecimal_dinosaur you're welcome!@stux
       
 (DIR) Post #ATvZc3SL7JBf04XZAG by nohello@mastodon.social
       2023-03-24T03:11:11Z
       
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       @stux Only reason needed to ban them
       
 (DIR) Post #ATviz5SEkhw3RhY9OC by kunt@mastodon.online
       2023-03-24T04:56:13Z
       
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       @stux Multiple layers of reasons though.The same app wasn't released in China have something to do with legislation, naming, financial, and censorship. Basically, a combination of historical mess.You might have mistaken that CCP aren't spying on their own people and that's why they have a different app.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATvy0jciOBUDd6h864 by IDontSocial@mstdn.social
       2023-03-24T07:44:28Z
       
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       @stux Douyin is the Chinese version of TikTok. The reasons why this version exists ware that ccp needs to control the information to fool the people and bytedance needs to avoid politic risks. Anyway, neither douyin or TikTok is worthy of spending any time on it.