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(DIR) Post #ATsI1AdPBQWXr1fAA4 by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:09:59.000Z
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OK, all you "it's just for small payments" custodial Lightning apologists.I would love to hear nuanced arguments that refute these claims:1. Adopting custodial wallets now "for small amounts" will lead to slower growth and adoption for proper, approachable self-sovereign setups, both now and in the future2. Using custodial wallets provide zero privacy from the custodian, w/ zaps tying your nostr identity directly to any other payments you make as a result3. Once better options are out there for self-sovereign LN, people won't switch because they'll be fully entrenched in the convenience of custodial wallets4. Often, using custodial LN wallets isn't even using LN at all, as it's just shifting around numbers in a database (Strike>Strike, WoS>WoS, etc.)5. If the majority of users are adopting custodial LN wallets, there will be far less funding and social pressure for better self-sovereign setups, proper privacy tools (BOLT 12, alias SCIDs, route blinding, etc.) due to so few actual potential users
(DIR) Post #ATsIjarT2A9Pw9QHQm by 8be2fd2cf7cce65a56f0820b022125e9ab4044c7dc5e444e2c0c0eab7501b0d7@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:14:53.000Z
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I’m guilty as charged. I use WoS, but would rather switch over. What should I do?🙏
(DIR) Post #ATsIjbQYvgDvgzqJ8K by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:17:59.000Z
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Run your own node via something like RaspiBlitz (preferrably on an old laptop or ultra-small-form-factor PC), use Zeus to control it/transact, and you can use something like lnbits (coming soon!) or Tallycoin Connect to receive Zaps:https://github.com/rootzoll/raspiblitzhttps://sovrnbitcoiner.com/receiving-self-sovereign-zaps/
(DIR) Post #ATsJAlDgd6WlsilnrU by c7eda660a6bc8270530e82b4a7712acdea2e31dc0a56f8dc955ac009efd97c86@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:21:51.000Z
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Your line of questioning breaks down at # 3. When non-custodial products arrive which are *truly* “better,” the switching costs will be sufficiently low. Then it’s about further education and incentives.This is why I’d rather back and promote teams and products like @df173277 and @c93406ed than to tear down the rest.
(DIR) Post #ATsJAlx3uOp89S02aW by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:22:55.000Z
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Self-custody can necessarily never be *easier* than custodial solutions as it requires actual personal responsibility and at least some effort.They are already better in that you actually are using these amazing tools and gaining freedom from 3rd-parties as was the goal all along.
(DIR) Post #ATsJGgvJW4USIJ0KJc by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:23:58.000Z
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BTW you can do self-sovereign, non-custodial Lightning + Zaps quite easily today with sufficiently powerful hardware for ~$300 or less:# Self-sovereign Lightning## PartsHP tiny PC - https://www.ebay.com/itm/354567533378?epid=70582811442TB 2.5" SSD - https://www.ebay.com/itm/325333961758?epid=2314403619## SetupRaspiBlitz for bitcoind and Lightning - https://github.com/rootzoll/raspiblitzTallyCoin connect for Zaps - https://sovrnbitcoiner.com/receiving-self-sovereign-zaps/
(DIR) Post #ATsJM84rz9NDxX4DUu by fe2d5cf62e95aab419b07b6f8a7b75d3cb3066fae25c6b44ace0f9f30c59303d@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:18:34.000Z
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The Solution isn’t to call us apologists, the solution is to build something that non-technical people like myself can easily use. I speak for the majority that if there was a non-custodial option for zaps that connected directly to your node easily, then it would be done.
(DIR) Post #ATsJMCMk2e2vG7SXuS by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:24:53.000Z
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"Apologists" isn't even a derogatory term.The tools are already there, people just need to use and contribute to them:note19uzmss8sw27py95z6zf6sjlxedwlw307r9gd5xkwvh6yy6gpk4pq85szqf
(DIR) Post #ATsJN1YthD4a2aXTRA by 92e3aac668edb25319edd1d87cadef0b189557fdd13b123d82a19d67fd211909@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:17:00.000Z
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Same. Ease of use makes you lazy but that’s just an excuse.
(DIR) Post #ATsJR0cf87qcHnCT68 by 1bc70a0148b3f316da33fe3c89f23e3e71ac4ff998027ec712b905cd24f6a411@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:22:33.000Z
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“I support free markets but make sure to use my noncustodial solution”Sorry, that’s not how things work. Build a better solution and let the winner emerge.
(DIR) Post #ATsJR2Ve7BQK8bvtRI by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:25:50.000Z
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If you take that stance the "winner" will always be custodial solutions (as it always has been) because they require no personal responsibility or effort.Those of us on nostr today ought to be the ones doing things the right way and pushing others to do the same, instead I seem to be the minority here.
(DIR) Post #ATsJVbE2z0V2xysKnY by 29fbc05acee671fb579182ca33b0e41b455bb1f9564b90a3d8f2f39dee3f2779@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:24:57.000Z
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Wait, aren't you a shitcoin maxi? You're now interested in lightning?
(DIR) Post #ATsJVbs6a4XgyDcKEi by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:26:37.000Z
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I've been working on Bitcoin/Lightning for ages as an educator, and work full-time on Bitcoin now:https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/why-i-focus-on-bitcoin/I've never been an anything "maxi", but I do love Monero and value it highly as a tool for freedom.
(DIR) Post #ATsJYYBClPxgO9x9H6 by a3f3e1fbcd22a664159ee1303a85bd12fdff2cbe4e2f116e61632885b97422ea@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:21:56.000Z
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Do you recommend something like #Blixt or #Breeze and connecting it to say an Umbrel?Would that be able to send and receive zaps?
(DIR) Post #ATsJYYliZfAWDP2JBg by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:27:13.000Z
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Receiving Zaps is more tricky but can be done today on Umbrel, great guide by @e5177ebf here:https://sovrnbitcoiner.com/receiving-self-sovereign-zaps/
(DIR) Post #ATsJdhNzxijuODON0K by 29fbc05acee671fb579182ca33b0e41b455bb1f9564b90a3d8f2f39dee3f2779@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:27:06.000Z
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You can still use LN completely know custodial with Phoenix or Breeze on the phone. I don't expect plebs to have a well connected node who also need to understand channel balancing.
(DIR) Post #ATsJdiIMa9pHD1lNrM by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:28:09.000Z
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Channels aren't really that complex if you're just doing private channels and not attempting to be a routing node.Setup a few outbound channels to popular nodes and then buy inbound liquidity from any number of sources, like Amboss Magma.
(DIR) Post #ATsJebF4I6s1cje1rM by 8be2fd2cf7cce65a56f0820b022125e9ab4044c7dc5e444e2c0c0eab7501b0d7@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:28:02.000Z
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Thanks, I’ll give it a try.
(DIR) Post #ATsJelpavA1uSuoLBI by 92e3aac668edb25319edd1d87cadef0b189557fdd13b123d82a19d67fd211909@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:26:46.000Z
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Good info thank you.
(DIR) Post #ATsJmVDwYB7VH8t38S by c7eda660a6bc8270530e82b4a7712acdea2e31dc0a56f8dc955ac009efd97c86@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:26:18.000Z
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You get that. I get that. We are not the norm, and we never will be. I respect and appreciate that you work every day to make this easier and better for a certain audience who are ready to hear it. That audience is not the next billion.So, as I’ve asked others: would you have Bitcoiners and builders stop onboarding normies altogether until non-custodial products with sufficient ease-of-use arrive, whenever that is?
(DIR) Post #ATsJmVqEFpkFBsncoK by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:29:43.000Z
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Yes.Idk why the low time preference portion of Bitcoin goes out the window when it comes to self-custody/privacy.If the tools aren't ready, don't jump to onboard people to custodial tools that are no different than Paypal. Take the time to onboard them properly or wait until things are ready, donate to devs doing good work, spread the word on excellent solutions, and keep trying new things yourself.
(DIR) Post #ATsJpejvcvZReoLqYy by fe2d5cf62e95aab419b07b6f8a7b75d3cb3066fae25c6b44ace0f9f30c59303d@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:28:57.000Z
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I just want an app on my node that can generate a lightning address to send and receive zaps. Is that too much to ask(rhetorical)?
(DIR) Post #ATsJpfXCfizC7dPCMq by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:30:13.000Z
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There are already quite a few solutions with many more on the way, one here from @e5177ebf:https://sovrnbitcoiner.com/receiving-self-sovereign-zaps/
(DIR) Post #ATsJzN9xqO5w1tA8iu by 29fbc05acee671fb579182ca33b0e41b455bb1f9564b90a3d8f2f39dee3f2779@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:30:49.000Z
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I mean, if people do that, great. Personally I tell my normies friends to use Phoenix or Breeze. A power user is a different story.
(DIR) Post #ATsJzNnJU5ZPzvZZ3Y by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:32:02.000Z
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Both of those are great, I highly recommend Phoenix especially!Those are non-custodial tools, excellent way to onboard new users.
(DIR) Post #ATsK8XmDjuBxZ1QiDA by af2384b5ffaad8d79b2cb33e993c9ea9fc73350d9d865c386fe036cd1ed62881@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:32:33.000Z
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Ordered a bigger nvme disk to finally setup something like this! About time to take this zapping seriously ⚡️🤙
(DIR) Post #ATsK98cwjLl3qyNKOO by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:33:49.000Z
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Hell yeah, more power to you!
(DIR) Post #ATsK9zDbCJySxhvKk4 by 52387c6b99cc42aac51916b08b7b51d2baddfc19f2ba08d82a48432849dbdfb2@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:30:00.000Z
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Yer it’s strange. I use Zeus. I don’t know any other way to do it. Just new to the node thing
(DIR) Post #ATsKAsD8jjHrWD8FA8 by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:34:07.000Z
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Yeah, Zaps are still a bit tricky today but coming along very quickly.
(DIR) Post #ATsKbgViLXfz36bXrE by 52387c6b99cc42aac51916b08b7b51d2baddfc19f2ba08d82a48432849dbdfb2@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:38:32.000Z
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It reminds me of computers back in the 80’s. We are so early.
(DIR) Post #ATsKlBexu638GMSkYC by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:40:41.000Z
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This hardware will absolutely obliterate any RaspberryPi setup and last much longer, highly recommend spending a bit more and doing a setup like this instead of going for the bare minimum in a Pi setup.You'll be really thankful you did when all of your apps and wallets are vastly more performant and responsive!
(DIR) Post #ATsKtxAHAIjhuiHvF2 by b692fce3bba7bdfe90fbd9fa24b211e54ccfaa203a841c46ebce75d5dde5421f@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:41:50.000Z
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While I don't agree with Seth's Monero promotion, he is 100% correct to take a stand against the Nostr community's rush to custodial lightning. I understand that some people need to use these solutions for whatever reason but when thought leaders of Nostr are promoting custodial lightning they have lost the plot IMO. If everyone is using custodial lightning, what are we even doing here?
(DIR) Post #ATsKybg8TfLUivPQsy by 8be2fd2cf7cce65a56f0820b022125e9ab4044c7dc5e444e2c0c0eab7501b0d7@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:42:41.000Z
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I’m on it!🙏⚡️
(DIR) Post #ATsKzYhF3CHrlRNeIi by afd563434a737334d69db899e4a32fe38d73a182bb6d1e91d83a2c4c4e04737c@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:43:08.000Z
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🤙
(DIR) Post #ATsLN6IaHg4Odl4ZZA by 0da54ff10e1931782c8db2cb7519a282cb990f39dff378dc5a2cc67a63794007@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:42:09.000Z
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Claim 1) is not refutable. It’s a hypothetical statement about the future. But regardless, we all know the average person will adopt the most convenient setup. So either self-sovereign is more convenient, or it won’t be the most popular. And that really has nothing to do with what is most adopted currently. Claim 2) is obviously true. As far as privacy and zaps go, I doubt I will ever send an anonymous zap. I want the poster to know I zapped them, just like I want them to know I’m the one who replied to their post.Claim 3) is claim 1) rephrased. And as I said before, it has little to do with entrenchment. The most convenient solution gets the most users. Period. The only thing that can change that is if users are in a hostile environment.Claim 4) is probably true. But who cares? If you’ve already traded privacy and sovereignty for convenience, not sure why it’s a concern if custodians are being efficient.I don’t think Claim 5) is true. It’s not like custodians are sucking up funding that would otherwise go to developers of self sovereign set ups. As soon as a convenient self sovereign set up emerges, it would get a lot of users. This is like saying because fiat exists there’s less pressure and funding for bitcoin development. That doesn’t add up to me. There’s people that care about privacy and sovereignty and people that don’t. Now how about this? Any self-sovereign setup would require the user to already have bitcoin and make an initial base chain transaction right? In terms of on boarding non bitcoiners to zaps and lightning, it’s great that people are working on custodial solutions that can make this as easy as possible for newbies
(DIR) Post #ATsLN6leXbK25ufmsK by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:47:29.000Z
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1) We're not really talking "the average person", we're talking those of us already on Nostr and thus early adopters/more hardcore Bitcoiners. If hardcore Bitcoiners are cheering on custodial adoption and championing it, it will lead to less people even exploring/trying self-sovereign setups.5) These companies are raising money from VCs and gaining fees from users that could otherwise go to self-sovereign setups, FOSS projects, and devs. It is a bit of a zero-sum game here - the more traction custodial wallets get, the less eyes, money, and devs go towards self-sovereign setups.6) Why in the world are we happy that custodians (the "3rd parties" Satoshi *made Bitcoin to route around*) are the preferred onboarding method for new users? Onboarding someone to WoS doesn't even get them Bitcoin, nor does it even mean they will ever use Bitcoin. They are *entirely* at WoS mercy for custody, privacy, rug pulls, etc. I cannot, ever, get behind the stance that onboarding noobs to custodial wallets is the best thing and something to be cheered on. If we can't *actually onboard them to Bitcoin* why even do it?
(DIR) Post #ATsLNPyP8PoNexmjtA by a3f3e1fbcd22a664159ee1303a85bd12fdff2cbe4e2f116e61632885b97422ea@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:44:11.000Z
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Thank you I'll give this a try.
(DIR) Post #ATsLWV87Kd6cG7ewgy by 29fbc05acee671fb579182ca33b0e41b455bb1f9564b90a3d8f2f39dee3f2779@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:45:22.000Z
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So hear me out... the ONLY reason people are using WoS right now on here is because LNURL. Even i downloaded WoS to get LNURL. I assure you that the sats don't sit in that wallet for very long
(DIR) Post #ATsLWVmWuNQqHSZDgO by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:49:15.000Z
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Exactly why we need BOLT 12 yesterday instead of everyone just using a poor alternative in LNURL that is hard to do in a self-sovereign way (as it requires an entirely separate web server etc.)BOLT 12 has been around for 2y and implemented in Core Lightning for 1.5y and yet we can't actually use it. Sad and depressing state of things, IMO partially caused by people being able to skate by using crappy alternatives due to offloading responsibility to a 3rd-party like WoS.
(DIR) Post #ATsLm6S4qse8M3R2Ya by b692fce3bba7bdfe90fbd9fa24b211e54ccfaa203a841c46ebce75d5dde5421f@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:50:39.000Z
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I get that most people aren't going to run a BTCpay server. I think what irritates me is the "thought leaders" of Nostr that promote paid Nostr related services and they are using a custodial lightning address service. Seems to me like we are building the Nostr ecosystem on sand.
(DIR) Post #ATsLwic5p5d7bfBKWO by 29fbc05acee671fb579182ca33b0e41b455bb1f9564b90a3d8f2f39dee3f2779@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:53:12.000Z
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I'm with you on that. I'm just stating WHY people are using non custodial wallets. Non custodial wallets are just as simple to use as custodial wallets so I don't see it being a problem when Bolt12 arrives. Life isn't fair, sometimes we just need to wait.
(DIR) Post #ATsM2xXBGEeJcUrN5s by 13bc95d921c8b6b26cf35494964daf86f9312fe50924483d266827979d80897d@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:52:04.000Z
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I'd personally rather nostr adoption be bootstrapped quickly on white belt custodial lightning than slowly on black belt non-custodial lightning. It's not like the custodial option was randomly chosen as the advocated experience. When the risk is a couple dollars of zaps, you look like a hairshirt demanding everyone be as intractible as you.
(DIR) Post #ATsM2y96zCzTW8bfDU by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T13:55:06.000Z
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Very strongly disagree. This same approach is often the reason for things failing to be done properly at all or making it far more difficult down the line because shortcuts are taken up front for "mass adoption" sake.It's not even that hard to do it right today, let's just do it right from the start and all throw our weight behind proper, self-sovereign, self-custodial solutions.
(DIR) Post #ATsSBwDO8P0BrMGbA0 by b692fce3bba7bdfe90fbd9fa24b211e54ccfaa203a841c46ebce75d5dde5421f@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:12:32.000Z
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"Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program"And so it will be with Nostr Zaps. "Eh, it works so I'm not going to bother changing it ever."Unfortunately I'm very confident years from now that the reliance on custodial zapping will look much the same as it does today.
(DIR) Post #ATsSN6vGfDHAFq7Pd2 by b9c099541a86ca48661297c1840dd1f30f9e3ebe382c189928e3025c815d302d@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:00:17.000Z
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You’re right, we need to be promoting non-custodial wallets. Would Phoenix be a good enough compromise? It’s non-custodial but there are privacy trade offs. But almost as easy as WoS
(DIR) Post #ATsSNZuYsuwUA30l3Q by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:06:06.000Z
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Yes, that's a great solution!
(DIR) Post #ATsSO3pzcT74yZ6X68 by d030bd233a1347e510c372b1878e00204b228072814361451623707896435da9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:00:01.000Z
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What is your view on muun? Isnt it the middle ground between custodial n non custody?
(DIR) Post #ATsSO4a4r7ybHUfKvg by 29fbc05acee671fb579182ca33b0e41b455bb1f9564b90a3d8f2f39dee3f2779@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:00:37.000Z
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Thats mostly an onchain wallet for now.
(DIR) Post #ATsSdbbSMWHG2diXHE by 0da54ff10e1931782c8db2cb7519a282cb990f39dff378dc5a2cc67a63794007@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:04:37.000Z
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What I said re: convenience holds for the average person, and clearly also for bitcoiners. When presented with the problem of “how do I get an lnurl to get zaps?”, it’s clear what people chose. So WoS and get alby are sucking up the money that would otherwise go to developers of self-sovereign set ups? Give me a break. Why are we happy that custodians (the "3rd parties" Satoshi *made Bitcoin to route around*) are the preferred onboarding method for new users? Happiness has nothing to do with it. It’s about practicality and being realistic. There is a huge part of the population that does not care about bitcoin, privacy, and sovereignty. And they never will unless they get burned. The only reason they would use bitcoin is because it can do something for them (eg zapping, boosting a podcast, buying from nostr marketplace). I still want these people on nostr because I want value 4 value to reach as many people as possible. I want more customers in the future nostr marketplace. I don’t see how you on board a non bitcoiner to lightning without custodians. And if they get burned, well then that’s the best lesson anyone could ever have about the importance of sovereignty.
(DIR) Post #ATsSdcCg883Fu58GIK by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:08:56.000Z
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Phoenix? Breez? Blixt? SBW?Lots of great non-custodial options for Lightning if people can wait for zap receive support and focus on just spending and receiving tips.
(DIR) Post #ATsSdlCefaNdocBs0W by 23614c859cf75f1d855a83a7827df9125567f74e3c6b162b4d210c509497f79b@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:08:45.000Z
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As I have repeatedly stated adoption is driven by ease of use foremost.
(DIR) Post #ATsSeWBC0q8ZVgrrkm by a3c1a5ceda8b86b7cb64d5d6af58fc787ba400f2912b907969d27547f96545d0@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:09:10.000Z
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Phoenix doesn’t work with zaps as it doesn’t support LNURL. But I agree I’d use Phoenix if it was supported. Needs to be a mobile solution.
(DIR) Post #ATsSeWpbaaSnX1m8kC by 8be2fd2cf7cce65a56f0820b022125e9ab4044c7dc5e444e2c0c0eab7501b0d7@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:20:46.000Z
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I’m going to try to use Zeus as a controler on Mobile to access my own node on an ultra small form factor pc. It is open source and supports lnurl. Wish me luck!https://zeusln.app/
(DIR) Post #ATsSgPK6TVmgpCw8O0 by 0da54ff10e1931782c8db2cb7519a282cb990f39dff378dc5a2cc67a63794007@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:19:44.000Z
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I was using phoenix to send zaps. It works well, although I sometimes had issues connecting to electrum. It’s worth giving it a try
(DIR) Post #ATsSh0WSAYeECE01Gy by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:09:34.000Z
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💯
(DIR) Post #ATsShncVcpbgTCD30y by d030bd233a1347e510c372b1878e00204b228072814361451623707896435da9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:01:42.000Z
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I dont think so, yes the fee is higher than custodial wallet, but still lower than on chain transactionPlus no technical knowledge needed about how to open or close a channel, no hardware needed, and no cost to open a channel
(DIR) Post #ATsShoCJTiFMGExdp2 by 2f242e12cd583d25b1ed31a4e933b4d3bb096768f2d12ad64e460588c5508851@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:21:16.000Z
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When using Phoenix wallet, you don't need a technical knowledge either. Phoenix opens a channel for you automatically when you receive a payment.
(DIR) Post #ATsSjEVV95sq9EcCwq by a3f3e1fbcd22a664159ee1303a85bd12fdff2cbe4e2f116e61632885b97422ea@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:24:21.000Z
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Got the tallycoin part setup but I think I need to put Bitcoin in the wallet and then open some channels first before I can us it?
(DIR) Post #ATsSjFVXQRVVFddke0 by e5177ebf513530c2d0924083b64b7eadd7fb85efcc3e4dfb55c73a924c901ca7@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:26:10.000Z
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You need to have inbound liquidity, yes. Opening channels gives you outbound liquidity, so you’ll need to send some sats out of the channel to get inbound liquidity, or have/pay someone with a routing node to open a channel with you.Is this your first time setting up a Lightning node?
(DIR) Post #ATsSkKO4liLeftfEoa by a3f3e1fbcd22a664159ee1303a85bd12fdff2cbe4e2f116e61632885b97422ea@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:26:59.000Z
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Yes I never set it up before and was just using the Bitcoin node.
(DIR) Post #ATsSka5APmjJLswMYy by e5177ebf513530c2d0924083b64b7eadd7fb85efcc3e4dfb55c73a924c901ca7@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:32:09.000Z
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You can buy inbound liquidity from a site like https://amboss.space/magmaFor example you could buy a 1M sat channel (for a small fee) and someone will open a channel to your node, providing you with inbound liquidity.Or if you know anyone with a node that has public channels you can have them open a channel to you.
(DIR) Post #ATsSlBggbFj5yxmLgG by d030bd233a1347e510c372b1878e00204b228072814361451623707896435da9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:26:29.000Z
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And you pay 3000 sats for each channel created
(DIR) Post #ATsSlCMW5jBe4hLksi by 2f242e12cd583d25b1ed31a4e933b4d3bb096768f2d12ad64e460588c5508851@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:35:38.000Z
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That's true.I don't mind so much in my case.How about blixt?
(DIR) Post #ATsSmJrPhLtrcVKu7U by 7b2255d05d13f48f2298ce6110dd148dfff613c6177a5f204a836adfb724be8e@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:40:36.000Z
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You are right, and by the end of the day today I will retire WOS. What's the best setup for umbrel node?
(DIR) Post #ATsSoBbpLcMEbkw5vk by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:10:54.000Z
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Good info here:https://sovrnbitcoiner.com/receiving-self-sovereign-zaps/
(DIR) Post #ATsSoeRu7aeS3NW4zQ by 5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9b346ff328d1fa11a0fa02a1e6461f6a9b1@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T14:45:10.000Z
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Agreed, non-custodial will never be better from a UX perspective. Any feature is significantly easier to develop and use if it's custodial.The only areas it is better is only figured out when it is too late. Which is why it is important to be loud about it literally constantly to try to remind people what they've signed up for.
(DIR) Post #ATsSqL3lBKjAUu1mQy by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:11:14.000Z
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💯
(DIR) Post #ATsSrEF01FOjdgi25Y by b692fce3bba7bdfe90fbd9fa24b211e54ccfaa203a841c46ebce75d5dde5421f@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:11:06.000Z
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100%, Bolt 12 is the answer. LNURL is a stopgap that does a lot of cool things while also encouraging custodial solutions. I think Lightning Labs is a big stumbling block here. They seen to be prioritizing a "stable" coin usecase that could very well be obsolete when they get it into production.
(DIR) Post #ATsSuD9kVa7d8yfx5c by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:11:58.000Z
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💯If we had BOLT 12 as we should have ages ago, most of the issues with Zaps would be a moot point as it would be far easier to do things the right way.
(DIR) Post #ATsTnJzylnd2IBNtlA by 52b4a076bcbbbdc3a1aefa3735816cf74993b1b8db202b01c883c58be7fad8bd@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:20:31.000Z
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Custodial LN is only ideal for the first stage of orange pilling where you show it “just works” and a bit after that
(DIR) Post #ATsTnKe2MrfgIQ7tCK by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:21:53.000Z
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Why not onboard to Phoenix, Blixt, Breez, or SBW instead of custodial solutions?Feels a bit like lying to show them "it just works" when the reality is more complex and requires a bit of personal responsibility. Almost feels like we set people up for disillusionment if we pitch custodial as "Lightning".
(DIR) Post #ATsTnXUabIq28so1mC by a3c1a5ceda8b86b7cb64d5d6af58fc787ba400f2912b907969d27547f96545d0@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:21:17.000Z
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Nice 👍
(DIR) Post #ATsUQWGJ6oYLcViFZw by 52b4a076bcbbbdc3a1aefa3735816cf74993b1b8db202b01c883c58be7fad8bd@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:22:35.000Z
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Hmm SBW still uses custodians unless you want to buy inbound which is a complicated messThe other options are good
(DIR) Post #ATsURZRYlXAxmETeds by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:29:13.000Z
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True, forgot about the hosted channels!
(DIR) Post #ATsUtgaLo2rs2Ezmpk by 52b4a076bcbbbdc3a1aefa3735816cf74993b1b8db202b01c883c58be7fad8bd@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:29:53.000Z
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Inbound liquidity is the part that sucks the most
(DIR) Post #ATsWzwWLfgHh6VEcpE by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T15:57:49.000Z
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Ah, thought this was under my thread.
(DIR) Post #ATsXtWTJhvPcX0JrWa by 547fcc5c7e655fe7c83da5a812e6332f0a4779c87bf540d8e75a4edbbf36fe4a@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T16:06:26.000Z
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I responded over there
(DIR) Post #ATshURZhmBwZe5zHu4 by 7b2255d05d13f48f2298ce6110dd148dfff613c6177a5f204a836adfb724be8e@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T17:52:47.000Z
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Sweet I think I did it. Someone zap me and I will 2x it back
(DIR) Post #ATshWPnPMTOYhvKxCS by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T17:55:46.000Z
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Zapped, no need to send any back 🙂
(DIR) Post #ATshoFQGfS3DkR15gO by 7b2255d05d13f48f2298ce6110dd148dfff613c6177a5f204a836adfb724be8e@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T17:57:13.000Z
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Nope! Now I really have to send it back. it came to my WOS? Wtf I put my talltcoin address in my profile?
(DIR) Post #ATshoFv6omilI5Rikq by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T17:58:59.000Z
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Possible my client hadn't updated trying again
(DIR) Post #ATslzARNvkM9Ia09dg by 587b29e526e20a8c3cc8d2a9a135d0f9d0dab0ffd922370cffac651255315c97@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T18:05:22.000Z
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For a non-technical person, an own LN is simply to hard to configure/rebalance. Buying inbound liquidity is such a silly thing to do (conceptually)... Why can't more technological verse people act as custodians? Is there something like an open protocol to act as custodian for a LN-wallet?
(DIR) Post #ATslzAvs6Ok6p8GV9s by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T18:45:46.000Z
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That's exactly what Fedimints can be, and one of the key goals of them.Still custodial so I'm not sure where I land but a better in-between.
(DIR) Post #ATt7APGdFBgjVOAkRk by be49045474d8234adbd38dff67bbb9ae2a6d0696bf809e44e9cd12aac0ea6318@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T21:29:34.000Z
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monero is non-custodial and 100% private unlike lightning
(DIR) Post #ATt7B14ChqKGjqeMLo by b9c099541a86ca48661297c1840dd1f30f9e3ebe382c189928e3025c815d302d@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T21:27:49.000Z
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True, you can't receive but you can send. Receiving on LN is not private on any solution though
(DIR) Post #ATt7BanRrcJVYJ5UES by a3c1a5ceda8b86b7cb64d5d6af58fc787ba400f2912b907969d27547f96545d0@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T21:30:57.000Z
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Yea that’s right.
(DIR) Post #ATt7C2TuvpKNPqAHg0 by b9c099541a86ca48661297c1840dd1f30f9e3ebe382c189928e3025c815d302d@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T21:34:36.000Z
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I have and Phoenix is great
(DIR) Post #ATuM45YxHiJd7s9G1A by ba40a9197ddc4cf2e900beb4ec625093033d78a5d8b40f9e4d0756f4d1ca8326@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T22:54:31.000Z
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Monero is not scalable, has unlimited supply, is more complex(less code reviewing), less recognizable, and offers zero to little privacy benefits when used as a privacy tool.
(DIR) Post #ATuM465ZKSP4l1PIqu by be49045474d8234adbd38dff67bbb9ae2a6d0696bf809e44e9cd12aac0ea6318@mostr.pub
2023-03-22T22:58:09.000Z
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monero is scalable can do more transactions than visait has limited supply. tail emission. math. smarter. can be mined on any computer. cultmembers with no information about it spread lies about it. monero does not care.
(DIR) Post #ATuM46alSTMCJm0DTc by ba40a9197ddc4cf2e900beb4ec625093033d78a5d8b40f9e4d0756f4d1ca8326@mostr.pub
2023-03-23T07:23:48.000Z
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Last time I checked Monero tx's were over 10x in size compared to Bitcoin tx's -> not scalable.Also the supply is unlimited, unlike your time. Why would you exchange your limited time for something that's unlimited? 🤔 Is there a way to run the numbers and verify current supply?
(DIR) Post #ATuM4799OcrY2Q5g4e by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-23T13:04:45.000Z
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This is all either very outdated or flat out wrong. Answers to all of your points here:https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/dispelling-monero-fud/
(DIR) Post #ATuNjAwgHDiLeBOwnA by 285d4ca25cbe209832aa15a4b94353b877a2fe6c3b94dee1a4c8bc36770304db@mostr.pub
2023-03-23T13:16:03.000Z
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I keep Phoenix around and will switch to it permanently the moment I can use it to receive zaps. I don’t know if that means BOLT12 or what
(DIR) Post #AU18T0ihFlajCwrmdM by af2384b5ffaad8d79b2cb33e993c9ea9fc73350d9d865c386fe036cd1ed62881@mostr.pub
2023-03-24T20:19:25.000Z
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Just in time for the weekend 😁 https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_935754592a34a1bd230a950c057a88961701f48d1bed542bd39f060da297348f.jpg
(DIR) Post #AU18T1bHynGBwGPNj6 by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-24T22:05:03.000Z
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🔥 NVMe is life
(DIR) Post #AU18T2Crj5JlonzOIS by af2384b5ffaad8d79b2cb33e993c9ea9fc73350d9d865c386fe036cd1ed62881@mostr.pub
2023-03-26T19:31:41.000Z
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My new bitcoin node is almost synced, I think the next steps are installing lightning and getting lnurl going… loads to learn 🤙
(DIR) Post #AU18TajJMxTQtHQmae by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-26T19:35:13.000Z
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🔥