Post ATqMdzfTtwsUdWTwMC by 0d1dd56ae3204328e45f78b1a64ac8f06d227129f775493ebe84cf28250d1ec6@mostr.pub
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(DIR) Post #ATqDpRbFUd1YrZt5Ci by e1ff3bfdd4e40315959b08b4fcc8245eaa514637e1d4ec2ae166b743341be1af@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T02:39:41.000Z
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Ran some analytics on zaps on nostr, it's quite terrible...~95% of users have their lightning address set to a custodial wallet~91% of all zaps by volume have gone to a custodial wallet@be1d8979 is the clear winner of 50% of users and 67.5% of volumeImagehttps://void.cat/d/EKGYForUhDn1R24R7FsMHy.webphttps://void.cat/d/U5JDSpKhiULH3ksnKEnbjP.webp
(DIR) Post #ATqDpSG133dMu0xdkO by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:13:36.000Z
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One of the saddest things I could have read today. 4 key takeaways:1. This is what happens when we don't properly prioritize solving LN's issues w/ non-custodial usage or prioritize self-sovereign setups, and when we normalize "it's just for small amounts bro"2. The fact that BOLT 12 hasn't been widely adopted after more than 2 years (or even *implemented* in LND?!?) is depressing. Zaps have to drive BOLT 12 adoption ASAP.3. Good luck getting all of these non-technical WoS users to migrate to self-sovereign setups now that they've tasted the convenience of trusting someone else entirely, aka PayPal 2.0. Even when we improve self-sovereign setups it will be much harder now to build momentum4. The fact that @e1ff3bfd can even do this analysis shows the serious privacy issues with Zaps - let's make private/anon Zaps the default in *all* clients, pleaseMore on BOLT 12 if you're new to the concept: https://bolt12.org/
(DIR) Post #ATqGcwdf4zZjE6kOuW by e2ccf7cf20403f3f2a4a55b328f0de3be38558a7d5f33632fdaaefc726c1c8eb@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:20:50.000Z
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Everyone has complaints but nobody has pull requests.
(DIR) Post #ATqGcxJqY9JrKwU5fE by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:44:33.000Z
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Sadly I don't have the technical acument nor time to do the actual dev work, so I'm doing what I can and continuing to raise awareness and push users to put pressure on devs and projects.I've contributed where I can to docs and educational resources in the meantime. Trust me, if I could contribute the necessary code it would have been done long ago.
(DIR) Post #ATqH1MLx7r0Bvc6dVI by ad1b1f9ff3e3a600b434983057773aef23da1170162e9332ffe458d7443e85f6@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:27:33.000Z
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What is needed is a user friendly solution. I had no problem setting up and running a node, but I'm tech savy.I still use wallet of satoshi for this for convenience. I transfer SATs to my node if it reaches 10$
(DIR) Post #ATqH1Msv9HNDZrWxtI by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:47:39.000Z
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Of course we need that, so we need more pressure on projects like LND to do the right thing and prioritize BOLT 12 which *greatly* simplifies a non-custodial setup that would work with Zaps.In the meantime while I understand people using WoS etc., I think it sets a very bad precedent.
(DIR) Post #ATqH1RhPFW8MVbBL8a by bb344c746678361530109e741eca1fcf5f41a54f8a3bc40920a04023b772a60d@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:29:34.000Z
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I want BOLT12 as much as anybody. What can the humble plebs do?
(DIR) Post #ATqH57mbEtlHtjMht2 by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:48:25.000Z
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Pressure Lightning Labs to actually get their ass in gear and focus on BOLT 12 instead of NFTs.One of them has generational impact on LN/Bitcoin usage, the other are stupid monkey pictures over LN.
(DIR) Post #ATqHGC8dO0zqaiwzTM by e623bb2e90351b30818de33debd506aa9eae04d8268be65ceb2dcc1ef6881765@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:32:45.000Z
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Zaps are inherently not private
(DIR) Post #ATqHGCfbPRMsEyNJrM by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:49:34.000Z
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Zaps can easily be private, the framework is already there. We can do private Zaps which encrypt all information to the recipients pubkey, hiding comment/sender from the broader network, or we can do anon Zaps which are essentially the same as tips and reveal no information on the sender even to the recipient.There's no need to reveal to the world our entire financial data to like a post.
(DIR) Post #ATqHJG637rp7jjCbp2 by 0da54ff10e1931782c8db2cb7519a282cb990f39dff378dc5a2cc67a63794007@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:37:36.000Z
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If anything about zaps on nostr strikes you as “sad” consider an alternative perspective
(DIR) Post #ATqHJGd19IC9NycwD2 by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:50:13.000Z
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Lol, ok.So I should just blindly accept the custodial, transparent status quo and cheer people on for changing database entires in WoS and never even touching LN or Bitcoin?
(DIR) Post #ATqINwoIMLZBK5hJjM by 0da54ff10e1931782c8db2cb7519a282cb990f39dff378dc5a2cc67a63794007@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T14:02:49.000Z
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And also, I want to say that I love your content, and am grateful for all the work you do. Just a difference of perspective :)
(DIR) Post #ATqIir0r6pfrQLXeEq by 0da54ff10e1931782c8db2cb7519a282cb990f39dff378dc5a2cc67a63794007@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T13:56:34.000Z
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No, but you can smile and celebrate how far this feature (zaps) has come in just a few months. And then from this place of positivity, realize that the status quo is 100% due to the difficulties in creating your own lnurl, and with more time people will have a self-custodial solution
(DIR) Post #ATqIireuhtiVQaHdg0 by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T14:05:07.000Z
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I have done both, I've been loving Zaps and cheering them on while also fighting for privacy at the same time.I can both love a feature and want to see it built with privacy and self-sovereignty in mind from day one.The longer we wait to think deeply about how we do this in a privacy-preserving way, the less people will do so and the less likely that it is done in a privacy-preserving way at all. We *have* to build from the ground up with privacy in mind.
(DIR) Post #ATqK0uExwotAbJJUlk by 4735f82ad1aeeaecb93fea03153e4cd5fe67622a89a43cf1f70653c8ec15ac99@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T14:15:20.000Z
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How was he able to figure all this out? Haven't zapped yet, but arent senders private by default with ln?
(DIR) Post #ATqK0uv9PydIi93BWS by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T14:22:54.000Z
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In standard Ln, yes.With default zaps you reveal your Nostr pubkey and comment in the invoice itself and the recipient publishes that to the Nostr network.It's a huge step backwards for privacy and harms all other Lightning user's anonymity set as well.
(DIR) Post #ATqMdzfTtwsUdWTwMC by 0d1dd56ae3204328e45f78b1a64ac8f06d227129f775493ebe84cf28250d1ec6@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T14:41:04.000Z
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Well, most people are willing to give up some freedom for some convenience. This likely won't change so this will stay like this, or get worse, until it's competition is almost as convenient.Knowledge requirements of any system act as a barrier to entry and when most people are too busy to learn everything needed to safely use Bitcoin they won't bother.
(DIR) Post #ATqe7OjZU4yxzo0Au8 by 2590201e2919a8aa6568c88900192aa54ef00e6c0974a5b0432f52614a841ec8@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T14:55:16.000Z
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chill dawg. wos is no-kyc. of course, adding it to your social media profile kinda defeats the point, but only if you’re using your state identity as your social media identity, which you should not do!
(DIR) Post #ATqe7PMv7mSRxqPbEm by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T14:58:37.000Z
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Not going to chill, the more we normalize it the less likely we see better non-custodial solutions.
(DIR) Post #ATqe7PqhL4HFSCLNeS by 7795fd57dfc3b9c97b2d26b08b3228b77365f31c8604a64c3907a24ed5ba2e94@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T17:00:18.000Z
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Seth I feel you’re screaming into a black hole. I wish you the best with your privacy push on bitcoin but I follow a lot of people in the bitcoin sphere and you’re the only one consistently calling out the lack of privacy. What’s also annoying is the few people who do care about privacy use monero in silence because they’re invested in bitcoins success
(DIR) Post #ATqe9BmEd44EOD6My0 by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T18:08:29.000Z
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There are definitely others, sadly the minority but working on that 😉
(DIR) Post #ATqeAKPg0PD3So5rA8 by e1ff3bfdd4e40315959b08b4fcc8245eaa514637e1d4ec2ae166b743341be1af@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T17:02:00.000Z
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Anon zaps wouldn't change anything here.
(DIR) Post #ATqeAL59WCO1XRUyoK by 58ead82fa15b550094f7f5fe4804e0fe75b779dbef2e9b20511eccd69e6d08f9@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T18:08:43.000Z
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Not the receive privacy/custody issues of course.
(DIR) Post #ATqeB6m0ChaZRwuMcq by 547fcc5c7e655fe7c83da5a812e6332f0a4779c87bf540d8e75a4edbbf36fe4a@mostr.pub
2023-03-21T17:12:17.000Z
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Re #3: They'll see people get rugged and it will scare them into better options.