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(DIR) Post #ATo7kQmS7jJepiQzSq by grammargirl@zirk.us
2023-03-20T12:56:01Z
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The word "until" is ambiguous. People don't know whether it means "though" or "up to." This is a rare case where I advise you to be wordy to make yourself clear!Write something such as “up until and including March 21” or “no later than March 21.” https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/articles/does-until-include-the-date/
(DIR) Post #ATo7y1Co0WhJZHEvRI by sogerald@masto.ai
2023-03-20T12:58:27Z
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@grammargirl If I mean "until and including," can I just use "through"?
(DIR) Post #ATo81mnNWfOg2B8vIG by Grizzlysgrowls@twit.social
2023-03-20T12:59:09Z
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@grammargirl Reminds me of a more wordy expression that is less informative.Example: "Up to $200 or more!" Actually means every single amount that is less than $200, every single amount that is more, and -not- $200.Because I'm a picky bugger, that's why! 🙂
(DIR) Post #ATo8PsN8RY76HQM3o8 by kcollett@tech.lgbt
2023-03-20T13:03:30Z
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@grammargirl Through?
(DIR) Post #AToDPqPmDjE3ypOX3I by analogfusion@mastodon.art
2023-03-20T13:59:29Z
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@grammargirl Kroger Pharmacy prints a "refill until" date on their pill labels, but I have to remember they really mean "before," or I won't be able to refill a prescription ON that date.It frustrates me to no end, but the time I tried arguing with pharmacy staff about the meaning of the word proved fruitless. 😐 It seems clear-cut to me: If I have until Friday to turn in a term paper, that means I can turn it on Friday.
(DIR) Post #AToHQXbG3h6rjWLv8q by vlk@mastodon.social
2023-03-20T14:44:27Z
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@grammargirl Another one I ran into recently where being wordy is better: “deceptively”. If something is deceptively simple, is it simpler than it seems, or harder than it seems?
(DIR) Post #AToIlX2nQ7Cs2po3s0 by colorblindcowboy@mastodon.art
2023-03-20T14:59:28Z
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@grammargirl At my company we use “through” or “ends on” for sales. We often don’t have the character count for anything else. However, I think the UK generally prefers “until.” Fortunately we usually have the luxury of a countdown clock as well.
(DIR) Post #AToMbjdGA9GG0URi1A by Freedom2B@kolektiva.social
2023-03-20T15:42:24Z
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@grammargirl 👍🏻
(DIR) Post #AToQaY2WB5e7a1wwq0 by juliewebgirl@mstdn.social
2023-03-20T16:27:06Z
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@grammargirlExcept "until I die". Clear. Not wordy nor ambiguous.Devil's advocate: But does that include during death itself.
(DIR) Post #ATp7ySlFkbceBjWYbI by Raven67@zirk.us
2023-03-21T00:33:01Z
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@grammargirl I quit using "next" for the same reason.
(DIR) Post #ATpAW2YdsehKfqlRMO by grammargirl@zirk.us
2023-03-21T01:01:44Z
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@vlk Yes, "deceptively" is deceptively wishy-washy.
(DIR) Post #ATpAdhycHgiB9xZOIC by grammargirl@zirk.us
2023-03-21T01:03:08Z
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@sogerald Yes, is also "through" is pretty clear.
(DIR) Post #ATpLT1n3NQWgv8Grqq by sogerald@masto.ai
2023-03-21T03:04:08Z
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@grammargirl Thanks.
(DIR) Post #ATqQ9Mbux2pCdBStNY by leebennett@mastodon.social
2023-03-21T15:31:37Z
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@grammargirl Likewise I abhor the ambiguity of things like “next week” or “next Tuesday.”
(DIR) Post #ATqT2QNaq7ys9i9DOa by grammargirl@zirk.us
2023-03-21T16:04:00Z
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@leebennett Same here. I wrote about the ambiguity of "next" in my book "101 Troublesome Words."