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(DIR) Post #ATmRPb6y808jYlSDFQ by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T17:25:20Z
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"Maybe Zoom Parties Weren't So Bad"In which I look at some early -- and thus still very provisional -- research suggesting that all those video hangouts were good for our mental health during the early pandemic, and might even continue to be good nowFor Medium subscribers: https://clivethompson.medium.com/maybe-zoom-parties-werent-so-bad-e5e57e1c869cIf you're not a Medium subscriber, here's a "friend" link: https://clivethompson.medium.com/maybe-zoom-parties-werent-so-bad-e5e57e1c869c?sk=619c940e48ebf76a8362025bcd80f50a
(DIR) Post #ATmRcj9xW4CEHl75v6 by randulo@fosstodon.org
2023-03-19T17:28:26Z
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@clive They're still good for people in different countries!
(DIR) Post #ATmSnZffEcsxzqgBJg by skrishna@wandering.shop
2023-03-19T17:41:38Z
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@clive Honestly as a parent of a young kid who doesn’t often have the time or energy to get ready and commute to socializing and fun, I wish virtual hangouts weren’t so reviled!
(DIR) Post #ATmT3rwx2gq1JwXFU8 by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T17:43:51Z
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@randulo Absolutely!
(DIR) Post #ATmT4hdEtDy3briEym by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T17:43:35Z
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@skrishna Truly, eh?It really broadened the tent for socializing
(DIR) Post #ATmUI6VlncnQUVAmtE by Jennifer_Pinkley@zirk.us
2023-03-19T17:58:22Z
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@clive I'm an introvert and video calls are the absolute worst. Everyone is looking at you all the time, it's so unnatural. I tried them during lockdown and didn't find them very enjoyable unless I was dialing in to watch a presentation and I could turn off my camera. I use video calls now for work and like that they enable remote work, but for fun? Nope.
(DIR) Post #ATmV0e7UCoVHT13OV6 by mickdarling@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T18:06:25Z
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@clive A group of maybe 10 friends started doing a standing zoom happy hour still every Friday March or April 2020, and it is an incredibly rare week that at least a few people aren’t on, and usually 5 or 6 most weeks.
(DIR) Post #ATmVP0VScktdqdsrVg by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T18:10:51Z
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@mickdarling That's so great!!
(DIR) Post #ATmVV6D6KWoNHACXNA by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T18:11:18Z
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@Jennifer_Pinkley Yeah, most of my introvert friends feel the same way! Way too exhausting
(DIR) Post #ATmVfskWiYSkiGyfDM by DrFerrous@hachyderm.io
2023-03-19T18:13:22Z
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@clive reminds me of the Happy Hours you hosted @stuartcantrill
(DIR) Post #ATmW6JryVZHmM04FsG by sorrykb@mastodon.social
2023-03-19T18:18:37Z
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@clive At the beginning of the pandemic, I started zoom-calling (audio only) with my dad almost every evening. We would play two online games of Wordfeud (scrabble-ish) while chatting to each other. I started it as a way to ensure that he wouldn’t feel so isolated during the early lockdown days. Three years later, we’re at 1,676 games. And we’re tied, 834 - 8 - 834. :)
(DIR) Post #ATmXemE3geA66COKWm by killick@dmv.community
2023-03-19T18:36:03Z
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@clive @skrishna, In high school my son did a lot of his socializing while gaming with his friends. He'd be on the headset just hanging out with them and chasing zombies or whatever. I thought it was good for him even pre-pandemic.
(DIR) Post #ATmXtLlyJwpuOsCfFw by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T18:38:42Z
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@killick @skrishna Yep yepMy middle-school kids did the same during the pandemicTons of Minecraft with voice chat!
(DIR) Post #ATmXz9sTSXwXFI0wN6 by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T18:38:56Z
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@sorrykb Holy moses, you guys are neck and NECK
(DIR) Post #ATmY4TWDrUDxbq8pVI by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-19T18:39:09Z
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@DrFerrous @stuartcantrill yes!
(DIR) Post #ATmYKt1EouJjKXTSXg by sorrykb@mastodon.social
2023-03-19T18:43:39Z
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@clive It’s really something.
(DIR) Post #ATmczt3vxl2H9eXcO0 by Poweredbylemonx@towns.gay
2023-03-19T19:35:53Z
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@clive a friend and I restarted doing video calls while we watch something together. It’s been a pretty great time since we can plan around it more impromptu. It is also not nearly as awkward as a regular video call since we’re focused on something else together vs staring at each other through a screen.
(DIR) Post #ATmd9beFYzmc2cA7ZQ by drwho@hackers.town
2023-03-19T19:37:42Z
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@clive As someone for whom every place they liked to go to be social went out of business.. yes.
(DIR) Post #ATmdS7IIdwLXOyinjs by ozlubling@mastodon.social
2023-03-19T19:41:01Z
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@clive @anildash there’s a similar story in the NYTines this weekend. I couldn’t agree more. I feel like many of us have swung too far in the other direction. Needing connection doesn’t go away just the pandemic is mostly “over”. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/business/zoom-friends-socializing.html
(DIR) Post #ATmf2Ln2KFVKjrwL9U by PlanetMillie@mastodonapp.uk
2023-03-19T19:58:47Z
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@clive I’ve not read your article (added to my queue), but wanted to mention something other replies haven’t covered yet. There are many people who couldn’t attend social events before the pandemic, for a variety of reasons. An estimated 1.5-3.5% of the UK population is agoraphobic. 8% of the pop has depression. 6% have generalised anxiety. Etc.(These aren’t mutually exclusive.) For some of us, the pandemic was the first time we’d been able to socialise with friends in years.
(DIR) Post #ATmiD8WEJ6gIcwuhNY by sallyexactly@mastodon.online
2023-03-19T20:33:48Z
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@clive I'm an introvert and I definitely get Zoom fatigue sometimes. On the other hand, during the pandemic I started four weekly, standing Zoom chats with various long-distance family and friends that we've continued this whole time, and it's been wonderful having that. We could have been doing that long before the pandemic!
(DIR) Post #ATmiHzEEHA8DGHo4bw by suldrew@xoxo.zone
2023-03-19T20:34:10Z
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@clive video hangouts are great and there's no reason to quit them!
(DIR) Post #ATmiQy6Lprn0N9P9A8 by lmc@mastodon.social
2023-03-19T20:35:53Z
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@clive I have definitely fatigued of work zooms, and mostly don't bother with the camera anymore but I do miss some of the social zooms. I was definitely more present with further away family and friends then. Early in the pandemic, my sister turned 60 and she and her husband went camping (west coast CA, so Wi-Fi) and we set up an elaborate 60th birthday party over zoom that went for hours and we all still talk about it now. One of our best recent family get togethers.
(DIR) Post #ATmoimJmz2k0lTZ8T2 by SkipSandwichDX@dice.camp
2023-03-19T21:46:48Z
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@clive I threw a Discord New Years Eve Party during quarantine and it legit ended up being a great time. A bunch of video rooms and categories themed after a house party, each with a max number of users so people had to float between conversations, one room was streaming the ball drop, one had music, one was for Jackbox, etc.
(DIR) Post #ATmtM24Kkwlij1JH1c by shayz0rz@mastodon.online
2023-03-19T22:39:12Z
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@clive I very much miss having these interactions, either one-on-one or the group parties. Everyone moved back to “normal,” so now all these people I reconnected with are back to their “normal” state of being gone.
(DIR) Post #ATohlJzwQH8YRAT38i by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:37:54Z
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@nikkiana Ah, damn, that's a hard problem to run into, in the middle of a pandemic!
(DIR) Post #AToiBIde6HWxkXQUYC by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:40:12Z
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@shayz0rz Yeah, I hear that from a lot of folks!
(DIR) Post #AToiH11eUt4erVNf7I by suldrew@xoxo.zone
2023-03-19T20:38:12Z
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@lmc @clive My 50th birthday on google meet was AWESOME
(DIR) Post #AToiH1hTzMXCxEx4Jk by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:40:29Z
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@suldrew @lmc Woo!
(DIR) Post #AToiMjJzEa53gsgIqG by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:41:00Z
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@lmc That's excellent!
(DIR) Post #AToiSEYeWbQc17AKXo by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:41:35Z
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@sallyexactly yeah, this is the interesting thing, right?We could have been doing this all the time -- it took a pandemic to make it seem possible
(DIR) Post #AToiafO6eikXXrFnDU by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:42:09Z
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@PlanetMillie Yes, excellent point This moment in culture opened the doors to people who were typically excluded from F2F public socializing
(DIR) Post #AToihkvyQvgcm1TXSC by sallyexactly@mastodon.online
2023-03-19T20:40:25Z
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@ozlubling This is a great article, too. I'm so glad we've moved beyond those terrible early days of the pandemic... but I do miss how creative we were in finding ways to connect then. It's like it showed how much we really value relationships of all kinds.
(DIR) Post #AToihlMCrOfc5NkULI by ozlubling@mastodon.social
2023-03-19T20:42:55Z
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@sallyexactly both of these articles were great but I wish they wrote more about how to make the pendulum swing a bit back to those times. Just asking people to do zooms can feel weird and out of context now. But there must be a way to bring back the excitement and energy to connect with others not in your immediate vicinity.
(DIR) Post #AToihly8aN0lz1UmSu by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:42:31Z
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@ozlubling @sallyexactly Agreed!
(DIR) Post #AToipe085sZ9aWBGK0 by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:42:48Z
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@Poweredbylemonx That's terrific!
(DIR) Post #AToiv5Iu0gp1iKYVs0 by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-20T19:40:21Z
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@SkipSandwichDX Very cool!
(DIR) Post #AToof55bdgyy8m5YVU by shayz0rz@mastodon.online
2023-03-20T20:55:37Z
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@clive 0/10. Absolutely refuse to recommend.
(DIR) Post #ATpA6AJGR7KPBfEVhQ by Sisuile@wandering.shop
2023-03-21T00:56:14Z
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@clive two bits: 1) I'm still doing them at least once a week as my friends are scattered across three continents. It's how we keep in touch.2) nice mug! Do you know who made it?
(DIR) Post #ATpDWKVTRkyICi6zxo by RhetRx@zirk.us
2023-03-21T01:34:38Z
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@clive I’ve joined several craft guilds that now have regular remote meetings via Zoom; being able to see and make friends has made the awfulness more bearable.
(DIR) Post #ATpM2cwbEOWUHqi9dg by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-21T03:10:08Z
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@Sisuile Very cool about the meetups!Alas, I don't know who made that mug -- it's a stock photo. It's cool, though, eh?
(DIR) Post #ATpM8dl973zWYLDm4W by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-21T03:10:23Z
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@RhetRx Right on!
(DIR) Post #ATqgP9N7XSIHTK5qd6 by RhetRx@zirk.us
2023-03-21T18:32:32Z
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@clive These guilds were originally regionally based, but now we network across the country and even have a participant from the UK.
(DIR) Post #ATulFY0aMXE1O7dIgK by shield_asset@mastodon.social
2023-03-23T17:46:03Z
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@clive People move all over, online video is the only way we can hang out regularly until someone makes cheap high speed rail a thing.Not even counting the people that move abroad; that'll continue to be the only way we hang out on the regular.Makes me sad.
(DIR) Post #ATva7E43j1JssX2yBc by clive@saturation.social
2023-03-24T03:14:45Z
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@shield_asset yeahIt's a good salve for long distance pals