Post ATmTzr3eW5HhLmJrXc by LittleTownJane@mas.to
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(DIR) Post #ATiESBZtRQY9CY2zoW by Steveb@mastodon.ie
2023-03-17T10:32:53Z
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Two pictures that both show about 30 people getting a coffee. We have to break #carculture #BikeTooter #ebikes #ebike #waroncars
(DIR) Post #ATmTzpwAgPhpsHoNF2 by fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
2023-03-17T12:38:44Z
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@Steveb I'm willing to bet that the coffee shop in the first picture is too far from anything for people to walk to it. We could start by not letting companies build like this. If you want X's coffee and you're out of town – get it delivered. At worst, that's three cars instead of thirty. (But it could be scooters or bikes.)
(DIR) Post #ATmTzr3eW5HhLmJrXc by LittleTownJane@mas.to
2023-03-17T17:26:33Z
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@fishidwardrobe @Steveb Yes, where I live in the Midwest, you "might" bike somewhere (if you don't value life), but walking is just too far, too slow.
(DIR) Post #ATmTzrZYbSnywjFLGq by RupertReynolds@hachyderm.io
2023-03-18T14:09:18Z
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@LittleTownJane @fishidwardrobe @StevebThat's the less obvious side of #carculture. People build these soul-less places where nobody lives, on the self-fullfilling prophecy that everyone has a car and loves knackering the engine and exhaust emissions kit with short journeys and idling.USA seems to have led the way, but rest of world seems to have wasted much time copying, before realising it's a toxic dead-end.
(DIR) Post #ATmTzsBqJ7QirT9uwi by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-19T17:55:55Z
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@RupertReynolds @LittleTownJane @fishidwardrobe @Steveb The Egyptian government is hard at work on a brand new car-oriented city outside Cairo to serve as a new capitol. I think they're mad.
(DIR) Post #ATmU3VYeOYMhpMYoEa by masterdon@mastodon.au
2023-03-17T22:29:30Z
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@fishidwardrobe @Steveb willing to bet it also makes shit coffee
(DIR) Post #ATmU3WGxjnoK2nICIq by fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
2023-03-18T08:30:21Z
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@masterdon @Steveb well, maybe. But all those people in the queue were willing to pay for it, so, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(DIR) Post #ATmU3WqlagRzpq2n6u by masterdon@mastodon.au
2023-03-18T08:32:41Z
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@fishidwardrobe @Steveb the mystery of Starbucks. Glad I live in one of the few parts of the world never sullied by that sewerage in a cup
(DIR) Post #ATmU3XRzMIDzhHSW80 by fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk
2023-03-18T08:50:16Z
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@masterdon @Steveb There's no mystery. Taste is subjective. Different people like different things, and what tastes great to you tastes crap to others and vice versa.I'll give you that it's a lot to pay for what is mostly hot milk!
(DIR) Post #ATmU3XwpVctXEvt9CS by masterdon@mastodon.au
2023-03-18T09:10:33Z
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@fishidwardrobe @Steveb yeah, but Starbucks is shit coffee. That is a fact.
(DIR) Post #ATmU3YY3HEfX6NIsDY by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-19T17:56:35Z
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@masterdon @fishidwardrobe @Steveb They boast of using 100% arabica beans, then roast them so hard the flavour is indistinguishable from that of ordinary green pease.
(DIR) Post #ATmU5bqtxoCxvc6DjM by gruff@stroud.social
2023-03-18T09:55:21.966299Z
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@masterdon @fishidwardrobe @Steveb I think it's their business model that's shit. Ultimately, they destroy communities by sucking out disposable income to overseas shareholders. Yet they pay no next to no tax to support the services needed by those communities. Their business model is parasitic by design.
(DIR) Post #ATmU5cYrKNN07wfKFM by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
2023-03-18T13:46:03Z
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@gruff @masterdon @Steveb @fishidwardrobe its also an indictment on the current (American?) pace/way of life - if the drivers had the time/inclination to sit down and drink their coffee, there are ample parking spaces to deal with all the cars in that queue, without also causing the traffic jam outside...
(DIR) Post #ATmU5dNCJDdUe4DWi0 by masterdon@mastodon.au
2023-03-18T13:59:58Z
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@vfrmedia @gruff @Steveb @fishidwardrobe and ironically, probably quicker to go inside and order
(DIR) Post #ATmU5dy4697uUPSyAq by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-19T17:56:56Z
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@masterdon @vfrmedia @gruff @Steveb @fishidwardrobe I usually find it so, yes.
(DIR) Post #ATmUBdkno3YNZ07d9E by Rickd6@mstdn.ca
2023-03-17T13:30:12Z
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@Steveb the fifteen minute city at the bottom vs the 50 mile one at the top.
(DIR) Post #ATmUBeGLukn58qspKC by Steveb@mastodon.ie
2023-03-17T13:33:44Z
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@Rickd6 to be honest. I suspect those in the que would still use a car to visit a cafe in a 15min city. I don’t believe this is about people having to drive to get the coffee/snack/whatever. It’s about a preference to take the car no-matter-what.
(DIR) Post #ATmUBewBPEFdEaSEWe by dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-17T13:44:16Z
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@Steveb @Rickd6 I don't think it is a real preference, it's just all they've known. Those same people from city #1 on vacation in city #2, don't drive everywhere. They might rent a car when they arrive because they assume they'll need it, but they figure it out pretty quick.
(DIR) Post #ATmUBfRjVvUKoRDQhc by aeischeid@mastodon.social
2023-03-17T20:13:58Z
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@dragonfrog @Steveb @Rickd6 I want to believe it's not a preference, but a close to home anecdote leaves me unsure. A few years ago a new walk / bike path on my street was put in that came along with a new shared mailbox instead of individual boxes at the end of each driveway. All my neighbors use their cars pretty consistently to pick up their mail & often drive on the bike path in the process.Walking is an easy, obvious, and safe option they avoid
(DIR) Post #ATmUBfwDgZsIKzTmDo by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-19T17:58:02Z
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@aeischeid @dragonfrog @Steveb @Rickd6 Having lived all my life in a car-oriented area, when I return here from periodic visits to a less-car-oriented area (even Toronto is good enough!), I heartily wish never to see a car again.