Post ATlBQbNOprC8FLdWLo by eagerpebble@social.vivaldi.net
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(DIR) Post #ATl7OZBLciXN2qm0Lg by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T02:07:50Z
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Oh before I go to sleep :blobcatgiggle: 'Dutch directness' is not because we try to be rude but just to be honest we everyone knows what they got etcWe are using English very literal'Trust us, it saves a load of time and avoid communications mistakes'
(DIR) Post #ATl7htFLFTYwm9r6tk by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T02:11:23Z
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@DataDrivenMD Don't forget very confusing :blobcatgiggle: "WHAT DO YOU WAAANT" :lego_laugh:
(DIR) Post #ATl7qD1hahFaRHRVHE by WizardOfWor@masto.ai
2023-03-19T02:12:54Z
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@stux I love the Dutch!
(DIR) Post #ATl8LerAAZTZjHVcZs by docbrianS@mastodon.online
2023-03-19T02:18:34Z
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@stux
(DIR) Post #ATl8VKwv2Sacssogqm by SusanHR@mas.to
2023-03-19T02:20:21Z
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@stux I must have some Dutch DNA nobody told me about!! LOL
(DIR) Post #ATl9xQpcrTrLBsMk0u by byteborg@chaos.social
2023-03-19T02:36:37Z
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@stuxIt's one cultural achievement I envy you for. Much, much better and easier than wading through the tons of subtext, symbolism and implied meaning that most neurotypical Germans are emitting.
(DIR) Post #ATlBQbNOprC8FLdWLo by eagerpebble@social.vivaldi.net
2023-03-19T02:53:03Z
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@stux English language: Avoids communication mistakes? Challenge accepted!
(DIR) Post #ATlFsKe91v8gHhwmKe by catsnfats@mastodon.world
2023-03-19T03:42:53Z
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@stux I am not Dutch, but am the same way. Get into a lot of trouble in California. š¤·āāļø
(DIR) Post #ATlV5Xmczu7i6YfmyW by wesdym@mastodon.social
2023-03-19T06:33:21Z
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@stux This is how I've tried to explain purported (U.S.) Yankee (Northern, especially Northeastern) 'rudeness' to (U.S.) Southerners, who often complain about it. We're just being direct and to the point. If the truthful answer is "No", then "No" is the answer you'll get; we're not doing it to hurt anyone's feelings. It wouldn't surprise me if our habit was inspired by the sensibility of early Dutch settlers in our area.
(DIR) Post #ATlbAdHUaFCkKRv3Oy by Raen@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T07:41:34Z
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@stux My kid will go to NL for school next year š¤ and Iāve been trying to explain this idea of transparency. I start with the windows of private homes - coming from a shuttered or sheer curtain society (not at all transparent) to a view straight into a main room through clean windows.
(DIR) Post #ATlicJKj2ffeFVZoRs by TheSurrealSeal@meow.social
2023-03-19T09:04:58Z
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@stux And it's appreciated!
(DIR) Post #ATlrsFblYigwutDsJ6 by donholloway@infosec.exchange
2023-03-19T10:48:42Z
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@stux that kind of blunt honesty still holds in the former Dutch colonies like New York and New Jersey
(DIR) Post #ATm3StKeRVOg2TtLYO by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2023-03-19T12:58:39Z
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@stux The only ones I've ever known to beat the Dutch on directness are the Israelis.
(DIR) Post #ATm8Lillobrl1Vybwm by ssb@infosec.exchange
2023-03-19T13:53:21Z
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@mansr @stux What about the Scots?
(DIR) Post #ATm9bZYXwCPJ2JuhzU by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T14:07:17Z
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A great example!Stop beating around the bush and get to the freaking point :flan_laugh: Especially when you RUN A COUNTRYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZU_oMQaSYE
(DIR) Post #ATmAEW9CXs5Hl3d4Gu by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T14:14:19Z
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And now for a little backstory:Why are the Dutch so direct?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i580Y1taI_I
(DIR) Post #ATmBdJPZ8PTDS3fcLg by ivo@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T14:30:08Z
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@stux Send coconuts
(DIR) Post #ATmBfGg4GnZBYHK0My by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T14:30:21Z
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@ivo š„„ ā¤ļø
(DIR) Post #ATmCTI4lLSscMrj0t6 by Clarity@c.im
2023-03-19T14:39:29Z
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@stux three nuts? I knew it.
(DIR) Post #ATmDIOXh3uONBzcqoK by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T14:48:40Z
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@tanepiper Toch niet? :blobcatgiggle:
(DIR) Post #ATmGJh9ndeWL4olFM8 by JohnLoader6@masto.ai
2023-03-19T15:21:57Z
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@stux some versions of autism mean that you say what you are thinking - not always welcome
(DIR) Post #ATmIqOjrL2qdPxLiqG by josephholsten@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T15:50:58Z
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@mansr @stux This. My favorite standards committees are led by one of the above. I am embarrassingly inefficient at cat herding compared to the folks Iām thinking of.
(DIR) Post #ATmJ1ANd3zyo4S5Ovw by josephholsten@mstdn.social
2023-03-19T15:52:47Z
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@stux You may also find the search results for āask vs guess cultureā hilarious. Raised in the USian south, the prevalence of guess culture for ārespectā was exhausting.
(DIR) Post #ATmQ1sTtnPOyWkIya8 by kevinteljeur@mastodon.online
2023-03-19T17:11:15Z
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@stux Thereās also the fantastic Dutch dry humour, which is often stating the facts but in a particular way. Translates terribly, which is a shame.
(DIR) Post #ATmfE5729qTGUPt4kq by martijn@hachyderm.io
2023-03-19T20:01:38Z
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@stux Iām not a big fan of Rutte, but this is one of those moments where I really appreciate his approach to the situation at hand.
(DIR) Post #ATmlZFUxL1OoVUYNHM by ilsevs@mastodon.social
2023-03-19T21:12:42Z
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@stux Nice metaphore with the coconuts. The book The culture map is available as audiobook in the online bibliotheek (comes free with your library subscription). Is āenthousiasm for free stuffā also a coconut thing? Because it sure is applicable to a large proportion of Dutch people.
(DIR) Post #ATn8KWbNlLuk9fVVhY by avmavm@mstdn.social
2023-03-20T01:27:44Z
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@stux I encountered it a few times on holiday in Amsterdam. It didnāt seem rude, just honest.I tried to speak Dutch a few times and didnāt do well. I was very British and apologised for my poor Dutch. The response was usually āyes, your Dutch is not very good. I will speak Englishā. Made me laugh! In Britain we would usually avoid and criticism and put up with the unsatisfactory situation