Post ATa2WSDhqunT8mDdjc by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
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 (DIR) Post #ATVPltidDmOXvSDXrk by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-11T12:18:30.136715Z
       
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       Like IMO animals should have personality rights like not getting killed for no good reason in the first place, but also not have their death played back repeatedly in a context what is essentially propaganda.Showing gore is an effective way to convince people that there is vile stuff happening and it's not even illegal, but it still feels kinda iffy to me.RT: https://hornyjail.pro/objects/7e9206fe-50a3-424f-903a-6498c3701f32
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa2WSDhqunT8mDdjc by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T17:51:33.552Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro is being eaten a good enough reason? ​:troll_thinking:​
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa2dzHPKsEzhUXgq8 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T17:52:56.612042Z
       
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       Only if it's a good enough reason to kill a human too imo
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa2oHvWrRQGQgDjxA by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T17:54:48.326952Z
       
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       @mario @katkat but because of prion you can't make that equivalence
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa2vsnKBbignd0L3Y by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T17:56:10.249034Z
       
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       how do you mean? :blobcatopenmouth:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3GF3b7maxdYK9dA by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T17:59:49.894426Z
       
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       @mario @katkat humans eating other humans will catch beriberi due to prionsit can be avoided on the short term by eating only the limb muscles but any prolonged cannibalism is bad news
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3Mo6riE2c5Xz0jI by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:01:01.211000Z
       
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       @mario @katkat i am known for my desire to cannibalism
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3QiUIYaZroIo8qu by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:01:43.583938Z
       
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       @mer @mario @katkat beriberi is b1 deficiency. do you mean kuru? kuru only comes from brain matter
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3QylC3XbCHKprPM by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:01:46.553876Z
       
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       okayokay, that might be, but it doesn't relate to the moral argument wether or not it's justified to kill a cognitive, feeling being for food
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3bQ1tWYOVkUcplY by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:03:41.883247Z
       
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       @errante @mario @katkat yeah that's the one, im dumb
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3fxslbOeVtqWWgq by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:04:28.774420Z
       
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       @mer @mario @katkat i dont think theres an inevitability of kuru. it was found that kuru only really affected people who ate neural matter, or children thereof
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3rQXPOz21xV00bw by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:06:37.255697Z
       
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       @mario @katkat cognition is a spectrum and plants are on itI'm not going to parrot the talking point that chickens don't feel pain but they do have a more primitive way of perceiving and understanding.I believe as long as the slaughtering method is swift and avoids unnecessary suffering, it's as ethical as a carnivore animal catching a prey.That's why I stopped eating cephalopods entirely, there is no way to quickly kill them without causing them undue pain.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa3wyN12d7KKsmZAe by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:07:33.649258Z
       
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       @mer @katkat @mario nvm actuakly i forgor that prion protein isnt exclusive to neural matter
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa42xIDxYj4jSOTi4 by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:08:43.967718Z
       
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       @errante @mario @katkat yeah, I know that you're probably okay if you eat arm and leg muscle but if we went full a modest proposal it would end badly.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4S7N7chZJEOgPvU by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:13:12.647104Z
       
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       @errante @mer @mario @katkat yeah vCJD was probably not contracted through brain matter during the 90's mad cow disease outbreak
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4ThW2j6vzcRbvRA by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:13:28.754459Z
       
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       >they do have a more primitive way of perceiving and understanding.There are humans with a similar level of cognition to farm animals. Still it would be unethical to kill them (i.e. for food)>it's as ethical as a carnivore animal catching a preyCarnivores killing prey isn't ethical but also not something we can stop in a meaningful way, in contrast to our actions>That's why I stopped eating cephalopods entirelyI think the maxime of trying to cause as little pain as possible is super awesome :hug:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4Tw4abSt2ldsiEC by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:13:31.187Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro humans are our own kind tho we have reasons beside morality to keep each other alive, so you can't have exact same reasoning.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4aQ6xpneDfQ5Hk0 by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:14:41.202476Z
       
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       @mario @mer @katkat i dont think animals are ethical actors
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4b0pBKsPNWz36f2 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:14:48.186532Z
       
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       What is the ethical significant difference between a human life and the life of a farm animal?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4e7s1b0MMFgrbO4 by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:15:21.301798Z
       
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       @mario @katkat @mer to say that they are performing etjical actions is to say that nature is kind or unkind. it isnt. thats human traits
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4eCmtJWDxVDV4a0 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:15:23.213862Z
       
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       I think some humans aren't ethical actors, still I can't kill them
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4jyLztJQeTTfeMa by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:16:24.626314Z
       
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       @mario @mer @katkat oh im making a specific point here i alqays get annoyed at anthropomorphisation of nature
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4k8pQwiuuxfWIdM by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:16:28.002Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro we do shit for each other, chickens can't do compsci
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4l7xLfuUeXsgywK by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:16:37.865933Z
       
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       I don't say the predator makes an ethical consideration when getting it's prey, but I as a human can look at it and think "that must hurt, i wish that doesn't happen to me"
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4nvghkGZFMeF99c by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:17:08.955544Z
       
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       some humans can't do compsci, still i don't kill them
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4pNcvM11IIzAOky by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:17:23.294922Z
       
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       @mario @mer @katkat 100% yes
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4qBzg5gviW2CHAG by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:17:33.650920Z
       
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       @errante @katkat @mario @mer kuru could've been transmitted through bone marrow as well. pretty sure that might be a source of infection, but prions are very weird and there is surprisingly little that we know about them, and also it is very confusing to read about them because there is a Prion Protein but it is not a prion (bad kind). but there is also a prion protein that IS the bad kind. or something like that.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4seI1rFvOqxx4s4 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:17:59.961795Z
       
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       and therefore i can say it's ethically wrong that predators cause harm to their prey
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4tswkqjewbHaftw by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:18:12.391024Z
       
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       @mario @katkat i do
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4vHMxX3iidSVoga by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:18:27.716558Z
       
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       i wouldn't kill you :hug:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4wPlVnkx8xsXPfs by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:18:41.175972Z
       
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       @errante @katkat @mario @mer insane how indestructible prions are. shit's scary
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4y1s1c5a5R2M1i4 by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:18:57.240245Z
       
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       @mario @mer @katkat it would be ethicallt wrong if you did harm but i dont think irs ethically wrong for a log to fall on a person even if it did cause harm
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa4zfyxxnjw86O0gq by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:19:18.965418Z
       
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       @mario @katkat >There are humans with a similar level of cognition to farm animals. Still it would be unethical to kill them (i.e. for food)there are two reasons why that's on a whole other level:1. there's a slippery slope with an authority deciding who is too dumb to live when humans are generally no eligible for slaughter but are known to want to kill each other for bad reasons2. there's little to be gained from the corpse of someone when there's no infrastructure to butcher them and hygienically eat them, not to mention the prion problem. There's actually some cases of people dying voluntarily to offer their corpse for a reason: one american football player with CTE killed himself making sure his head was intact so they could scan him and make sure he did have CTE.>Carnivores killing prey isn't ethical but also not something we can stop in a meaningful way, in contrast to our actionsdebatable, it doesn't disturb me but I do believe we could do with more ehtical agriculture
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa52QNeQYUqbtF7lg by errante@rot.gives
       2023-03-13T18:19:44.855634Z
       
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       @meso @mer @mario @katkat prio protein when misfolded causes prion diseasws
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa535p2LdlR8hN4e8 by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:19:52.500Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro either way I have reasons to care for humans but 0 reason to care for animals besides them not going extinct or smth
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa54JUmzoj3puTydc by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:20:06.798279Z
       
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       @errante @mer @mario @katkat yeah I know
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa56bhSHfEOsJV65w by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:20:33.718593Z
       
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       @meso @mario @errante @katkat https://cdrom.tokyo/notice/ASdfpqkvjdFRMXUIbY
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5KWQGhXGMYv63cW by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:23:02.568Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro yeah sorry chicken but I'm hungry and you'll have to wait for your respawn timer
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5LnWMcE4xshYXaa by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:23:16.436405Z
       
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       @mer @mario @errante @katkat I don't get how it infects you from eating it. I guess it gets absorbed into your body? Spooky
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5O7lEKrX7EVcRkm by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:23:40.470989Z
       
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       i'd say the necessary precautions that would have made the log unable to fall on the person were missing is negligent and therefore ethical wrong.but now i'm grasping at staws.ofc accidents happen and some times there are no people to blame for to give an ethical evaluation.however, if i'm able to separate a predator from it's pray while still providing it with all necessities, then i think it's more ethical to do that than to let the predator kill it's prey
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5TNYl1VG9gEI5ZY by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:24:41.795705Z
       
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       @meso @mario @errante @katkat I hate that with a small background in biology I usually get the gist of most stuff that can be explained to me but prions make zero sense.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5VETlksbI63qEGO by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:25:02.038638Z
       
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       @meso @errante @katkat @mario I don't have the hubris to believe they aren't a thing tho
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5YEpqt4ma4PbUVU by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:25:31.260912Z
       
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       @mer @mario @errante @katkat it may be a different cause but prions are most likely one
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5YxtzKXpTqGsvhY by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:25:39.208279Z
       
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       @mer @errante @katkat @mario only plausible one
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5dxOUe8phiMX9eK by dushman@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:26:33.519086Z
       
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       @mario @mer @katkat @meso >There are humans with a similar level of cognition to farm animals. Still it would be unethical to kill themAre you talking about mentally disabled people?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5hBeM6GMEnTUe8m by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:27:08.310254Z
       
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       @dushman @mario @katkat @mer no, about mischiveoustomato
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5iB9fQSeJYFc0um by meso@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:27:19.061837Z
       
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       @dushman @katkat @mario @mer cc @mischievoustomato@beefyboys.wi
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5le5WJG569eKEng by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:27:56.076517Z
       
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       >1. there's a slippery slope with an authority deciding who is too dumb to live that's why my ethics say there is no decidability in regards to killing and we shouldn't kill animals just like we don't kill humans>2. there's little to be gained from the corpse of someone i'd say food is also >little< since there are vegan alternativessorry, but it's also about killing, not dying voluntarily i hate doing this, can we stop soon please? :blobfoxpleading:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5nbJBcBuQ74eMOu by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:28:17.723296Z
       
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       i mean it's not like i can stop you
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5sWr5bDFnkXrF5c by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:29:10.799Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro you want to though
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa5wS3DP6L80WOrE8 by Kagekokoro@bae.st
       2023-03-13T18:29:53.870258Z
       
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       @katkat @katkat @mario He is a very tolerant person, trust me
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa607pcWKwGSNnDgu by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:30:34.495555Z
       
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       @mario @katkat yeah okay we're doneit's hard to not be edgy about this when you're a vampirepilled feralcore cannibalcel country boy like me :pensivecowboy:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa61W6FmFLM0sEiYa by w@arachnid.town
       2023-03-13T18:29:52.184647Z
       
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       @mario I think it largely depends on what the actual video is. Depicting animal cruelty is very different compared to just standard slaughtering procedures.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa683RshSHtBETCzo by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:31:59.425024Z
       
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       i understand, i'm really radical when it comes to animal rights but am aware how impotent i am when it's about doing anything about it :sad_cat:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa6cU6s8fhkYW9ZjM by dushman@asbestos.cafe
       2023-03-13T18:37:29.083265Z
       
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       @mario @mer @katkat Never saw anything that made me care much about it
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7U1boJxXnnb9eFM by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T18:46:52.419307Z
       
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       @mario @katkat Of all the reasons I've read or heard supporting the idea of not killing animals to eat this has to be the worst.Animals kill to eat, there's predator and prey.There's very few exceptions and one of those exceptions is a starving animal eating one of it's own species to survive, which humans have done too.Biologically speaking humans are omnivores, to have a healthy and balanced diet we need meat. Yes, you COULD do without, but it's something that requires a lot of attention because our body is not made for it and even then I never met a vegan that looks absolutely healthy, they're often pale and sickly looking, not to mention that excessive farming to feed a vegan lifestyle in huge numbers would also be unhealthy for the ecosystem, but this is beyond the point I wanna make right now, which is that if you wanna support the idea that animals shouldn't be killed to eat then saying "Only if you'd kill humans for the same reason" is not a valid argument in my opinion.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7akqn1iIfqoMzzM by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:48:22.139929Z
       
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       >I never met a vegan that looks absolutely healthyLewis HamiltonVenus WilliamsNovak DjokovicTimo HildebrandSerena WilliamsArnold SchwarzeneggerLawrence OkolieFiona OakesAndreas KraniotakesCarl LewisPatrik BaboumianBenedikt HöwedesDirk NowitzkiJohanna JahnkeKendrick Farris
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7lsUIyIIgit9mjo by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T18:50:11.888252Z
       
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       @mario @katkat Nice list of very rich people that can afford dieticians and top quality food right there. Now, have you MET a regular non rich person who chose a vegan lifestyle while looking as healthy as any of those? I have not.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7piZrlAAF93aaRs by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:51:08.164225Z
       
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       @mario @katkat @raccoon I don't know about all of them but arnie is an edge case, guy was on roids and his protein intake needed to be so high, going full supplements wasn't much of a stretch
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7pqrWxN30q9uo5o by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:51:06.278913Z
       
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       Yes, I have.Also that's not only a list of very rich people, but especially of very fit people.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7tcuokkiQk7Fjhg by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:51:47.007319Z
       
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       Still vegan and buff af
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7vmEx3SqaF4hC3E by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T18:52:01.971396Z
       
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       @mario @katkat Who can afford paying for professionals that can follow them.And cool, nice that you met them. I have not.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7xZubrT7kaQ2WtU by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:52:29.473343Z
       
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       but he has no hair!!! :blobcatopenmouth: probably because of the protein deficiency!
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7y1aiwzr2Qqx2mm by YTFoidLover1488@poa.st
       2023-03-13T18:52:35.758271Z
       
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       @mario @raccoon @katkat All celebrity frauds
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7yHquUaJCrgeCEi by Kagekokoro@bae.st
       2023-03-13T18:52:38.419654Z
       
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       @katkat @mario @katkat @raccoon arni is vegan?! He definitely was not during his bodybuilding career though, plenty of video showing him eating tons of chicken and eggs
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa7zyaD6eL7gIdqHg by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:52:54.676051Z
       
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       You should meet more people I guess :cirno_shrug:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa812RIFqQHvkyeY4 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:53:07.855678Z
       
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       >athletes
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa82LJHZx8ykMqto8 by YTFoidLover1488@poa.st
       2023-03-13T18:53:22.568902Z
       
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       @mario @katkat @raccoon Yes, frauds
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa82neWCaleeL0FnM by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:53:28.953334Z
       
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       @mario @katkat @raccoon I'd go vegan if I was offered free roids and medical monitoring
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8BNnngMIV5BRB7g by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:54:59.535701Z
       
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       >Arnold Schwarzenegger says he's been 80% vegan the past 5 years and his 'bad' cholesterol is now so low his doctor thought he 'might be a different person'>February 22, 2022
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8CjVGU3Nkg1PYtU by YTFoidLover1488@poa.st
       2023-03-13T18:55:15.198998Z
       
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       @mario @katkat @raccoon They all ate meat and juiced when it was go time. Every single fucking one of them.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8D0NjjISf1b1I1I by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T18:55:03.818946Z
       
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       @mer @mario @katkat I'd go vegan if I was offered free monitoring and someone that cooks tasty vegan food for me.Or well, no, I wouldn't. Because there's other bad things about vegan diets.And because I'm a human being, you know, an omnivore.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8EMcsVmU6IskZHc by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:55:32.665Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro 80%
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8IorHUE031Tby3E by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:56:20.326305Z
       
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       We can start splitting hairs and question what it even means to be vegan (It's not just dietary)
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8PCTCc02FzTOKUy by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:57:29.026Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro you may make me stop eating meat but why is eating egg unethicalwe work for each other why is chicken working for us bad
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8PXHZESCqXT6pmK by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:57:36.644050Z
       
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       @raccoon @mario @katkat eh, I like meat a lot but I do end up not eating it that muchIt wouldn't be a stretch for me to go pescitarian/vegetarian. But I'd have a really hard time giving up eggs and meeting my macros.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8TFmiEJmVQfRxFw by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T18:58:18.021982Z
       
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       @mario @Kagekokoro @katkat @raccoon yeah so he wasn't back then, bit misleading
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8TuspQU2EtVcuyu by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:58:19.784968Z
       
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       we work for each other in the sense that we don't enslave each otherwe enslave chicken
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8W0Z9GlXL67Q2M4 by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T18:58:43.542Z
       
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       @mario@hornyjail.pro we work for each other in the sense that we don't enslave each other​:kekw:​
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8ZajRGHg08JwODQ by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T18:59:22.628129Z
       
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       i just pulled up a list of vegan athletes to show that be vegan → have bad health isn't true
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8dbYO9Fmxq9ga3s by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T18:59:51.032938Z
       
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       @flisk @mario @katkat Imagine having to take supplements because you stubbornly defy your nature.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8gCpeWEGI2K08p6 by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:00:33.243117Z
       
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       @mario @katkat the egg you get at the supermarket causes suffering sure but there are ways to get eggs with way less sufferingheck, one of the old ladies I worked at when I was a social worker still had hens in her backyard in the middle of the city
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8glyNrl2h1XM6nA by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:00:37.969282Z
       
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       do you think the animals don't get supplements? :blobcatgoogly:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8h7bnQQ2w7qxNdg by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T19:00:33.099459Z
       
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       @mario @Kagekokoro @mer @katkat By the way, were they all vegan during peak of their career? Cause Arnold wasn't. Just to name one.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8lNuikE33qzqDmy by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:01:30.420377Z
       
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       Carl Lewis
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8omuKH86aEsHNy4 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:02:04.480955Z
       
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       in the sense that there are worker's rights and contracts and stuff :blobcatnotlike:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8otnqdc5BcoIoLI by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T19:01:28.046411Z
       
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       @mario @flisk @katkat Yeah you're right, just yesterday a hyena was in like at the pharmacy because he decided to eat only cabbage.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8ryAQrt2i1sKWvI by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:02:41.848719Z
       
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       yes, that's exactly how i meant that :blobcatgoogly: /s (apparently that's necessary)
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8wDHcbq404KiU8u by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:03:02.289992Z
       
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       @mario @flisk @katkat @raccoon >deer when it sees a fallen chick on the forest ground>OH NICE VITAMINS>*cronch*
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8wOzd4YnkO0OHlQ by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T19:03:20.031820Z
       
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       @mario @flisk @katkat Sorry, I didn't think you'd take a comment about a hyena at the pharmacy literally.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8y8maJUXSgp7OQS by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:03:52.663754Z
       
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       @mario @flisk @katkat @raccoon also rabbits eating their own poop :blobcatgooglytrash:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa8yG4DELnZHWQ4NE by raccoon@stereophonic.space
       2023-03-13T19:03:39.938114Z
       
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       @flisk @mario @katkat Because the point I was trying to make is being ignored so why bother?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa90lccseQNj8iF28 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:04:17.101853Z
       
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       did you miss the point of farm animal nutrition being supplemented or were you just pretending? :think_nyan:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa99lUQk1QFvJAZjE by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:05:55.900137Z
       
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       @flisk @mario @katkat @raccoon rabbit is delicious tho, and honestly as far as poop goes, rabbit poop doesn't smell badnot saying I want to eat it but if I had to eat one animal's poop I know which one I'd pick
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa9OLCcl6Jujrn7Ts by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:08:33.128566Z
       
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       @flisk @mario @katkat @raccoon honey isn't poop, it's arguably vomit (and even then it's trophallaxed/regurgitated from the social stomach, not the regular one)
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa9WRBEPzUBav060O by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:10:04.003685Z
       
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       @mario @flisk this will all be on the test and I will make you write an essay about the commodification of the self and vore fetishes in a capitalist society
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa9Xbti3ZqT7iMdKS by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:10:17.630829Z
       
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       @flisk @mario @katkat @raccoon that would be aphids
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa9aI0AU9e6Hof8RU by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:10:39.835252Z
       
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       i know :blobcatpat2: shouldn't take it too seriously as wellthere's a reason why ethics are mostly discussed by single persons by themselves (in reference to other works) and not in a dialogue form :blobcatgoogly:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa9cHu5owSsYsm2Bk by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:11:08.573105Z
       
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       @flisk @katkat @mario @raccoon and technically correct, I guess there's also the kopi luwak coffee that's a cheat answer.now I look dumb with my place of rabbit poop
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa9h7Sq3uv1dEKVMG by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:11:56.296380Z
       
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       true that
       
 (DIR) Post #ATa9js3DpB26hIexfc by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:12:15.592786Z
       
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       @flisk @mario deal but the pillow talk will be me on an unhinged rant and you have to listen until the end
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaA1aelEfTNxgfRce by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:15:38.248241Z
       
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       now that i think about it i think i got most of my ethics from religion education in school (had a very good teacher, i was allowed to be openly atheist in class) but then i read kant and nietzsche and got disappointed in philosophy and now with breadtube i feel like it's just a circlejerk and i can't know anything anyways so now i try to do stuff that tells me that i can be sure i know it :blobcatgoogly:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaA3jDONzbh5Jsxvc by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:14:47.811419Z
       
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       @flisk @mario oh boy let me get my freud books
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaA3lEAu3QBKKGcQS by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:15:45.609748Z
       
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       @flisk @mario by which I could equally mean a brief introduction to psychoanalysis or the hotel new hampshire by John Irwin
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaA76h3YAWGlqN6gK by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:16:38.441459Z
       
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       i have a very difficult relationship with freuds writings
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaAFkTnVgOaTwI5Qm by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:18:12.411290Z
       
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       @mario @flisk to my defense, I have those because of my background in hypnotherapy, not because I'm a freud stan
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaAUPznwz6tIRFz1M by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:20:50.421179Z
       
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       i read his originals in sleep-deprived nights during a week-long holiday where we did lsd every dayhe's really fucked up
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaAYhGHhMkc0I0O00 by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T19:21:40.144451Z
       
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       @mario @flisk no... you're fucked up
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaAhEibBuiq5IJy4m by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T19:23:09.486803Z
       
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       can't deny that :blobcatgiggle2:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaDqxexllDbw6wufY by Kagekokoro@bae.st
       2023-03-13T19:58:32.056035Z
       
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       @katkat @mario @mer @katkat @raccoon What about vegan gains?He looks fit as fuck and claims to be veganOr Onision (mentally he is far gone but that was before he went vegan)
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaDuNJKr5swMQSdOK by Kagekokoro@bae.st
       2023-03-13T19:59:09.834460Z
       
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       @katkat @mario @katkat @raccoon wait, so he hasn't been 💯 vegan?So he is a flexitarian
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaE1AB45EQ7egpTRw by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T20:00:22.259057Z
       
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       i think the term vegan is difficult as it's not only the diet
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaE5pEbNNy69LhsaO by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T20:01:13.726267Z
       
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       There are endless examples of healthy vegan (including non-rich) people
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaENHBUiEO7l2Zfxg by Kagekokoro@bae.st
       2023-03-13T20:04:23.074094Z
       
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       @katkat @mario @katkat @raccoon Does it encompass the activism as well?Or the general consumption behavior?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaEjK7sSKk5FgOabw by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T20:08:21.652852Z
       
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       general consumption behavior, it's about minimizing animal suffering including animal cruelty, experiments on animals, clothing et al.it's also more of an ideal than an actual reachable goal, that is why i find these purity tests (schwarzenegger being 80% vegan (whatever that even means)) to be stupid
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaF2TSpxfnpiQKaZs by fgaz@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T20:11:38.785098Z
       
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       @mer @mario @katkatThat’s why I stopped eating cephalopods entirely, there is no way to quickly kill them without causing them undue pain.Wait, really? Source? I might stop eating them as well then
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaFHStYMMAWIIyXhI by mer@cdrom.tokyo
       2023-03-13T20:14:29.764577Z
       
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       @fgaz @katkat @mario distributed nervous system gives each of their limb a lot of autonomy, they have no central nervous node you can destroy to kill them in one movementother animals have distributed nervous systems like snails and some bugs but they have such primitive nervous systems, their concept of pain isn't as important to consider
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaGADr7yaThZux2lE by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T20:24:24.780Z
       
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       @Kagekokoro@bae.st @mario@hornyjail.pro @mer@cdrom.tokyo @raccoon@stereophonic.space my brother is a vegan and he's built like a wall
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaGMnJlxHG92LLQ3s by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
       2023-03-13T20:26:42.496Z
       
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       @Kagekokoro@bae.st @mario@hornyjail.pro @mer@cdrom.tokyo @raccoon@stereophonic.space no mario he won't fuck you
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaGUhPjmzBF2ju6O8 by mario@hornyjail.pro
       2023-03-13T20:28:06.590478Z
       
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       :blobcatsob:
       
 (DIR) Post #ATaKZjfRErH5IPu9tw by Kagekokoro@bae.st
       2023-03-13T21:13:52.095959Z
       
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       @katkat @katkat @mer @raccoon @mario if you only knew...