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(DIR) Post #ATPvTaz6ATPOC6TcvY by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-08T18:27:29Z
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@js @dave Uh … my GUIDs are somehow messed up. And I'm not sure if that's on OP3's side or Podcast Index's.According to OP3, The Audacity to Podcast's GUID is 6fe9fe24-c1aa-51c7-b1a4-51538e20c9ad.But no, that's the GUID for my video feed, Podcasting Videos by The Audacity to Podcast.
(DIR) Post #ATPvTbZxxOto2Rj4OO by janagyjr@podcastindex.social
2023-03-08T18:32:04Z
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@theDanielJLewis How is the GUID determined?
(DIR) Post #ATPvTcRUkNiWiSlopM by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-08T18:33:11Z
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@janagyjr In my opinion, more complicated than it should be. 🙁https://github.com/Podcastindex-org/podcast-namespace/blob/main/docs/1.0.md#guid
(DIR) Post #ATPvTcyokUN8NoMQlc by mikeneumann@podcastindex.social
2023-03-08T19:02:52Z
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@theDanielJLewis @janagyjr I disagree. It's quite simple, really. With examples: https://github.com/Podcastindex-org/podcast-namespace/blob/main/docs/1.0.md#guidincluding links to tools and resources to calculate the GUID for your feed URL.
(DIR) Post #ATPvTdh85jokbF5ops by janagyjr@podcastindex.social
2023-03-08T20:00:23Z
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@mikeneumann @theDanielJLewis so it's like a hash. What is the mathematical likelihood of two separate podcasts having the same GUID? (and this is a problem for hashes, it's why password crackers attack the hash).
(DIR) Post #ATPvTeDO9nccDIBa7M by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-08T20:45:23Z
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@janagyjr @mikeneumann @theDanielJLewis The likelihood is so close to zero as to be impossible, because the sha1 that determines it is seeded with a namespace value which reduces the collision set into the millions, which is nothing in hash algo terms.
(DIR) Post #ATQ9gLglkMGpsWsYD2 by janagyjr@podcastindex.social
2023-03-08T23:24:37Z
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@dave @mikeneumann @theDanielJLewis And yet hash attacks on passwords are still successful. Rainbow tables still work and passwords (hopefully) use something better than sha1 to make the hash.
(DIR) Post #ATS6w2CS3xhUWOPDw8 by js@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T19:27:29Z
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@theDanielJLewis @dave I seea podcast:guid of 6fe9fe24-c1aa-51c7-b1a4-51538e20c9ad declared in the feed https://feeds.podcastmirror.com/theaudacitytopodcastSeems right to me?Remember the feed is the source of truth - you need to stick something globally unique in there.Dave is generating a placeholder value as a bootstrap. You can use the uuidv5 algo (nice because it's deterministic), or a "classic" v4 guid if that's easier for you.Important that it's unique, stable and unchanging forever across hosting changes
(DIR) Post #ATS6w2jm44M6BjzpsO by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T19:36:50Z
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@js @dave Oh noes. I have a feeling that's a PowerPress problem. Even though I have PowerPress set to use PodcastMirror.com, I now suspect PowerPress generated that GUID from the PowerPress feed URL instead of using the GUID that already existed for my podcast, or using the Podcast Mirror URL.And PowerPress doesn't let me change the GUID.@Todd_Blubrry, @mgdell, or @Lehmancreations, any thoughts?
(DIR) Post #ATS6w3X36rlqeZ3BgG by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T19:38:03Z
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@js @dave @Todd_Blubrry @mgdell @Lehmancreations And is there any way to decode that GUID to see what feed URL it is?https://www.uuidtools.com/decode doesn't help.
(DIR) Post #ATS6w3z3QkAk3Q9YKe by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T22:03:10Z
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@theDanielJLewis @js @Todd_Blubrry @mgdell @Lehmancreations The GUID is a one way sha1 hash so it doesn't go the other way. The idea is that it is born once in the feed and lives forever as you travel across hosts and platforms. As long as the GUID doesn't change as the feed moves, the world always knows it's you. Like a feed fingerprint.
(DIR) Post #ATS6wA3Wr1Jgt2ID8i by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T19:39:43Z
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@js @dave @Todd_Blubrry @mgdell @Lehmancreations Ah, and PowerPress is putting the same GUID in my separate channel feeds.Ugh.
(DIR) Post #ATSCCAR7hro4TGmS2q by Lehmancreations@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T20:44:48Z
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@theDanielJLewis @js @dave @Todd_Blubrry @mgdell are you using my plugin for guid or PP. @mike is there a way to disable pp from creating a guid for shows that already have one?
(DIR) Post #ATSCCBButtEkoOfoyu by Todd_Blubrry@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T23:00:25Z
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@Lehmancreations @theDanielJLewis @js @dave @mgdell no, there is not
(DIR) Post #ATSCCBh71uBsN9Gjbc by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-09T23:02:08Z
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@Todd_Blubrry @Lehmancreations @theDanielJLewis @js @mgdell I've lost the plot on what the issue is here Daniel. Can you post the two feeds in question and explain what the problem is? I'll do my best to help.
(DIR) Post #ATUDFJxzDdeRAQ8hxg by Lehmancreations@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T01:42:19Z
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@Todd_Blubrry @theDanielJLewis @js @dave @mgdell there needs to be a way for pp to not put it in. The idea is that a podcast always has the same guid if they change feed hosts. And if a podcast already has a guid pp shouldn’t generate a new one
(DIR) Post #ATUDFKlcF7LleLMLJo by Todd_Blubrry@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T21:59:25Z
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@Lehmancreations @theDanielJLewis @js @dave @mgdell A normal podcaster will never know what their GUID is! If we import a show with a guid we will set it in PP and in the Blubrry Dashboard. Otherwise, a PP user will have it set. This is not something we can allow to be changed or manipulated with.
(DIR) Post #ATUDFLFOSPAZ8hI7jU by Lehmancreations@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:01:21Z
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@Todd_Blubrry @theDanielJLewis @js @dave @mgdell is there a way for me to set mine manually then. Can I’m there be a filter so I can turn off your guid and add my own
(DIR) Post #ATUDFLoULvF4tXi9R2 by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:11:35Z
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@Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @dave @mgdell I'm guessing there's a field in my database I can set to fix the GUID manually.The potential problem I'm seeing with PowerPress is that PP could be setting the GUID from the PowerPress feed URL (/feed/podcast) instead of the Podcast Mirror URL, or completely ignoring if there was already a GUID in Podcast Index.In my case, I have two podcast channel feeds from PP using the same GUID: …
(DIR) Post #ATUDFMLSNLc6Xn8Tp2 by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:15:13Z
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@Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @dave @mgdell My main podcast: https://feeds.podcastmirror.com/theaudacitytopodcastMy video podcast: https://feeds.podcastmirror.com/theaudacitytopodcast-videosSame GUID: 6fe9fe24-c1aa-51c7-b1a4-51538e20c9adAnd I can't figure out how I even got that GUID because it's not the same one I get through any potential feed URL (with or without "https://") that I enter into https://tools.rssblue.com/podcast-guid.
(DIR) Post #ATUDFMoAeaa9yqZPZw by Lehmancreations@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:18:05Z
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@theDanielJLewis @Todd_Blubrry @js @dave @mgdell are you setting guid with my plugin too? Mine didn’t do well with more than one podcast per site?
(DIR) Post #ATUDFNQ6NYvJsUJhhY by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:19:26Z
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@Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @dave @mgdell Oh, I guess I wasn't using your plugin for the GUID, Andy. So I can omit you from further discussion if you want.
(DIR) Post #ATUDFO49ycxxsj3h8i by Lehmancreations@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:20:38Z
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@theDanielJLewis @Todd_Blubrry @js @dave @mgdell no iam interested too because there needs to be a way to change the GUID in PP or at least have a filter so I can return my own guid
(DIR) Post #ATUDFOfNkEjxkATQ9o by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:22:21Z
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@Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @dave @mgdell I found the same GUID listed twice in my wp_options table for PowerPress, so I _can_ replace that with the correct GUID. But now I wonder if I should.And, JS, will my public OP3 page properly update?
(DIR) Post #ATUDFPE7f4WtTujAJ6 by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:23:18Z
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@theDanielJLewis @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell I'm building the GUID resolver next so it'll be a little easier to see these changes in near real time.
(DIR) Post #ATUDGDDpmQ0YXUydnc by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:23:35Z
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@theDanielJLewis @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell These are good issues to work through.
(DIR) Post #ATUDNQZaXY0byPapGa by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:24:54Z
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@dave @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell That's exactly why I'm raising them!And I figured out what my GUID is representing!It's actually my sitewide feed: theaudacitytopodcast.com/feed. So I don't know why PowerPress used that instead of the PowerPress default feed or especially my separate video "channel" feed.(I'm using Podcast Channels in PP for this site, not Category Podcasting.)
(DIR) Post #ATUEBXHFt6T9FHuYYC by Lehmancreations@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:27:11Z
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@theDanielJLewis @dave @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell good to know.
(DIR) Post #ATUEBXjcBf9cfFBCkq by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:28:38Z
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@Lehmancreations @dave @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell So now I'm wondering whether I _should_ change the GUID, which one, and which feed I should use.And wouldn't Podcast Index have already generated a GUID for me before PowerPress did?These are issues no podcaster should have to think about or try to fix. I don't mind working through them, but I hope others don't run into these problems, too.
(DIR) Post #ATUEBYamzxglKA3fdY by Lehmancreations@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:30:08Z
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@theDanielJLewis @dave @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell yeah I don’t mind it either but other podcasters should have to. I think Podcast index takes the idea feed is source of truth so it would replace guid in index with what is in the feed.
(DIR) Post #ATUEBZlocS6QyeDzSi by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:33:56Z
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@Lehmancreations @theDanielJLewis @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell Yes, feed always wins.
(DIR) Post #ATUEIjQv5hCmyPrZXE by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-10T22:35:14Z
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@dave @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell And any third-party app (like OP3) _should_ update to the GUID I switch to?I want to ensure I don't break the Internet by changing my GUIDs for both feeds.
(DIR) Post #ATUfhtmOSSJv428FyS by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-11T03:42:20Z
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@theDanielJLewis @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell Yes that’s right.
(DIR) Post #ATUovHKz53u9Tnlac4 by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-11T05:25:35Z
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@dave @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell Here's an interesting followup.PP apparently never set the GUID for my second channel feed. I went into settings for that channel, updated my copyright year, saved, and then that feed had a new GUID, now separate from the main podcast feed.It's still, surprisingly, using the /feed/video feed URL directly from PowerPress instead of the Podcast Mirror URL PP is set to use for that feed.But the actual value to generate doesn't matter, right?
(DIR) Post #ATV1Lc9hV8d51aoTPk by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-11T07:44:49Z
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@theDanielJLewis @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell That's right. Once uniquely generated, the value isn't special. It's fine.
(DIR) Post #ATxHK4MaSZl4rAUqVU by theDanielJLewis@podcastindex.social
2023-03-24T17:22:46Z
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@dave @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @js @mgdell A followup to this.A recent PowerPress update apparently "fixed" this, but I think it also regenerated by GUIDs—at least from the proper channel URLs this time (but not from the Podcast Mirror URLs).So that means my feed has yet another different GUID again.
(DIR) Post #ATxavl7oKmFxK6GpN2 by js@podcastindex.social
2023-03-24T17:25:11Z
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@theDanielJLewis @dave @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @mgdell That's ok. Important thing is that is declared in the feed, globally unique, and doesn't change going forward.I'll make sure your guids are updated properly in today's OP3 update
(DIR) Post #ATxavmAgRa9GZIcdUG by dave@podcastindex.social
2023-03-25T02:35:26Z
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@js @theDanielJLewis @Lehmancreations @Todd_Blubrry @mgdell All good Daniel. I’m still sorting out the dup and reduction logic on my side. Hope to have that finished soon.