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(DIR) Post #ATU2tWhADM4wjREurg by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:27:26Z
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A few people asked me to comment on the Georgia legislation giving legislators oversight of prosecutors.I considered writing about it for this week's blog post, but Anna Bower did some of the research I planned to do. You can read it here:https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1633604610681085962(I may still write about it this weekend).Prosecutorial independence is what we call a democratic institution.The question in any form of government is: Who makes prosecutorial decisions?1/
(DIR) Post #ATU37RM4rizWDx0lJQ by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:29:57Z
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In an autocracy, the autocrat decides. As our government is set up, the prosecutor decides.Prosecutors have a lot of discretion in which charges to bring or not to bring.Legislators would also like to decide.The public would also like to decide.The power to prosecutor is a lot of power and everyone wants it.2/
(DIR) Post #ATU3GdpXqtFLWPBLNY by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:31:37Z
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I had an ongoing private argument with a well known lawyer on Twitter (who I will not name) in 2021. This person insisted that Garland needed to account to the "public" about what he was doing.I argued that the public should not decide. As I read the Georgia legislation, it is more about forcing prosecutors to bring cases they don't want to bring.It sets up an oversight commission.3/
(DIR) Post #ATU3l24wGJ03PisEwC by Enema_Cowboy@dotnet.social
2023-03-10T20:37:03Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Was it this guy?
(DIR) Post #ATU3mMQk53ACp5hoJ6 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:37:21Z
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The version I read allowed a prosecutor to be removed or retired early for cause.So they can remove a prosecutor.Let's take a worst case scenario:Oversight commissions take time. Let's say 6 months from now Willis has brought charges, so the case is proceeding, and the oversight commission removes her.Well, then another prosecutor in her office takes over. I don't see a provision that allows the legislation to appoint their own person. 4/
(DIR) Post #ATU407PUio0GIEgMHw by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:39:50Z
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So the prosecution would continue someone from Willis's office leading the case instead of Willis. So the case would continue along with a huge scandal: A GOP led legislature has now stepped in to protect Trump.Remember, Georgia is a state that voted for Biden. Even most Republicans there don't like Trump.I don't see them ending the prosecution. I see them setting off a political bombshell. 5/
(DIR) Post #ATU4AISqTgc3TM6RcG by PennyG@mstdn.party
2023-03-10T20:41:38Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thanks for that analysis. It does make me feel better. I did read that the proposed bill is aimed at prosecutors who have already announced they will NOT prosecute for abortions.
(DIR) Post #ATU4Ej87HGQpKhWGzA by dcdeejay@mastodon.online
2023-03-10T20:42:26Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thanks! JJ deserves a treat. #TeamJJ
(DIR) Post #ATU4I591sqkgTlXwHo by GregCirillo@newsie.social
2023-03-10T20:43:03Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Agreed. Like a lot of "conservative" state-level legislation these days, it seems to be "show legislation" passed for the purpose of setting up the signing ceremony. Many prosecutors are pre-politicians and they are not going to be cowed by the threat of a legislative inquisition.
(DIR) Post #ATU4JAHsFUdYibCRsG by david1@mastodon.world
2023-03-10T20:43:15Z
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@Teri_Kanefield This wouldn't be a problem if we brought back private prosecution.
(DIR) Post #ATU4LiMGXs1yxyTBei by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:43:45Z
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I don't want to disrespect the people who saw the reporting and became alarmed.There is a good reason for alarm: The far right wing is not going to give up. They will keep looking for ways to unravel our democratic institutions and set up whatever you want to call what it is that they want.The Marjorie Taylor Greenes of the world will not suddenly give up and say "oh well it looks like Trump has been indicted. Let's fold up shop and give up."They will keep fighting back. Hard.6/
(DIR) Post #ATU4VagHwXge3IXopc by zleap@qoto.org
2023-03-10T20:45:33Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Indeed the UK government has been reprimanded by the supreme court for trying to interfere with judicial decisions.
(DIR) Post #ATU4ZAjqL6RGkbunC4 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:46:10Z
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Some of the alarm comes from thinking that there is one thing that can happen that will destroy democracy. Some of the anxiety comes from thinking that there is one thing that can happen that will save democracy.Nope. See this post if you missed it, including the graph at the end.https://terikanefield.com/he-changed-the-face-of-america/Keeping a democracy working is a never ending struggle against forces that will not go away.7/
(DIR) Post #ATU4zgAw51LtmQE81o by hinano@mstdn.io
2023-03-10T20:50:55Z
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@Teri_Kanefield case in pointhttps://www.propublica.org/article/leonard-leo-teneo-videos-documents
(DIR) Post #ATU53iXFFRk8G0aTVg by SueShannon@mstdn.party
2023-03-10T20:51:40Z
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@Teri_Kanefield So, isn't one of the reasons that prosecutors are the decision makers on prosecuting is because they know all the info involved, which is not knowable, especially in a legal context, by the public, and presumably legislators? Can this compel or pressure a prosecutor to bring a case that doesn't have merit, and will be dismissed? Which would prove the prosecutor's point but mess up his holy win percentage?
(DIR) Post #ATU5khNpPGht8Xg5KK by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T20:59:27Z
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@SueShannon Exactly. That is the problem. But this does not prevent people from saying, "We know he's guilty! We have seen the evidence on the Internet!"The thing about being a prosecutor is that you will always have people who hate your decisions. Prosecute and people will hate. Don't prosecute and other people will hate.As a defense lawyer I was usually disgusted with the decisions prosecutors made.
(DIR) Post #ATU5rNyfxGAmyi6MEq by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T21:00:39Z
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@SueShannon I would have liked to have quote tweeted your question with my answer so more people would see it.I understand that the quote tweet function is often abused, but I learned to be careful with it.
(DIR) Post #ATU64wPJG2ahWZ1UNE by EvilSandmich@poa.st
2023-03-10T21:03:10.118460Z
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@Teri_Kanefield >Far Right>Marjorie Taylor GreeneLol.
(DIR) Post #ATU6FpKLvAhOketYrQ by PDFlynn@universeodon.com
2023-03-10T21:05:04Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thanks so much as always, Teri. A few days ago I posted links to a few articles describing all these lawsuits being filed against the state of Florida & DeSantis over the various legislation they"ve passed. I believe there's at least 4 and counting. TN is in the process of being sued over the anti-Trans law. I mean, these states are just getting sued left & right, but I wonder if that isn't the whole idea. I assume they're hoping to get conservative judges that will side with them. Then with the conservative SCOTUS, it's a real question mark what exactly will happen with these cases.
(DIR) Post #ATU6RoMVKstjEUcGrw by SueShannon@mstdn.party
2023-03-10T21:07:14Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I still don't understand most of Mastodon - fortunately I'm not much of a content creator...
(DIR) Post #ATU6yKa15NZuQCRWoy by PandaChronicle@ohai.social
2023-03-10T21:13:04Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thank you for keeping me from setting my hair on fire.
(DIR) Post #ATU7BdTU9BYQmqjSgC by billstewart415@infosec.exchange
2023-03-10T21:15:31Z
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@Teri_Kanefield This post was about climate change, but it applies to democracy as well, and š showed them nearby:https://infosec.exchange/@bethsawin@spore.social/110000519546852383
(DIR) Post #ATU8GBvq4rpclbjMhs by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T21:27:33Z
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@PandaChronicle Nobody was ever able to accomplish much with hair on fire.
(DIR) Post #ATU8Q4efzHKx5tPoYq by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T21:29:20Z
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Adding: I do, however, resent some of the large "influencers" who spread the OMG TRUMP WILL GET OFF THE HOOK IN GEORGIA takes, particularly those who are lawyers.I often feel like I'm putting out forest fires with a squirt gun. My life would be easier if people stopped setting fires. 8/
(DIR) Post #ATU8SWz9cw27XQAJaC by dconklin@synapse.cafe
2023-03-10T21:29:46Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Some people have ālearned to be carefulā with guns also, but that doesnāt mean they should be freely available to everyone!
(DIR) Post #ATU8VNEULMsK9wh2v2 by PandaChronicle@ohai.social
2023-03-10T21:30:15Z
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@Teri_Kanefield ā¤ļøokay, now I am going to fan girl for the rest of the day because you replied to my toot. #HairOnFire
(DIR) Post #ATU8swSrWDTQ5beef2 by DrewKadel@social.coop
2023-03-10T21:34:32Z
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@Teri_Kanefield It's the very idea that simple one-time solutions will fix anything/everything and do away with all evil dynamics.One of the evil dynamics imho is the influencers who exploit this widespread fallacy to enhance their prominence, wealth, etc. Alas, that is also a dynamic that throughout time ebbs & flows & interweaves and does not *simply* disappear.
(DIR) Post #ATU92x6K0VQkxWsvFA by mentallyalex@lor.sh
2023-03-10T21:36:21Z
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@Teri_Kanefield You are tireless, you know that. I really appreciate you, and I hope you now know that. :)I think that Mastodon will help reduce a lot of that naturally. People seem to appreciate the more intentional nature of the environment. Twitter exists in a controlled state to force that loopback. On here, one might follow you, and even looking at their account - but the odds of seeing those 'rage bait' accounts are really low. I think the low-engaging bullhorn people will die off naturally? I hope?
(DIR) Post #ATU9J6GBin6E00CR60 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T21:39:16Z
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@dconklin Good point. Whenever I criticized someone, I took a screenshot and removed their name. When I was agreeing, I just did a quote tweet. That way I would not invite a pile on.But once in a while people misunderstood me (or I wasn't clear) and they thought I was criticizing someone I was quote tweeting and there was a pile on.I immediately deleted and apologized to the person.It can easily be used to invite pile ons.
(DIR) Post #ATU9ilvfvwd6TOqX9E by failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to
2023-03-10T21:43:55Z
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@Teri_Kanefield about once every six months, I run across a post along the lines of "Garland is in the bag" etc etcand I very politely say if you listen to actual experts like Teri, this is not trueand NOT ONE Of these people has indicated the slightest doubt in their expertise
(DIR) Post #ATU9znksOlRr3huovQ by bruce_korb@mstdn.social
2023-03-10T21:46:57Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I do have to say, tho, that *MY* life would be easier if tRUmp hadn't started so many fires in the first place.š
(DIR) Post #ATUASBfP5YpdKOtIkC by bruce_korb@mstdn.social
2023-03-10T21:52:06Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Those saying it will have an effect on tRUmp's prosecution(s) are mistaken. Most of the competent commentators I've read are talking about full effect of the law next year. I sincerely hope that "next year" won't have tRUmp's indictments still at issue.Yes, when going for the king you can't miss. If the king were to be re-crowned, it's a miss. Also, his minions need sanctions, too. Otherwise, they'll align with someone else.
(DIR) Post #ATUAjPP1GyJSqrRITw by bruce_korb@mstdn.social
2023-03-10T21:55:10Z
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@Teri_Kanefield MTG will find a new tRUmp. She/they will not give up, true enough.My speculative theory of the case, that also explains the overall behavior of the Republican Party: the party is sold out to oligarchs who, in turn, are largely in cahoots with the Russian Mafia. If that is not true, then the party still behaves as if it were, so it's more of a distinction than a difference.
(DIR) Post #ATUBybw93KZG1XkKZs by tarheel@mstdn.io
2023-03-10T22:09:09Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Ā«Keeping a democracy working is a never ending struggle against forces that will not go away.Ā»I tend to say something similar, but I use more apocalyptic language.
(DIR) Post #ATUDyY2XjzNrqXpwMC by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T22:31:36Z
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Here are the two bills: Here is Bill 231: https://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/63985This bill creates the oversight commission "which shall have the power to discipline, remove, and cause involuntary retirement of appointed or elected district attorneys or solicitors-general.āThe second Bill lowers the threshold required to initiate a recall of a prosecutor to just 2% of voters, 30%.Ā https://legiscan.com/GA/text/HB229/id/2679838It doesn't mean the prosecutor is recalled. It means there will be a vote to recall.9/
(DIR) Post #ATUEBcEbSOJocVi0bw by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T22:33:58Z
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Republicans in Georgia insist that this is because they are tired of prosecutors who are not "tough on crime."I'm just not seeing this as a way to shut down Willis's investigation of Trump.I'm seeing it as a more general power grab. I don't see any need to write about this for my blog post.A few large social media accounts pushed this as a ploy to let Trump off the hook, but I don't think that theory is widely believed.Unless you all think that there is a general alarm over this.10/
(DIR) Post #ATUEYITR5pbVzfShvs by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T22:38:04Z
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@failedLyndonLaRouchite the 'evidence' that he is in the bag appears to be that (1) we are not seeing the indictment they want or (2) the "experts" found evidence that Obama's team that vetted Garland for a SCOTUS nomination and Biden's team that vetted Garland for AG missed.I know how it feels to be frustrated with the decisions made by prosecutors. I was often frustrated as a defense lawyer.There are definitely bad prosecutors out there, but no real evidence that Garland is "in the bag"
(DIR) Post #ATUElkDfFMXJoGUt8a by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-10T22:40:28Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Prosecutors aren't tough on crime though. If they were, Trump and the GOP would be in jail.
(DIR) Post #ATUEudyVpgPB37ea9o by SueShannon@mstdn.party
2023-03-10T22:42:05Z
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@Teri_Kanefield This does feel like the greater effort to crack down on prosecutors. I'm in the Philly area, and the state legislator is trying to recall the Philly DA - Krassner is not my DA, but he was recently re-elected by the citizens of Philadelphia. The state legislators think they know better.
(DIR) Post #ATUFTDtKnoBsHviikS by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T22:48:21Z
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@neoczo This is illogical.If I give you two posts to read so you can understand why I say that, would you read them?(I am a former criminal defense lawyer)
(DIR) Post #ATUFUL8zK6i74SZhE8 by Dontgivadam@mastodon.world
2023-03-10T22:48:32Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Great thread from Teri about the Trump / Georgia affair. Usually I run away from 10 part threads due to the fact that I have the attention span of an over-caffeinated squirrel. She held my attention and calmed me down a bit as I too, have been losing my mind over this.Do yourself a favor, give it a read.WELL DONE Teri. #trump #Georgia #terikanefield #politics #law #news
(DIR) Post #ATUFZF3VO4xLdULbt2 by peterbutler@mas.to
2023-03-10T22:49:24Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @SueShannon FWIW, some of the third-party apps now support something *like* quote boosts. I specifically use Ice Cubes (unfortunately iOS only), which enables it.If I make a post with a link to another Mastodon post in it, Ice Cubes will display that post as a quote (instead of a useless link). Iāll post a screenshot:https://law-and-politics.online/@Teri_Kanefield/110000998971958559#QuoteBoost #IceCubes
(DIR) Post #ATUFaT36qRnVKGkMoy by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-10T22:49:39Z
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@Teri_Kanefield of course I would read them. Send them.
(DIR) Post #ATUFg19jSpUgYQUVu4 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T22:50:40Z
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@neoczo great!I just skimmed and I don't answer your comment directly, but if you read both posts, you should have a good idea where I'm coming from.Start here:https://terikanefield.com/all-new-doj-investigation-faqs/Then read this one:https://terikanefield.com/frequently-asserted-rage-inducing-simplifications/
(DIR) Post #ATUFirPQ9wcTC3BWnA by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T22:51:11Z
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@neoczo Although yours is an interesting comment and I may use it (without your name, of course) in this weekend's blog post.
(DIR) Post #ATUFpXoDQkRcQpyAuu by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-10T22:52:17Z
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@Teri_Kanefield it's all yours. Lol. Reading your posts.
(DIR) Post #ATUFutI6zI26VPVDyC by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T22:53:21Z
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@Dontgivadam Dontgiveadam: Where did your alarm come from? Was it social media? mainstream media?The newspaper articles I read seemed balanced and accurate, but a few social media accounts are misrepresenting the legislation.
(DIR) Post #ATUG1P6Nd2hMu17Ym0 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-10T22:54:24.219507Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @neoczo the most concerning part is that both wings of the neoliberal global economic hegemony that runs the usa do not enforce the law equally. it's pay to win no matter what flavor of it is in use. i for one cannot wait for people to wake up to see that we dont have a democracy or constitutional republic, but something MUCH closer to china's corporate consolidated military dictatorship than anything else. maybe then we will be able to fix the corruption by agreeing on what the problems actually are.
(DIR) Post #ATUGFrYMdzTFCH6Ymu by ATLeagle@mastodon.online
2023-03-10T22:57:06Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I'm in 100% agreement that this is much less specific than protecting Trump. The election run up on fox news was screaming about weakness on crime, whether it exists or not.I have much more anxiety that some of the people pushing this were part of the false electors scheme. They are using tough on crime as the way to keep people from paying attention to their clown games.
(DIR) Post #ATUGoES01DaA3dW4Dw by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T23:03:21Z
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@jeff Jeff, you lost me with "neoliberal global economic hegemony."What the heck is that?In simple terms please.
(DIR) Post #ATUHGBF9XK1aDdpmIi by Dontgivadam@mastodon.world
2023-03-10T23:08:22Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Hard to say. Probably more so from mainstream media. I mostly watch MSNBC. I watch Ari and Rachel mostly. They havenāt come out and directly said this was a ploy to protect 45 but they do sort of leave it hanging there. The timing of this legislation is interesting as well to me. The Why now? question is key given that laws already exist that permit the removal of DAās. Just not easily. Shouldnāt be easy. To your point, itās a power grab.
(DIR) Post #ATUHkeiuUlEqKxHiRU by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-10T23:13:48.243923Z
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@Teri_Kanefield this is a term used to describe the uniparty style dynamics in the usa federal government in which there is a unified shared interest between the establishment right and establishment left. the "left wing" are corporate sell outs who promise hope and change and the "right wing" are corporate sell outs who promise smaller government. in reality the political polarization they enforce props up a stagnation that lets them run unopposed.
(DIR) Post #ATUHwPmfrgPNTjeW1I by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T23:16:01Z
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@jeff I still don't know what the heck you are talking about.I don't think you know what you are talking about.Who are these "corporate sellouts"? Name a few.
(DIR) Post #ATUI0bDZIQoY69E9Oi by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-10T23:16:42.265326Z
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@Teri_Kanefield i mean for one pelosi and schemer
(DIR) Post #ATUI848cAcxTorTESO by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-10T23:18:01.787669Z
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@Teri_Kanefield wait... you are supposed to be a professional, how tf do you have no concept of the usa's political uniparty?
(DIR) Post #ATUIBVAm70FOXF7Stc by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T23:18:46Z
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@jeff The spelling is Schumer.I am as far from you politically as I am from MAGA people.In other words, you and I will never see eye to eye. Trying to talk to you would feel like trying to talk to a hard core Trumpster.I will block you so we don't annoy each other.
(DIR) Post #ATUIFRzvrG9HqYvlVg by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-10T23:19:24.470077Z
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@Teri_Kanefield you kind of sound like an intellectual fraud so i dont mind.
(DIR) Post #ATUIR0cfSqZIQ2YoIC by ShadSterling@mastodon.social
2023-03-10T23:21:13Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I was concerned until I read your earlier posts, which were the first I happened to catch that actually described the changes. I think itās possible this (maybe in combination with some other effort Iāve missed) could be used to prevent the current investigation from going to prosecution, but to be concerned again Iād need a similar description of a plausible path to that, which I have seen so far
(DIR) Post #ATUISsjPm4tGWYbpui by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T23:21:55Z
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@Dontgivadam I don't see that stuff because I get all my news from print media.I do follow both Melber and Maddow on Twitter because once in a while they have interesting things to say, but from what I understand from friends who stopped watching Maddow, she is exhausting. I did find this, though.
(DIR) Post #ATUIZeg4QPluxoH60m by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T23:23:08Z
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@Dontgivadam If was just coming from social media accounts, I probably wouldn't bother with it on my blog, but if it's on cable news (even the implication) my blog readers probably saw it.I have a lot of blog readers who are not on social media at all. Anyway, thanks for the info.
(DIR) Post #ATUJ0jnZUeP8fHhIJ6 by CumskinFoidPuncher69420@beefyboys.win
2023-03-10T23:27:22.019644Z
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I hate Californians so fucking much it is unreal
(DIR) Post #ATUJ1hzLhzTbLBfXzk by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-10T23:28:14Z
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@neoczo @Teri_Kanefield theories with trump and didn't find anything. Everything fizzled. Fir sure many in the GOP are crooks as are most democrats. We have had scum in WDC for most of my life. They get away with it because everyone is willing to overlook it on their own side and just bitch about it on the other. You are part of the problem
(DIR) Post #ATUJ38do6I7wI9H6H2 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-10T23:28:17.203204Z
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@CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @Teri_Kanefield ngl, literally an intellectual fraud tbh
(DIR) Post #ATUJAE5eEuF9Dcg27M by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-10T23:29:39.484540Z
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@CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @Teri_Kanefield these terms are acceptable.
(DIR) Post #ATUJpSBMkXY0nX0gtM by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-10T23:37:11Z
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@Phil@freeatlantis.com @neoczo Goodness, nEo, your comment attracted a few trolls. I blocked that person. Two people just told me that Democrats are crooks. Block and block.
(DIR) Post #ATUKFAmi3YXuMwk1Oy by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-10T23:41:49Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Lawbreakers are everywhere. The GOP -George Santos- elects them. Sometimes, truth hurts. Lol.
(DIR) Post #ATUKU75A6VWFEKUpiy by anathema_device@bne.social
2023-03-10T23:44:30Z
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@Teri_Kanefield "I'm seeing it as a more general power grab." Agreed.With very suspicious timing, unfortunately :(
(DIR) Post #ATUKnJ6NdhZS0iDbpw by CritToNC@mstdn.social
2023-03-10T23:47:59Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Maybe if you ignored these little fires they would die from lack of oxygen.
(DIR) Post #ATUKqMuZvp1ch89rou by Ltrtab4447@mstdn.social
2023-03-10T23:48:32Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Very appreciative of your viewpoints! Thank you so very much!
(DIR) Post #ATUN9vAaz43sM66KPo by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T00:14:30Z
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@CritToNC I hope you didn't intend to imply that I am the cause of these things spreading.
(DIR) Post #ATUNKfzJloMOSGxEwK by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T00:16:27Z
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@neoczo Are you directing that at me? Are you laughing and telling me that the truth hurts?
(DIR) Post #ATUNOqmrYrI56e7Rz6 by PITTERSPLATTER@mastodon.art
2023-03-11T00:17:10Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I really appreciate the clarity on this. Sort of related point I'd like to make. Last week a YouTube channel I've followed for years now made some claims about a different law in a different state being pushed by a Republican. The host of the channel was basically saying that the proposed law would end free expression in America. After doing my own digging I found out that the law never made it out of committe and was also opposed by the states governor.........
(DIR) Post #ATUNXH3Zm8p4tdxAVU by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T00:18:42Z
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@david1 what is "private prosecution?"like vigilante justice?
(DIR) Post #ATUNmPFjaJtKeyr7gW by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T00:21:28Z
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@PITTERSPLATTER It's so sad because there are real dangers. Actual laws are threatening our liberties.The solution is more civil engagement at all levels.but wearing everyone out with this crying of wolf is not productive.
(DIR) Post #ATUNqDVrAx0zPKDKa0 by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T00:22:07Z
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@Teri_Kanefield the intended audience were the hurting trolls. š The conversation it's with you. I'm reading your blog posts and so far it makes sense. It's just difficult for non lawyers like us to see these criminals destroying the country in the name of politics.
(DIR) Post #ATUODxb40DogzjyH3o by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T00:26:25Z
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@Teri_Kanefield after I'm done with the posts, I'm going to ask you about A. Bragg b
(DIR) Post #ATUOdW3X1Nm16jTNLc by Morrisonbobby@mastodon.social
2023-03-11T00:31:01Z
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@Teri_Kanefield hey beautiful how are you doing today I hope everything is going well with you and your family
(DIR) Post #ATUOf8psKBrVfcrOaG by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T00:31:21Z
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@neoczo might be better on the blog post itself.
(DIR) Post #ATUOjYYIeYbqaSkEEK by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T00:32:09Z
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@neoczo I totally understand. That's why I put in dozens of hours writing those posts.Thanks for reading.
(DIR) Post #ATUOuLti2kF8WauGyu by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T00:34:05Z
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@Teri_Kanefield it's amazing work. Very clear and detailed. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #ATURQFfkvIRwOQicD2 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T01:02:16Z
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@neoczo Plus some good stories, right? Drugs in the back of the truck? The reckless driving story.Another detail from that one. The woman was young, attractive and white. She was amazed, and I mean shocked like total loss of innocence, with the idea that a police officer would actually lie. me = š yeah, they lie
(DIR) Post #ATURl2RTJBvPROwuP2 by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T01:06:01Z
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@Teri_Kanefield lol. They do lie, a lot. Lol. I like that story though I had some doubts. I like the ending but while reading I asked myself, can't the owner of the vehicle consent to a search even if there is a passenger sleeping in the car?
(DIR) Post #ATUS1Z5bh6TLKPbQ80 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T01:09:01Z
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@neoczo The driver can't give consent for someone else.that said, I got lucky with that judge. He was a Carter appointee. Yeah, it was a while ago
(DIR) Post #ATUSPmFQQJC55WjxK4 by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T01:13:22Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I'm sure there is some legal and obscure argument behind that but let's assume she was awake, would the cops ask her for consent to search? Would they not search if she declined even if the owner said yes?
(DIR) Post #ATUTiE6hgK02ev1QEi by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T01:27:57Z
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@Phil @Teri_Kanefield Trump will be indicted. :ablobcall:
(DIR) Post #ATUTnfZP0ECBHW2bFw by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T01:28:55Z
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@neoczo If she was awake, she would have the opportunity to read the sign and tell the driver not to go there.
(DIR) Post #ATUTykhIHPiAMw16R6 by AgeingCynic@universeodon.com
2023-03-11T01:30:54Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Silly question. Answer - WHOEVER pays them - by salary or extra contractually.Perhaps by whomever holds the most damaging evidence against them.True for ANYsystem ANYwhere I think.Not all jurisdictions are cursed with a #RoyalPregogative, but most have an equivalence.
(DIR) Post #ATUUMixIPLSzusvrge by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T01:35:13Z
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@Teri_Kanefield now I see it.Thank God for lawyers. If you had not said it, would never thought of that. :ablobpats:
(DIR) Post #ATUV5YezX2eV19kV7I by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T01:43:23Z
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@neoczo @Teri_Kanefield maybe but indictments are easy to get and are ultimately meaningless.
(DIR) Post #ATUVJ77khultfbfKZE by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T01:45:48Z
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@AgeingCynic I was a court appointed paid by the state of California. Prosecutors were also paid by the state of California. Are you implying that the governor or whoever cut the checks dictated what we did?Biden appointed Garland, but is not telling him what to do. If he did it would be corrupt, not business as usual. If you actually think that the person who pays dictates what the prosecutors (or court appointed lawyers) do, you're in conspiracy theory land.
(DIR) Post #ATUVVJ7Bx1WcKnDYeW by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T01:48:01Z
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@Phil @Teri_Kanefield just read this. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/trumps-manhattan-grand-jury-invite-signals-big-shift/673355/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab
(DIR) Post #ATUWEZqEbopbF3s9Qm by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T01:56:14Z
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@neoczo @Teri_Kanefield they have predicted this before, ad nauseum. Meanwhile Joe Biden is the most corrupt president we have ever had and everybody yawns. If Trump has committed a bunch of crimes, they wouldn't have had to try to make so many up to try to pin on him. All the scum in DC hate him because he showed how corrupt and incompetent they all are and now Biden is doing a great job of underscoring that incompetence.
(DIR) Post #ATUWI9infEnDOI6LfE by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T01:56:52Z
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@neoczo @Teri_Kanefield and this is an entirely biased left wing rag.
(DIR) Post #ATUWQH6G7DQoahwgYy by TruthTeller@mstdn.social
2023-03-11T01:58:16Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I meant write more please
(DIR) Post #ATUWjkjKAwrHzOVQWm by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T02:01:50Z
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@Phil @Teri_Kanefield sometimes I wonder whether trumpets comprehend what's actually happening. They behave like indoctrinated gang members. It's impossible to reason with them.
(DIR) Post #ATUXEkp7sTWBFy0CPY by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T02:07:28Z
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@neoczo @Teri_Kanefield we think the same about you. If you truly researched the Atlantic you would see that it is not a reliable source but it confirms your world view so you accept it. Just maybe YOU are the one who is deceived but you won't try to find out cuz you probably like it.
(DIR) Post #ATUXKxoOV6h1HBcYDo by PITTERSPLATTER@mastodon.art
2023-03-11T02:08:32Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Yeah and for folks like me.......just reading the titles on some of these videos causes immediate panic attacks. Maybe they think it encourages people to pay attention and engage, but I think it wears people out more than anything else. Just tell us the facts, and rally us to the ballot box, don't cry wolf.
(DIR) Post #ATUYonmUSWReoAWQmO by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T02:25:09Z
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@Phil @Teri_Kanefield don't tell me, Fox is a reliable source despite them saying the opposite. š
(DIR) Post #ATUbuaDu4zCeMKnDFo by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T02:59:48Z
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@PITTERSPLATTER The facebook whistleblower testified that strong emotions like fear and anger generate more engagement.I wrote about that here:https://terikanefield.com/socialmedia/
(DIR) Post #ATUeR5gQqYNN6dlVKq by DaveC@toad.social
2023-03-11T03:28:04Z
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@failedLyndonLaRouchite @Teri_Kanefield That said, the system and it's principals give deference and respect to the wealthy and powerful, and Garland is part of that. Plenty of examples of that aside from Trump, including prominent D & R figures. Short of video of bribery, It's usually a personal judgement whether a particular prosecution or non- prosecution is reasonable or appropriate.
(DIR) Post #ATUegWLG0t4S86DbhA by aka_quant_noir@cinematheque.social
2023-03-11T03:30:50Z
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@Teri_Kanefield "Tough on" street crime. "Tough on" illegal protests. "Tough on" the cop city protests. But definitely not "tough on" corruption, or able to counter right wing allies' political power in any way. So much for reform of prosecutorial discretion so it doesn't just target the powerless.
(DIR) Post #ATUhRDABKvReAPQhDk by SETIEric@qoto.org
2023-03-11T04:01:42Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @PandaChronicle Except Michael Jackson. He sold a lot of Pepsi.
(DIR) Post #ATUhxEP2GNmLHIe5Sa by anniesgolden@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-11T04:07:30Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Although people keep talking about it in terms of Trump, I think itās about voter suppression in general (oh, you thought your vote for prosecutor counted? LOL) and abortion in particular (they have a very very long term plan).
(DIR) Post #ATUjP4UymQ86ciGU2C by adufray@mastodon.social
2023-03-11T04:23:44Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I really appreciate the work you do, and admire your patience and persistence. Thank you.
(DIR) Post #ATUjV8fyA6KjJgIZMm by chrisaferr@mastodon.lol
2023-03-11T04:24:49Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @CritToNC Smokey the Bear would have something to say about thisā¦
(DIR) Post #ATUkITg4rn1YdqsLjM by Eka_FOOF_A@spacey.space
2023-03-11T04:33:43Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I would definitely write about the power grab part.
(DIR) Post #ATUkwPOIDxzgvhb6lU by PITTERSPLATTER@mastodon.art
2023-03-11T04:40:57Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Yeah I've been working on a song about this very thing, how our attention spans, fears, and outrage has been monetized online. I hope we can find our way out of this sort of......business model.
(DIR) Post #ATUm0O3rD3Rpv0V3Nw by PhilipMartin@mastodon.social
2023-03-11T04:52:53Z
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@Teri_KanefieldTheyāll probably adjust or otherwise modify the recall procedure within a year or two. The 2% threshold will make it too easy for every Billy Jim Bob and Bubba Leroy Brown DA in the state to get caught up in a recall campaign, which definitely isnāt the intent of the change.
(DIR) Post #ATUtGovdmfbtYiRKJk by timo21@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-11T06:14:17Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I was pondering if the GA law is not for Ms. Willis, but for some future cases involving police and protestors. Race overrides politics in some parts of the country.
(DIR) Post #ATUtmVSVhwsSROvJDs by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T06:20:02Z
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@timo21 I think this is more likely.
(DIR) Post #ATV4L8pCqq7Jv6h1zE by JCzachurski@zirk.us
2023-03-11T08:18:19Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Iām thinking that the GA leg is doing a political thing with potential authoritarian consequences. The leg is Republican -dominated due to gerrymandering and they wish to retain power in a blue tending state. With this commission, they may not alter ongoing prosecutions but they can put a damper on future ones. Prosecutors may worry āIf I prosecute XYZ then the commission will come after me.ā So the goal may be for the leg to grab power while it can.
(DIR) Post #ATVFtKdUXkpHtQifY0 by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T10:27:49Z
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@neoczo @Teri_Kanefield There are no truly reliable sources they all have an agenda and will leave off some facts and over emphasize others or present opinions as facts and ignore information that counters their narrative. They seek to manipulate not inform. If you consider them all on both sides you can get close to the truth. Otherwise you just get distortion.
(DIR) Post #ATVKEjbvHbCZFTRlYm by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T11:16:30Z
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@Phil why are you not a progressive?
(DIR) Post #ATVM3y3zPKoUnOZIvY by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T11:36:58Z
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@neoczo because I have observed, throughout my life that the more power government has, the more corrupt it becomes and in spite of what they say, progressives continually empower government, via centralization. Centralized power always results in less freedom. Why should people in Iowa have to live under the ethos of NYC? The farther removed from the people, the harder it is to control government. Progressivism is a forced lifestyle on many to provide "utopia" for a few but pretends otherwise.
(DIR) Post #ATVNbtOrLu6w8H4Rbk by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T11:54:18Z
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@Phil my friend, you just described the conservative agenda. That's the reason why I asked, most republicans/conservatives reject what they are implementing. Under republicans control government expands grabbing more oower. They created a utopia for a few billionaires while the rest of the countrt pays for it- they forgot about you. 1
(DIR) Post #ATVNdQAczwAs3e8v7A by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T11:54:34Z
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@Phil They want to control women's period and reproductive healthcare, they want to control how you dress, they want to control what you read and they want to pollut the world you live in just to name few. 2
(DIR) Post #ATVNgQ7tcOVUn2IMgC by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T11:55:07Z
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@Phil There is another thing conservatives/republicans tried to do, install a fascist dictator that will eventually turn to them because when a single man control all power he gets bored and want more lives to play with. And for some reason you are worried about progressives when you are the clear and present danger to democracy. 3
(DIR) Post #ATVONPzvyIEEqN4eP2 by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:02:54Z
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@neoczo it is the agenda of government most everything else is pretense. I am not fooled by conservatives either. The press portrays and exaggerates the left right divide and makes it seem worst than it is, while the real problem is more up and down. Democrats and Republicans are equally complicit in empowering big business and together have been moving the US toward a kind of neofeudalism. Both parties are right about one thing; the danger of the other party but nobody polices their own.
(DIR) Post #ATVOiOtBI0rHUAv808 by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:06:41Z
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@neoczo you are believing the bs from the press. He obeyed every court order. Not one action he took was fascist. He is the first guy in many years that tried to reduce government power and the first to not start a war. He did not take one fascist action though all 4 of his immediate predecessors did.
(DIR) Post #ATVOuA6s41y57jvr3A by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:08:45Z
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@neoczo yes and so do democrats but you are too blind to see it. They just want to control different things. Though the pollution thing is bs, you're drinking the coolaid
(DIR) Post #ATVOulOXRJ5KlFTzE0 by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T12:08:54Z
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@Phil selective blindness. All activos he took were fascists.
(DIR) Post #ATVOwgXATzhCGTR3hI by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:09:16Z
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@neoczo name one.
(DIR) Post #ATVPH1iRRGyfkbPMq8 by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T12:12:56Z
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@Phil tried to illegally stay in power when he lost the election. That's a proven sign he is a wannabe Dictator.
(DIR) Post #ATVPLchDtALRbM1v0a by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:13:46Z
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@neoczo the closest thing we ever had to a fascist dictator was Obama. George W. was a close second. The press has been very successful with you, you only see the threat on the other side.
(DIR) Post #ATVPODxmImFblK0ufI by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:14:15Z
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@neoczo you don't know what fascism is.
(DIR) Post #ATVPWZs0jhQM1RIcam by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:15:44Z
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@neoczo never would have happened if we were able to run secure elections. Instead we accept elections that are so sloppy that any side that loses suspects it was stolen.
(DIR) Post #ATVPXOA9kVeE0CAooi by neoczo@mastodon.world
2023-03-11T12:15:53Z
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@Phil none of that is true. You are making up stuff. But there is no moving forward in this conversation. You have a great weekend.
(DIR) Post #ATVPfd2iJGK0T5caf2 by Phil@freeatlantis.com
2023-03-11T12:17:23Z
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@neoczo im not but you are ignorant of many facts because you rely on sources that confirm your world view. You have a nice weekend too.
(DIR) Post #ATVegw8sHawRJ1aKDw by Celticknot@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-11T15:05:39Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thank you Teri. I appreciate so much all that you do. You are one of a small handful that keeps me from jumping off the nearest cliff.
(DIR) Post #ATVlp2ungTouJ8odO4 by RobinSMessing@mstdn.party
2023-03-11T16:25:33Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thank you for this thread, Teri. I had been worried about the Georgia Republicans using proposed legislation to save Trump's ass. You have put my mind at ease.
(DIR) Post #ATVmS3OroabV6bTmxE by DavidPetraitis@toad.social
2023-03-11T16:32:30Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thanks for the great read on Thurgood Marshall and the fight for black equality against Jim Crow racism.
(DIR) Post #ATVnCxlmZAohFmZ9P6 by pammcst@mastodon.social
2023-03-11T16:41:02Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I posted a link to an article by a couple lawyers on another platform that was mostly about the effect it could have on Willis, but someone in Georgia said she thought it was mostly about Deborah Gonzalez in Athens, referencing local rivalry and politics, and that Gaines is a sponsor of the bill. I also shared the thread from Anna Bower which mentions this a little, but the comment and links she provided gave me more context for the history of the bill(s) and changing support.
(DIR) Post #ATVudtgaYbD45NvWvg by LaReinaCroqueta@mstdn.social
2023-03-11T18:04:21Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thank you. Thank you for always explaining to us in a way we can all understand. I appreciate you and your work so much
(DIR) Post #ATW1iPsLWBFSl2Wotc by cxarli@ehr.scot
2023-03-11T19:23:36Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I can see some interesting consequences in districts with racist prosecutors, racist cops, and enough Black voters.
(DIR) Post #ATWGXLulP48UbFqEdc by PhoenixMe@mastodon.social
2023-03-11T22:09:41Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Thanks, Teri. Anna Bowerās thread notes that the origin of the Dems bill was in a real problem, that itās hard to hold prosecutors to account. What might be a viable solution to that? Is there one in such hyperpartisanship?
(DIR) Post #ATWI4CLg5dSSRTekwC by CritToNC@mstdn.social
2023-03-11T22:26:50Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I most certainly did not intend to imply that! The fault for the spreading fire is the one who struck the match; it would have spread without your comments. I apologize and withdraw my comment.
(DIR) Post #ATWIMFH5wvgMjJ7OeO by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T22:30:08Z
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@PandaChronicle I am putting your initial comment thanking me for preventing you from setting your hair on my weekly blog post. Do you want a link to your post, or do you want to stay anonymous?
(DIR) Post #ATWJKDjKoxRTJYvRr6 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T22:40:58Z
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@PhoenixMe I disagree with her about the 'hard to hold prosecutors to account.'I prosecutor who withholds or falsifies evidence will give a defense counsel a heyday. The defendants will all get off scot free if the defense can show that this happened.Prosecutors who are elected can be voted out of office.At the same time prosecutors should not be "held to account" for not doing what we want them to do.As it turns out, I'm writing about that this weekend. Check back tonight or tomorrow.
(DIR) Post #ATWJRecBGMdais7kCu by PhoenixMe@mastodon.social
2023-03-11T22:42:17Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Ah, excellent points, thanks! Looking forward to the blog article on the topic!
(DIR) Post #ATWJoSOEsfexT6TZmy by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-11T22:46:26Z
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@PhoenixMe See? Isn't criminal law interesting?It's gut wrenching, but I always found it to be the most important area of law: What do we criminalize? When do we use state power to punish people?
(DIR) Post #ATWKDQwpNb7cEeZ3cO by PhoenixMe@mastodon.social
2023-03-11T22:50:55Z
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@Teri_Kanefield It absolutely is, and itās why I follow you! š I worked as a psychologist before a medical condition forced me to give it up, so criminal law is both foreign and fascinating for me, for the reasons you mentioned, but also for its role as a democratic institution and its frightening potential to be weaponised.
(DIR) Post #ATWsQbHvdu86Vlsswy by PandaChronicle@ohai.social
2023-03-12T05:14:16Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Feel free to use me in any way you see fit. I am happy to be attributed. Again, thank you for making sense of what going on for us non lawyer folks.
(DIR) Post #ATWsm3pEjl2H6DhGW8 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-03-12T05:18:10Z
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@PandaChronicle I attributed with link: https://terikanefield.com/rogue-prosecutors/