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(DIR) Post #ATH4QPOZmpyXPx6rpo by GreenFire@climatejustice.social
2023-03-02T18:03:40Z
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I know it's not popular because of the 'systemic versus individual' efforts we adopted decades ago, but I really think that we need to make flying unpopular for at least a little while until we get global GHG emissions under better control.as global air traffic increased, CO2 emissions from burning oil grew by even more than those from coal, at 2.5%, with the aviation sector responsible for about half the surge. Oil emissions are running below prepandemic levels, the IEA said.Globally, air traffic in 2022 was at about 69% of prepandemic levels, but in December 2022, total air traffic rose 39.7% compared with December 2021, the International Air Transport Association said. https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/2023-releases/2023-02-06-02/#:~:text=Globally%2C%20full%20year%202022%20traffic,of%20the%20December%202019%20level.
(DIR) Post #ATHG0n1YVoRwcatOee by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-04T16:23:12Z
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@GreenFire Give me halfway-decent train service on land, and halfway-decent ocean liner service. Otherwise you're just campaigning against travel for the masses, since the wealthy will still have all the options (including billion-dollar oceangoing yachts).Aviation bunkers account for something like 3% of global fossil-fuel use, and it's one of the more difficult things to decarbonize. Effort is better spent elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #ATHL8xdXRDfzciNGVs by GreenFire@climatejustice.social
2023-03-04T16:53:28Z
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@publius A lot of people seem to think that contributing "only" 3 or 4 percent to an existential threat makes them blameless for sure. I disagree.
(DIR) Post #ATJkTsCNtulJ8grTge by tuv@indieweb.social
2023-03-05T01:34:50Z
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@GreenFire @publius 3% is actually bigger than I expected, unmistakably bigger than rounding errors. Imagine being a person in a group of 33 that commit a crime, or through inaction, let crime to be committed
(DIR) Post #ATJkTt7oSOhQ0njLCS by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-05T21:14:01Z
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@tuv @GreenFire Without air transport PEOPLE WILL DIE.Air transport makes possible the movement of necessary medical supplies, and relief to disaster-stricken regions when other forms of transport may be impossible. It's indispensible to organ transplants and diagnostic and therapeutic treatments with radioisotopes. It's a vital form of mobility for people in underdeveloped countries which lack rail infrastructure. Or did you wonder why Ethiopia had a brand-new Boeing jetliner to crash?
(DIR) Post #ATThAALWMZ8ZLge5QW by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-10T16:23:56Z
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@MatthewToad42 @tuv @GreenFire I'm not saying that you'd ban all flights. I'm saying that severely restricting them would cause a rapid rise in the price, which would lead to the elimination of tourist-class passenger service. Businessmen travelling to make big deals, and the idle rich travelling for pleasure, would still be able to pay. Probably the airliner would be reduced to a first-class cabin, becoming more like a supersonic bizjet, which the airlines are already investing in.
(DIR) Post #ATTljbJKV5xAvjlyFs by GreenFire@climatejustice.social
2023-03-10T16:29:41Z
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@publius @MatthewToad42 @tuv Less air travel would benefit our warming planet.
(DIR) Post #ATTpGFAW93dtfzuLZ2 by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-10T17:54:43Z
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@GreenFire @tuv Air travel contributes greatly to human welfare. Restricting it would reduce that contribution much more than it would reduce global emissions. In particular, such restrictions would affect the infrequent traveller of modest means much more than the deep-pocketed frequent business or luxury traveller.And mass mobility is one of the most powerful tools we have in trying to attain world peace, without which no climate protective policies will avail much.
(DIR) Post #ATTqP6H8gABOefnAHo by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-10T18:07:31Z
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@GreenFire @tuv Now, give me 300 km/h electric trains with sleeper services, and I can eliminate most domestic air services even in the USA, Canada, and Australia, which are normally considered very difficult owing to the large spacings between their major population clusters.Give me also a thousand ocean liners modelled on the SS UNITED STATES, 3000 tourist-class passengers each, nuclear-propelled so that (in addition to being emissions-free) they can steam at 36 knots over any distance…