Post ATSuGNJm9Rf7Z1A0I4 by shaman@cryptotalks.social
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(DIR) Post #ATSuGNJm9Rf7Z1A0I4 by shaman@cryptotalks.social
2023-03-10T07:15:47Z
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Roman roads have lasted for over 2000 years with some still being used today
(DIR) Post #ATSuMn0NYmdCy798JU by Ascendor@social.tchncs.de
2023-03-10T07:16:55Z
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@shaman And then came cars and trucks.
(DIR) Post #ATSvw1zRwDDLX851Oq by DarcMoughty@infosec.exchange
2023-03-10T07:34:29Z
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@shaman meanwhile, in my city... This was all done about 25 years ago. Sometimes before elections they'll throw a thin layer of asphalt on the streets and call it a day (as you can see by the nearly non-existent curb hovering an inch over the asphalt).
(DIR) Post #ATSwvB34sBf7IBvwsS by gideonstar@mastodon.gideonstar.de
2023-03-10T07:45:30Z
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@shaman Okay. Except for the roads, what have the romans ever done for us?
(DIR) Post #ATSxEKDP14DRDwtSGe by Npars01@mstdn.social
2023-03-10T07:49:03Z
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@shaman Reminder that these roads were built with enslaved conscripts...
(DIR) Post #ATSxenceIsSpxSKHwm by wraptile@fosstodon.org
2023-03-10T07:53:51Z
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@shaman looking at this absurdly complex development pipeline reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9kTeEshewY
(DIR) Post #ATSyoaMwX9bhhgD5v6 by khoji@ieji.de
2023-03-10T08:06:47Z
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@shaman Near our home here outside of Cologne there is a stretch of Roman road that has been covered with tarmac and concrete several times. The modern covering failed after a few years and where it is still there, it‘s full of potholes and cracks. The original Roman road is still undamaged and fully functional.
(DIR) Post #ATSzfruq1gIxTITIp6 by davep@infosec.exchange
2023-03-10T08:16:09Z
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@khoji @shaman I think the same holds for Roman lime-based cement. The main problem being that "repairing" it with Portland cement can trap water inside and degrade any lime-based cement or render.
(DIR) Post #ATSzxwmQgAenlq9uqm by khoji@ieji.de
2023-03-10T08:19:56Z
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@davep @shaman Also, the Romans didn’t include iron reinforcement in their cement, which combines the addition of tensile strength with a pre-programmed limited service life.
(DIR) Post #ATT0FowgXxDOgVTkfI by davep@infosec.exchange
2023-03-10T08:23:09Z
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@khoji @shaman I think Portland cement also has a limited service life of its own (100 years?)
(DIR) Post #ATT0fP5NJcXW0jk5Oy by matthieu@mastodon.weber.fi.eu.org
2023-03-10T08:27:43Z
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@khoji @davep @shaman But the roman roads are not smooth, so driving at modern speeds on them (whether by car or bicycle) is probably uncomfortable (just guessing, I only have experience with cobblestone).Note that motorways covered in concrete IIRC last much longers that the ones with modern aggregate, but they induce more vibrations and are therefore more noisy.So roads are like Jeans: either pure cotton, chafing and durable, or mixed with elastane, comfy and wearing out in a few years.
(DIR) Post #ATT6WYA8nXN3HU8JCC by rrwo@fosstodon.org
2023-03-10T09:33:10Z
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@shaman The roads weren't built by the lowest-bidding contractor.
(DIR) Post #ATT7z4pf1h8QfOii3M by JoeQuinlan@mastodon.social
2023-03-10T09:49:33Z
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@shaman The Roman occupation bequeathed a great road system to the Anglo -Saxons. The Romans built many cities and forts that in time became English cities.The Romans never invaded Ireland. Thus the Irish remained a rural nation without cities, or reliable roads. I was surprised to learn that Dublin was built by Viking invaders.
(DIR) Post #ATT8bqvoduTOqe5ZPE by EngelMichelmann@digitalcourage.social
2023-03-10T09:56:34Z
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@shaman But they didn't have SUVs
(DIR) Post #ATTCDeIaMJy8XESAjI by christine_broesenhuber@home.social
2023-03-10T10:37:00Z
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@shaman + then you look at the conditions of our roads + wonder what on earth we're paying millions of taxes for when they remain crappy anyway
(DIR) Post #ATTEUG3Rx1weAsQBV2 by ponda@mastodon.online
2023-03-10T11:02:23Z
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@shaman And didn't have to carry the weight of tousands trucks every day. Modern roads are purposefully built so that the top layer can be easily replaced.
(DIR) Post #ATTLFRi91vhpf4L9bk by franchesko@mastodon.social
2023-03-10T12:18:10Z
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@shaman Also helps if you don't have literal tons of trucks and cars driving over them.
(DIR) Post #ATTMduMuEZ85RedOIS by alison@mastodon.online
2023-03-10T12:33:48Z
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@shaman@cryptotalks.social It’s all about the base.
(DIR) Post #ATTOjAE8tntjzCAYG8 by gavinisdie@masto.ai
2023-03-10T12:57:09Z
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@shaman man these need to come back
(DIR) Post #ATTVQSkgV0wJcJQ6hU by racuna@freespeechextremist.com
2023-03-10T14:12:28.592937Z
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@shaman modern roads are shit because the maintenances are a good excuse to tax people.
(DIR) Post #ATTZ2kY54zYlgATOgy by DragonZlaver@noc.social
2023-03-10T14:52:45Z
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@shaman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ cue monty python what did the romans ever do for us 🤣
(DIR) Post #ATTb3U8HncKkxnt0Ea by Orthy@troet.cafe
2023-03-10T15:15:18Z
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@shaman Capitalism was in an early phase of understanding, that making money means, selling cheap stuff twice...
(DIR) Post #ATTeRxr9EshrxiEaJc by makemoremusic@mastodon.social
2023-03-10T15:53:17Z
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@shaman modern road engineers ought to be embarrassed by this fact, but they aren't
(DIR) Post #ATU1rkNGHklGchWBtI by Faithinbones@home.social
2023-03-10T20:15:42Z
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@shaman I wish ours would last 20 years
(DIR) Post #AUDfsbjbwmgOrL4oNM by Lassielmr@mastodon.scot
2023-04-01T20:46:04Z
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@shaman looks like the remnants of the Via Appia. That top surface is not original, but still ancient. Via Appia is deteriorating badly and there is a now a restoration project from Rome to Brindisi