Post ATRRWZooLndD8d5f5U by crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar
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(DIR) Post #ATRQtUGJ4lKKbxJOPQ by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:12:13Z
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I may also do a blog post soon on privacy-oriented and/or open source search engines and metasearch engines that are alternatives to Google, etc. What are some of the ones that you all use?
(DIR) Post #ATRQuLjCI4vcQuEiIa by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:12:22Z
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re-edited for multiple choices
(DIR) Post #ATRRAKYqOgTvRm0wFM by Houl@md.ilyamikcoder.com
2023-03-09T14:15:15Z
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@calculsoberic https://sex.rijndael.cc searxng :blobfoxwoozy:
(DIR) Post #ATRRFEUQOhZu46HhZ2 by itzzenxx@mstdn.plus.st
2023-03-09T14:16:01Z
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@Houl @calculsoberic sex is real!!!
(DIR) Post #ATRRGnCMpvlm0Ba9Nw by crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar
2023-03-09T14:14:46.482Z
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@calculsoberic@mstdn.social searx Instanz
(DIR) Post #ATRRGnkOnOzXhjVKQi by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:16:25Z
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@crossgolf_rebel ah, we were just talking about Searx yesterday! I like some of the instances even though the UI isn't "pretty"
(DIR) Post #ATRRHQoJYmISrAdVRo by Houl@md.ilyamikcoder.com
2023-03-09T14:16:10Z
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@itzzenxx @calculsoberic yes!!!!
(DIR) Post #ATRRIiDYKIQR8K3HFo by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:16:41Z
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@itzzenxx last I checked, yes! @Houl
(DIR) Post #ATRRNhUwQewALjZ1l2 by mo@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:17:40Z
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@itzzenxx yes, and it was so cool so we created Sex 2https://sex2.evv1l.space/@Houl @calculsoberic
(DIR) Post #ATRRNvrR1pFStYCBlI by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:17:44Z
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@itzzenxx one way that I test the less well known search engines is by searching for niche or obscure coding/hacking related questions. If I can find what I'm looking for, that's a +!
(DIR) Post #ATRRQdrwNVTXxlixsG by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:18:13Z
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@mo SeXNG? @itzzenxx @Houl
(DIR) Post #ATRRU7pxPkETmASQls by rem@hostux.social
2023-03-09T14:18:50Z
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@calculsoberic I use https://kagi.com Since they are subscription based rather than ad supported, I feel like I am actually using a product instead of being the product. Gives better results than DDG as well.I realize that the idea of paying $10 a month for a search engine is not attractive to most people. But knowing that they don't need to harvest my data for ad targeting is worth it to me.
(DIR) Post #ATRRWZooLndD8d5f5U by crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar
2023-03-09T14:18:12.088Z
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@calculsoberic@mstdn.social what still needs to be UI?You have a search window, you type in your question, press enter and look at the results.I use it because I want to know something, not because it looks great or is fancy.
(DIR) Post #ATRRWaNCHx8YrHB7gW by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:19:17Z
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@crossgolf_rebel that's true, idk ask my fedi followers :bloblaugh: (I think it's a matter of personal preference just like which operating system you use)
(DIR) Post #ATRRjJFhFswnWUjm2C by tomo@azumanga.gay
2023-03-09T14:18:02.705Z
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@calculsoberic@mstdn.social duckduckgo currently, but im looking for something else
(DIR) Post #ATRRjJpV6laTJXUMqG by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:21:36Z
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@tomo people have given some good suggestions in the comments! I sometimes use Searx, Qwant, Mojeek, and a few others. This article had some good suggestions too: https://privacysavvy.com/security/safe-browsing/private-search-engines/
(DIR) Post #ATRRlJQzY5f2fQyXr6 by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
2023-03-09T14:18:10.344936Z
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@itzzenxx what's sex? :blobcatgoogly: @Houl @calculsoberic
(DIR) Post #ATRRlK9es1OEtxsDTc by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:21:57Z
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@getimiskon when an enby and an enby love each other very much... @Houl @itzzenxx
(DIR) Post #ATRRqZ0L5S2qPB0rZY by mo@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:22:54Z
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@calculsoberic well, my favourite search engine is already mentioned :ageblobcat:btw, it has SFW domain https://sx.rijndael.cc/It combines results from all above engines (and some another) for every query by defaultI use it personally, so I try to tune default engines to be as accurate as possible
(DIR) Post #ATRS2syIfwMxo5w1Sq by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:25:08Z
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@mo thank you! I'll mention this one. I was going to explain how you could "hack" searx to find what you're looking for.
(DIR) Post #ATRSStzpUL0cVw3WHw by crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar
2023-03-09T14:22:32.928Z
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@calculsoberic@mstdn.social I wouldn't call it "personal" preferences, but rather: data-saving and tracking-free.
(DIR) Post #ATRSSuahHGV2MHIxkm by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:29:50Z
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@crossgolf_rebel Those are qualities I look for too, oddly enough!
(DIR) Post #ATRSttvnq0Rw8D2wQC by mo@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:34:42Z
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@crossgolf_rebel there is an UI problem with bangs. Bangs give you possibility to use disabled engine, but documentation is just huge table of enginesI'd prefer autocomplete for them, because they unlocks very much power, hidden by defaultMy favourite at the moment is !wa bang, which routes request to Wolfram AlphaAlso, all supported image search engines sucks. Yandex sucks a bit less, but they have too aggressive captcha for searx to support it :(@calculsoberic
(DIR) Post #ATRTPDE09fJawjUNlY by Froggo@estrogen.network
2023-03-09T14:39:24.439Z
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@crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar @calculsoberic@mstdn.social SearX itself is fine, I just have a problem with it being cluttered and there is no contrast between search results and the background
(DIR) Post #ATRTPDsli5vOzAYwJE by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:40:21Z
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@Froggo this instance looks pretty good to me (UI-wise) https://sex2.evv1l.space/ @crossgolf_rebel
(DIR) Post #ATRTQnWUgUKxoStXCC by doktorlond@mastodonmusic.social
2023-03-09T14:40:38Z
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@calculsoberic my something else is ecosia.org - I use it exstensively on my work and I really never end up in a situation not finding what i'm looking for
(DIR) Post #ATRTU2VjPu9rAJ5GPg by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:41:15Z
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@doktorlond thanks, I had forgotten about that one.
(DIR) Post #ATRTYOuY4iRFnSlta4 by Froggo@estrogen.network
2023-03-09T14:41:51.519Z
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@calculsoberic@mstdn.social @crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar Looks fine enough to meLol that url, "sex2"
(DIR) Post #ATRTcCfpW0tN09hTP6 by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:42:44Z
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@Froggo you can thank @mo for that!
(DIR) Post #ATRTj3gZKb0j9WJZ3o by mo@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:43:56Z
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@calculsoberic well, I didn't know my joke will go so viral...@Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRTjH2ffjPmZpktoe by witch111@mastodon.art
2023-03-09T14:43:59Z
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@calculsoberic Keine der genannten None of the above
(DIR) Post #ATRTmmydOZiYURXkn2 by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:44:38Z
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@mo sexarch engine (also sounds like a fork of Arch Linux, Sexarch Linux?) @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRTrlp576g8MIRzIe by mo@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:45:25Z
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@calculsoberic also, IIUC evv1l.space runs on default SearxNG theme (because SearxNG has only one theme out of the box lmao)So every not customized SearxNG instance will look like this@Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRTvuqjUjhjVqCR3Q by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:46:18Z
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@mo you host this one? @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRTwOaSvmW9k4orrc by Froggo@estrogen.network
2023-03-09T14:45:15.625Z
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@calculsoberic@mstdn.social @mo@mastodon.ml Or just simply:Sex Engine
(DIR) Post #ATRU01MPEHxircyJge by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:46:57Z
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@c thanks, someone mentioned Kagi on here too!
(DIR) Post #ATRUDfdKo4BLX7OmWm by mo@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:49:29Z
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@calculsoberic search.evv1l.space (or sex 2) is hosted by @Evv1L He set it up as a response to sex.rijndael.cc, which is hosted by me, and also uses default themebtw, im planning to figure out how to make themes for SearxNG, create rainbow theme and put it on gaysex.rijndael.cc :blobcatgiggle: @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRUUt2kCbV42uUdlo by catraxx@mastodon.online
2023-03-09T14:52:36Z
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@calculsoberic searx.org or riot
(DIR) Post #ATRUVevIBc3mXhNMoq by Evv1L@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:52:42Z
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@calculsoberic wait, how did you got my instance? It's not on SearXNG instances page :blobcatgooglyholdingitsheadinitshands: Btw "official" domain for my SearXNG is actually https://search.evv1l.spaceSex2 is a meme one, like "If sex is so good thrm why there are no sex2?". Now we have it.@mo @calculsoberic @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRUXrql5ypvDJJBGy by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:53:09Z
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@Evv1L Mo told me about it :ablobwink: @mo @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRUiUEFG6az8hMEEa by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:54:57Z
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@Evv1L I'll mention it in the blog post (I'm writing one about privacy-oriented and self-hosted search engines and metasearch engines.) @mo @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRUodIKStFIzhCMzo by mo@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T14:56:09Z
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@calculsoberic this will automatically make your post sexellent :blobcatgooglyfingerguns: :blobcatbadumtss: @Evv1L @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRUxU5C5Fwf1wH8F6 by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T14:57:46Z
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@mo Just what I wanted!! @Evv1L @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRVFQ27sWDpgRONqS by Evv1L@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T15:01:00Z
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@calculsoberic plz don't :blobcatgooglyholdingitsheadinitshands: I'm not sure if https://evv1l.space can survive untill summer. I don't really have time maintaining it (uni problems) and paying for it. Also my pages needs an English translation and under the hood rework, 'cause it's all script based and I don't even use Docker (I should use it).@mo @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRVIrX068TnpsTY2a by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T15:01:37Z
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@calculsoberic The only reasons I can think of to use DDG instead of Startpage would be: - Bangs - Don't want to use a company that pays Google even a minuscule fee - They don't know about Startpage yet - DDG is available as a default search engine in their browser and they don't want to bother with a !s bang or don't know about that either
(DIR) Post #ATRVPseUKTwFL4KAbY by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T15:02:54Z
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@Evv1L oh, all right, no problem. There are lots of other instances I could use as examples. I've been using Docker for a little bit! @mo @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRVSHOhIWqAfF5AB6 by sergeant@qoto.org
2023-03-09T15:03:20Z
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@calculsoberic Searx.org
(DIR) Post #ATRVWunmjaRG2A1kcy by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T15:03:32Z
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@calculsoberic I guess that's a lot of reasons. I use Startpage because of superior results and more comprehensive privacy than DDG. Good results and good privacy is all I'm looking for, and Startpage delivers both.
(DIR) Post #ATRVYHQg5lScV6rzua by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T15:04:25Z
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@sergeant hadn't used that one, but some of the other searx instances, yes!
(DIR) Post #ATRVqc04LglHVqAInA by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T15:07:44Z
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@mo well, it works apparently! @Evv1L @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRWL5heTj2CK25HU0 by Evv1L@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T15:13:15Z
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@calculsoberic I made timeout in SearXNG a bit higher, so it waits engine results instead of dropping error message like "Oopsie, timeout".Also internet on my VPS is garbage, I guess. I'm thinking about moving to IncogNet@mo @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRWPaC53YYc2uSVVY by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T15:14:03Z
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@Evv1L Not too familiar with that! @mo @Froggo
(DIR) Post #ATRWgiciy4tL755mTo by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T15:17:08Z
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@calculsoberic OK, but I had never heard of Qwant. Checking it out now and I'm liking a lot of what I'm seeing. Might think about switching. Thanks for highlighting it!
(DIR) Post #ATRl7tC9AeM54oVk1Y by teleportaura@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T17:55:45Z
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@westmeadow @calculsoberic Or the fact that Startpage is kind of owned by an advertising company which harvests vast amounts of data. It's not like we can audit a search engine and I don't want to trust an ad company.
(DIR) Post #ATRl7tmeytYuu3atw8 by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T17:58:57Z
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@teleportaura Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks. @westmeadow
(DIR) Post #ATRlT38zNLOe0x7kFk by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T18:02:44Z
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@teleportaura fortunately I haven't used Startpage that much to begin with! @westmeadow
(DIR) Post #ATRmQYWGMkx8PPNvBw by FanCityKnits@troet.cafe
2023-03-09T18:13:30Z
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@calculsoberic ecosia
(DIR) Post #ATRmps6KhN4sNdKNkG by dvs808@mastodon.social
2023-03-09T18:17:57Z
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@calculsoberic i've been using startpage for years and were very happy with it. It's basically non personalized Google search results and despite all the bad about Google their search results are very good. Because of the startpage buy out i've been using metager recently which aggregates several other search engines. Results are OK
(DIR) Post #ATRmvhUx26GnEWcdjk by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T18:19:08Z
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@dvs808 I know of it, haven't used it that much yet! Thank you.
(DIR) Post #ATRnu8AyyRhNLf66KG by kattentoots@masto.ai
2023-03-09T18:30:01Z
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@calculsobericSearXNG and LibreX. I've used both of them. :nkotea:
(DIR) Post #ATRo463DjKh7eYDd1k by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T18:31:53Z
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@kattentoots I like that LibreX has a torrent search too! :blobpirate:
(DIR) Post #ATRr3O0xkwrCwHW2RU by someonetellmetosleep@queer.party
2023-03-09T19:05:18Z
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@calculsoberic honestly most of the time I'm searching for a page I've already been to, so I use Firefox's built-in history and open tab searching way more often than I actually use any search engine. But when I do need to use one I use DDG because of bang searches.
(DIR) Post #ATRrrUsYVbG0hwThCK by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T18:42:03Z
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@teleportaura @calculsoberic Startpage addresses that here: https://support.startpage.com/hc/en-us/articles/4521498779156-What-it-means-for-Startpage-now-that-System1-is-a-publicly-traded-company-I would understand not believing them. However, while marketing is one thing, it doesn't make sense to me that they could make statements such as this if they were not true with no legal recourse. If system1 were harvesting user data, I would think they would be much better off remaining mum on the subject.I'm open to being convinced otherwise, but haven't yet come across evidence that is convincing.
(DIR) Post #ATRrrVcziwP71yCma8 by teleportaura@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T18:42:59Z
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@westmeadow @calculsoberic ddg supposedly also doesn't harvest personal data so we're back to square oneedit:And Startpage's privacy policy is more than shady. You neither log my search requests nor collect my IP address and you also don't use cookies? That's great but there's no need to log search queries if they're processed right away and fingerprinting exists. Any service that doesn't explicitly enumerate what they do (which afaik ddg do, i read their policy at some point) is spying on you
(DIR) Post #ATRrrWDrVrtWsJSE2y by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T18:50:54Z
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@teleportaura @calculsoberic I never accused them of harvesting personal data. I said that Startpage's privacy policies are more comprehensive. Specifically, they are headquartered in Denmark instead of the US and therefore subject to stricter privacy laws. Also, wasn't DDG part of a bit of a scandal last year involving whitelisting certain trackers from Microsoft and not coming forward with it until called out?There's that information, but honestly part of it is just vibes (not real evidence, I know), and DDG has always given me untrustworthy vibes.Feel free to use what you want! And if there's serious evidence against Startpage, I want to know about it! Otherwise, Startpage seems to be a good choice for me.
(DIR) Post #ATRrrWmbQhgSc3hyCG by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T18:55:05Z
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@teleportaura @calculsoberic Regarding your edit:https://support.startpage.com/hc/en-us/articles/5012065088020-Startpage-and-user-agents
(DIR) Post #ATRrrXRixoZqfawoIC by teleportaura@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T19:00:24Z
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@westmeadow @calculsoberic Thanks for their link! They do explicitly state that they don't use fingerprinting techniques at the end so I guess that's great, though I can't really imagine that System1 is buying privacy related services just for fun.It then seems like the only truly private search engine is Searx (due to its decentralized nature) which I have not committed to switching over to yet.
(DIR) Post #ATRrrYF00bzb8Q0A64 by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T19:06:00Z
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@teleportaura @calculsoberic Sure thing! Thanks for bring open to discussion. Privacy-focused people can get *very* defensive about why their favorite services are superior, in my experience, so I appreciate interacting with a reasonable person. haha Apparently System1 invested in Startpage because they respect them and want to support them, and also they collect from their ad revenue. Definitely worth keeping an eye on, but seems plausible to me up to this point. I trust and hope that the privacy community would be all over them if there were an indication that they had gone to the dark side. Even DDG's situation with Microsoft was somewhat overblown, imo, because people are so passionate about the issue (and rightfully so).
(DIR) Post #ATRrrZpu4t6g5AH9G4 by westmeadow@toot.garden
2023-03-09T19:07:27Z
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@teleportaura @calculsoberic @teleportaura @calculsoberic And agreed about Searx being the holy grail of private search, but also it's just not strong enough in results to convince me to use it.
(DIR) Post #ATRs1r8ibBeQdyyfWS by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T19:16:17Z
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@westmeadow if one searx instance isn't coming up with good results, maybe try a different instance. https://searx.space/ I have noticed wildly varying results between instances sometimes. @teleportaura
(DIR) Post #ATRsAH369VJpJiMYEa by teleportaura@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T19:17:46Z
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@calculsoberic @westmeadow you use Searx? That's very cool and ig I have to dig more into it
(DIR) Post #ATRskIOwbMbRw6l1ns by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T19:24:19Z
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@teleportaura yes! I like to see what it can come up with as opposed to some of the "mainstream" choices, so to speak @westmeadow
(DIR) Post #ATRwzviF7oxA1CUjdg by EredYasibu@mastodon.ml
2023-03-09T20:11:56Z
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@calculsoberic searxng
(DIR) Post #ATSC4vfSDbTwdh23Xs by crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar
2023-03-09T15:22:08.993Z
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@Froggo@estrogen.network @calculsoberic@mstdn.social I have no idea what you mean.These are clear structures and nothing is cluttered. Nothing detracts from the resultsIs this not rather a setting of the individual Searx instances?#Searx
(DIR) Post #ATSC4wKZkiNKhEGtdo by Froggo@estrogen.network
2023-03-09T22:36:08.020Z
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@crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar @calculsoberic@mstdn.social Idk what happened, but last time I used searx, image results were just carelessly scattered across the page, and other things
(DIR) Post #ATSC4wpPu32sEshWiG by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-03-09T23:00:55Z
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@Froggo oh, that never happened to me but something like that happened on .social once :bulbasaurroll: @crossgolf_rebel
(DIR) Post #ATTW0imAOrqbjtP26y by catraxx@mastodon.online
2023-03-10T14:18:58Z
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@calculsoberic Don't use DuckDuckGo https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/24/ddg-microsoft-tracking-blocking-limit/