Post ATPYNsEooDBX1Q8Gyu by jeff@federated.fun
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(DIR) Post #ATHW6kBpYrWSpqYlIO by blakereid@mastodon.lawprofs.org
2023-03-04T19:21:45Z
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Note that this Dutch abortion pill website is literally #1 on the ISP blocklist in the recently released Texas bill. We're right on the doorstep of the conversation about the role of censorship circumvention tools deployed in repressive regimes, for American Internet users. Also, U.S. ISPs are about to be in the crosshairs of a #NetNeutrality fight, and it's not going to be the usual one where we bicker over economic zero-rating schemes to supplement oligopoly profits. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/dutch-doctor-internet-are-making-sure-americans-access-abortion-pills-rcna35630
(DIR) Post #ATHW6ldACiyrIuM6XQ by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-04T19:23:18.981208Z
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@blakereid why is socially discouraging the practice of elective abortions a bad thing?
(DIR) Post #ATHlErjCusepqOVBrs by lapt0r@infosec.exchange
2023-03-04T21:31:55Z
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@jeff @blakereid this isn't "socially discouraging" this is using the power of the state to bludgeon people who don't subscribe to the same set of beliefs.
(DIR) Post #ATHlEsIIoOjLbEvDZQ by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-04T22:12:03.247982Z
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@lapt0r @blakereid i disagree
(DIR) Post #ATHo4LQcS2UidPTyPw by alienghic@octodon.social
2023-03-04T22:01:40Z
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@blakereid If you're in right wing controlled state like Texas, you might want download a copy of the Tor browser now.https://www.torproject.org/It's frequently used to get around network blocks by repressive regimes. (And can also make it harder for advertisers to track you if you happen to live in a less repressive regime)As example the BBC produced a tor hidden service version of their site to provide BBC news in Ukrainian & Russian. Tor can view regular webs sites, but I think the hidden sites perform a bit better.https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50150981Ideally one would live in a free country not ruled by a repressive state, but apparently we don't get to have nice things like that without quite a lot more political organizing and resistance.
(DIR) Post #ATPAaXE3qT6yibHZwW by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T11:59:44.159005Z
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@rysertio @blakereid not as much difference as you think tho. the threat of legal consequences creates very powerful social pressure even if that law is not dutifully enforced. see covid lockdowns, there was the perception of legal consequences as well as some (illegal) legal consequences occasionally enough that it was socially enforced like a religion. i cant saw there is any good faith pro elective abortion argument that can compete with being against elective abortion.
(DIR) Post #ATPBakDNeVKSxPczrs by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T12:11:21.498530Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid The reason there are arguments against abortion is because of Christianity, you know, religion
(DIR) Post #ATPCNTN54576uKOtuK by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:19:58.814503Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid i actually dont agree, i am a deist and i dont think there is anything morally good in permitting elective abortions as an acceptable social norm. it just comes off as have a super eugenics kind of vibe, it's a putrid vile disgusting thing for it to be 98% of all abortions. why did we abolish personal responsibilty?
(DIR) Post #ATPCRqdmUYUoEbIZ3w by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:20:50.960835Z
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@rysertio @blakereid i dont agree that you can make what some people call baby murder look cool
(DIR) Post #ATPCdAGJsaqSH7ijxI by grips@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T12:22:55.369899Z
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@rysertio @jeff @blakereid most people won't bother to use that
(DIR) Post #ATPCe1OeKM034J1dnU by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:22:57.412083Z
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@alienghic @blakereid it is a dire mistake to make this a partisan issue. all you'll do is further shrink the size of the "left wing"
(DIR) Post #ATPCjefjjG2OKMhiNs by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:24:03.834633Z
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@grips @rysertio @blakereid yes, and that's because of the social stigma being imposed.
(DIR) Post #ATPCpLGQniXfs6ZzRw by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:25:04.593791Z
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@rysertio @blakereid no dude, the war on drugs was a war on black america. you need to step back and see thr bigger picture on this.
(DIR) Post #ATPD5xp7CoII5wjEVk by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T12:27:59.834687Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid Eugenics and abortions were the norm before Christianity, maybe then they thought that not controlling who our children are and taking the family's freedom away is disgusting
(DIR) Post #ATPDDYgYYIJ8RnLY3s by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:29:23.758598Z
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@rysertio @blakereid that's one hell of a non sequitur, you seem to have a deep seeded hatred of religion which is clouding your judgement here. like trump derangement syndrome but for religions not trump. you gotta let go dude, not everything needs to be about religion or anti religion (which in itself feels like it has all of the dogma and none of the introspection)
(DIR) Post #ATPDOzxPUq44DNgWGW by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:31:27.933590Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid that's not a good look for the pro abortion perspective as you now just plaid into the hands of the Christian fundy narrative with that aniqdote.
(DIR) Post #ATPDdA2knE1zYCwBUW by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T12:34:12.004355Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid Not an anecdote because I wasn't around then and I don't care about american Christians, it's just what the social norm was and the reason it changed was because of religion, the same thing you commented about
(DIR) Post #ATPDwrfyn9uANRgFeK by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:37:33.563357Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid you make it sound like an attack on christian moral values which are the moral foundation of the usa.
(DIR) Post #ATPEE94TN2rnFYNR1E by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T12:40:53.448161Z
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@rysertio @jeff @blakereid Specific about what part?
(DIR) Post #ATPFFBif6t4zhtEiEC by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T12:52:05.452101Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid i dont think it matters if it is true because people believe it is and that is more powerful
(DIR) Post #ATPFeB8QQ74n8MCewK by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T12:56:48.046633Z
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@rysertio @jeff @blakereid They didn't believe in an inherent value in a person like you have in Christianity, take the Agoge for example which kills unfit children, there are also sources of Christians adopting young children thrown out by Romans to die, infanticide is probably the more accurate term
(DIR) Post #ATPKNLaumJj6QBK3o8 by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T13:49:46.175410Z
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@rysertio @blakereid @jeff This is what I found in a search from "Oxford Textbook of the Newborn: A Cultural and Medical History" abstract of chapter 8.1>In Greece and Rome, children’s lives had little value, and the father’s rights included killing his own children. The proportion of men greatly exceeding women found in many cultures and epochs, suggests that girls suffered infanticide more often than boys. A kind of social birth, the ritual right to survive, rested on the procedure of name giving in Roman culture and on the start of oral feeding in Germanic tradition. Legislative efforts to protect the newborn began with Trajan’s ‘alimentaria’ laws in 103 C.E. and Constantine’s laws following his conversion to Christianity in 313 C.E. Malformed newborns were not regarded as human infants and usually were killed immediately after birth. Infanticide was formally outlawed in 374 C.E. by Emperor Valentinian.
(DIR) Post #ATPLfWGDxZrCfWsECm by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:04:04.301513Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid that's not elective abortions at all, that is just flat out eugenics.
(DIR) Post #ATPM1tQ6XCtKrpACfY by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:08:07.174533Z
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@Komnene @blakereid @rysertio the biggest objection to elective abortion is that it permits the full abdication of the responsibility of being a parent, thus everyone can whore around and never have a family. this has already been doing noticeably profound damage to the dating ecosystem and fucked the incentives in an irreparable way. now if you want to go farther and say that abortion good because then you can do eugenics... yeah you lost the plot.
(DIR) Post #ATPM9mB7LKSUiwudhQ by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:09:35.095858Z
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@Komnene @blakereid @rysertio this gets back to the point i made:there are no good arguments in favor of permitting elective abortions as a socially acceptable norm. only bad ones.
(DIR) Post #ATPMDRugd6mz20yjk8 by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:10:24.526961Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid My argument is that arguments against abortion came from religion, something that you commented as a negative, either way, any control over reproduction is eugenics, if you want to heal the dating ecosystem, that's eugenics by definition
(DIR) Post #ATPMM6ed2W1Jhiazlg by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:11:47.504801Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid so your argument is "religion bad therefore being in favor of things that destroy what religion made, good"
(DIR) Post #ATPMPkk6RsgUu8tYg4 by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:12:38.300882Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid No
(DIR) Post #ATPMaHkMavtUA32UF6 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:14:20.508319Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid if not, then what is it? so far it comes off as a very anti human, pro death, pro eugenics position.can you clue me in on what your argument actually is?
(DIR) Post #ATPN0HLygCD4TE1m2C by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:19:04.245544Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid in the usa 96% of all abortions are elective abortions . fact check me.
(DIR) Post #ATPN2ESYPUMm4f2EaG by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:19:35.532846Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid I told you already, it's that natalism comes from a religion, something that your original posts contradicts, but yeah, I think it would be better to be from reason rather than dogmatic from religious tradition
(DIR) Post #ATPNQxb4F53f0zoBBg by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:23:53.460524Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid religion is not good or bad, it's a tool to teach moral behavior. moral behavior are choices and social norms that benefit the community as a whole across generations, like not littering, being kind to your neighbors and being happy. none of those are meant to benefit the individual, but those you are around. these morals differ per region and the importing of where ever this practice of elective abortion as an acceptable practice comes from doesn't matter, it is already having a very noticeable negative set of consequences in the usa.
(DIR) Post #ATPNcgQZu1ddEzUZGq by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:25:54.784602Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid irrelevant, see https://federated.fun/notice/ATPMzElO7TPFxGF5Ie
(DIR) Post #ATPNw38LhrfbAFCT68 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:29:27.810128Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid all pro lifers talk about is making parenting sustainable dude, this perception that they are anti baby is such a deranged lie propagated by anti religion people. they want children to be taken care of before AND after birth. if you cant afford to have a kid, they should be made to afford one, getting the guy married in to stick around and take responsibility. maybe then people will actually think about the consequences of actions for once.
(DIR) Post #ATPO52cOzXfYAkXplw by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:31:06.866558Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid this is whatabotery dude, dont conflate elective abortions with medical ones. literally no one but the pro abortion people bring it up. it's all from anti religon people, it's neurotic af
(DIR) Post #ATPOI97K8msc5nFzhg by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:33:29.166070Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid elective abortions have literally nothing in common with chemo from a moral point of view. stop conflating this, you look intellectually dishonest.
(DIR) Post #ATPONzPb8aajjIahRg by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:34:36.661340Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid you very likely you don't talk to them but instead you hear what the pro abortion people say about them. have you tried having an open honest discussion on this with someone intellectual?
(DIR) Post #ATPORoNK76aqesLjIu by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T14:33:14.175602Z
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@jeff @Komnene @blakereid
(DIR) Post #ATPORqq6x2oEIjpkS8 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:35:16.711587Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid now show death by heart attacks :DD
(DIR) Post #ATPOVtSNA9xbZnepnc by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:36:01.084059Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid jesus fucking Christ dude stop reading propaganda and talk to people.
(DIR) Post #ATPOaLsTR6pisfzZnk by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:36:57.295101Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid Religion is just a set of practices yes, dogma is separate and doesn't work with reason and you can't progress, What are the negative consequences that abortion has in the US?
(DIR) Post #ATPOeAJEOCSoA0KHGy by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-03-08T14:37:34.461888Z
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@rysertio @jeff @blakereid "I'll throw you into jail if you post about mifepristone on the Internet."
(DIR) Post #ATPOmRoVBzIElXtzjk by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:38:58.757962Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid the social dynamic in the usa is that now all of the men are irresponsible shitbags and the women are whores who sleep with 20 different irresponsible shitbag men. because you can always just get an abortion if you get her preggers.
(DIR) Post #ATPOodRquDz5QgLpJY by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T14:37:30.739437Z
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@jeff @Komnene @blakereid Pre or post clot shot?
(DIR) Post #ATPOofyXVfJrGdexXc by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:39:25.572179Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid yes
(DIR) Post #ATPOszjZzOarhqinQm by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:40:11.861067Z
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@rysertio @blakereid @skylar i am okay with socially stigmatizing elective abortions, so yes.
(DIR) Post #ATPOxsswsf7pueR3bM by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-03-08T14:41:08.242928Z
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@rysertio @jeff @blakereid this brings some possibilities, like abortionists getting what they deserve and starring in cartel beheading videos
(DIR) Post #ATPOzwDvRKMkqUE6Qi by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:41:26.598549Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid this is a false dichotomy installed into you by reading propaganda from internet psychos who profit from echo chambers that radicalize and polarize.
(DIR) Post #ATPP3lPpZ7i6U2cSOG by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:42:13.965165Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid I don't see how punishing them with children will discourage them and can't they just disown them of put them or put them up for adoption?
(DIR) Post #ATPP97GljzjLi4vuMK by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:43:05.439091Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid dude, the usa's foster care system is so fucked. it's full of child sexual abuse and pervese incentives
(DIR) Post #ATPPDNnsD54i9CS4bw by FabolousIrving@ryona.agency
2023-03-08T14:43:32.321631Z
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@jeff @rysertio @Komnene @blakereid the basis of anti-abortion law should come from religion. Rationalizing why it should be outlawed means slipping into degeneracy slowly since they can argue why it's good.
(DIR) Post #ATPPDyynzOnvRoqpHs by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:44:00.673397Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid those are perfectly fine to ignore whataboutery talking points right there.
(DIR) Post #ATPPIyfiYrjTwOIxZg by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:45:01.696382Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid Same here, but that wouldn't discourage someone from having a child because they don't care about them to begin with
(DIR) Post #ATPPNN9DVEwl0eCMJk by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:45:39.551877Z
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@FabolousIrving @rysertio @Komnene @blakereid are we not already in that shitty environment niw?
(DIR) Post #ATPPRPNN9yod4wkC5g by FabolousIrving@ryona.agency
2023-03-08T14:46:06.578857Z
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@jeff @rysertio @Komnene @blakereid indeed, this is the result of using rationalization to argue against things like this.
(DIR) Post #ATPPRkiLpB4fG5ikCm by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:46:28.537706Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid no, not at all, they made very bad life choices and they need to learn from them not continue to abdicate personal responsibility. that's the point dude
(DIR) Post #ATPPet9RlcPfBqesS0 by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:48:58.647425Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid America is the living example of why this doesn't work, if punishment worked you wouldn't have the one of the biggest prisoner populations in history, if anything this would result in more suffering
(DIR) Post #ATPPfsdLB5ZPsE770y by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:48:58.365182Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid only in a community that lets them like a community without moral behavior.
(DIR) Post #ATPPj3Q1XEyKByOl6m by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:49:36.974222Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid that is what happens, the data shows this to be the case
(DIR) Post #ATPPn9NJKdixp75B8y by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:50:22.216474Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid not fixing one problem because of a worse problem is how you get to the hell we are in now. what if we fixed that problem too?
(DIR) Post #ATPPucACh9LX8XVkUi by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:51:39.534000Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid oh no there would still be neglect there'd just be a HELL of a lot less, especially if the women was a mom.
(DIR) Post #ATPQ41iP426wzQznF2 by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T14:53:31.087386Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid The worse problem was created by punishing them individually to learn from their mistakes and to make them more responsible, the same way you want to fix this problem
(DIR) Post #ATPQ4qP0bttuC3JWam by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:53:31.377419Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid more social problems that need to be fixed tbh. it ends up being a full rebuttle of ALL of the neoliberal ideals formed in the past 90 years. that is why there is such a kneejerk reaction from the progressives, it shows their ideas are shit and that the social conservatives were right. they simply cannot accept that so they go all the way to eugenics.
(DIR) Post #ATPQ8rQijQDmXT1uKW by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:54:18.079091Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid no, the worse problem was assuming the neoliberal world view was moral.
(DIR) Post #ATPQUsa983ouTywD20 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T14:58:12.196260Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid they let it become socially acceptable
(DIR) Post #ATPQkOqNSkPIstvktE by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:01:00.640714Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid i dont think you even know what a socially conservative person entails and are reading internet propaganda written by people who make a buck from destroying to social fabric of the usa
(DIR) Post #ATPRqYSkiEWaPPNYmW by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T15:13:28.097522Z
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@jeff @blakereid @rysertio Also, why would you want "irresponsible shitbags and whores" to have children and raise them with the same genes and environment that created them in the first place, wouldn't it better to reproduce the problem and let it solve itself?
(DIR) Post #ATPS9UpiQoSmeb9TZA by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:16:44.144773Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid which is why neoliberalism has backfired so hard, it created an environment where exploitation is easier because vices are seen as acceptable.
(DIR) Post #ATPSEgVIT3SOIW4iRc by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:17:45.652405Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid solving itself? with elective abortions? that's a pretty anti life disposition right there dont you think?
(DIR) Post #ATPSJkphncM5Ak2Rqi by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:18:38.898137Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid the human brain is a neural network that was trained on data for the past billion years. it's not dangerous or even out there at all. it's accepted science and has been for a long time.
(DIR) Post #ATPSfXQaJu09y3fxlA by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:22:36.803268Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid the human brain learns and genetic memory is a thing dude. lots of studies on it in rodents.
(DIR) Post #ATPSq8KFzOJlIglgbw by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:24:26.143084Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid instincts are not learned they are baked into your neurology at birth, genetic memory. literally.
(DIR) Post #ATPSyzdjeV6Yy56Ugy by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T15:23:26.262792Z
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@jeff @Komnene @blakereid Are you implying there could be different results from this based on different inputs?😂
(DIR) Post #ATPSz4hookLGgC3KFc by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:26:05.137901Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid yes, if you parents are white trash you will also likely be too. instead of dealing with the consequences of the neoliberal world view being incompatible with reality they wish to destroy their mistakes with eugenics, not fix them by being moral. full circle, and abdication of personal responsibility and its consequences are laid bare for all to see and will be rejected at one's own peril.
(DIR) Post #ATPT8FhpHxRDOzQrlA by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:27:47.388219Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid this is a problem that transcends race and only racists will be angered by this sad truth.
(DIR) Post #ATPTFYpGbDYQjFOhkW by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:29:03.773273Z
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@Komnene @blakereid @sargoysmuck the realization that YOU TOO could be just as bad as the people you hate is a very powerful shock to the racist mind.
(DIR) Post #ATPTTx7B5ftO76dbVY by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:31:41.285002Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid EOT
(DIR) Post #ATPTX7ZIgGqbP5IpYO by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T15:32:23.073261Z
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@jeff @rysertio @blakereid That's biological fitness
(DIR) Post #ATPTgnoyxFtv3TFpIW by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T15:34:00.923081Z
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@Komnene @rysertio @blakereid yes, it is indeed. and it's stored genetically when the brain is formed during pregnancy. you are not an empty vessel, you are the cumulative amalgamation of all of your ancestors.
(DIR) Post #ATPVRVVswPPnq29kHI by Zealist@poa.st
2023-03-08T15:53:48.985400Z
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@jeff @Komnene @blakereid @sargoysmuck funny enough, there's still less criminality in the "white trash" community than any shitskin community. i've already squared this supposed circle no it doesn't shock me that low class people exist, they're still a delight next to a nigger of literally any economic bracket.
(DIR) Post #ATPWDHKGza5xjlVIPI by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T16:02:25.008280Z
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@Zealist @jeff @blakereid @sargoysmuck Weren't they discriminated against until the late 60s? Seems like a logical result then
(DIR) Post #ATPWYeQoHXcFTjkj3I by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:04:41.461757Z
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@Komnene @Zealist @jeff @blakereid Funny you ask that since in pretty much every statistical category they’ve declined at a higher rate than other races.
(DIR) Post #ATPWYf5DrHwTV4f02i by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T16:06:16.741930Z
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@sargoysmuck @jeff @blakereid @Zealist One leads to the other, yes
(DIR) Post #ATPWmzr7QJt9yltmz2 by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:08:03.372955Z
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@Komnene @jeff @blakereid @Zealist No after lol, they had an upward or positive trend before.
(DIR) Post #ATPWryqQbtwGI6x6J6 by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T15:44:41.304500Z
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@jeff @Komnene @blakereid We’re defeded from disqordia so I can’t really do much but shitpost about you being “race blind” on this topic and ignoring the obvious questions. Gl with your we’3r all hUmans abortion thread :cheers:
(DIR) Post #ATPWwaeG008ghBSQ2i by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T16:10:36.757577Z
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@sargoysmuck @jeff @blakereid @Zealist Before they stopped being discriminated against? Yes, change causes friction
(DIR) Post #ATPXXZggXBXeQjEEfw by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:15:39.047111Z
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@Komnene @jeff @blakereid @Zealist Segregation was a net positive on their race statically. Do you understand now?
(DIR) Post #ATPXiHY8JLEpMUKmX2 by Zealist@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:19:15.444886Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @jeff @blakereid obviously not, people who aren't race realists, are willfully ignorant of how things actually are in the face of any evidence.
(DIR) Post #ATPXnJSEejuCiXyTei by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T16:19:56.969701Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid i just want TOTAL NEOLIBERAL DEATH
(DIR) Post #ATPXq7moUhknOkwMt6 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T16:20:32.589834Z
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@Zealist @Komnene @blakereid @sargoysmuck there actually isn't because white nationalists are the white people version of what you are describing.
(DIR) Post #ATPY9QTNF6RMr63FGy by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T16:24:08.809278Z
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@Zealist @jeff @blakereid @sargoysmuck The evidence says americans are practically the same except for phenotype
(DIR) Post #ATPYFBRy0eRE078f8y by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T16:24:57.838269Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid yes, genetic memory
(DIR) Post #ATPYNpLnXnzA4CNIwa by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:26:07.338180Z
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@jeff @Zealist @Komnene @blakereid -Source please
(DIR) Post #ATPYNsEooDBX1Q8Gyu by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T16:26:34.867092Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid @Zealist lmao, neoliberal af
(DIR) Post #ATPYRI2lJxVXvQ7dce by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:27:23.260904Z
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@Komnene @sargoysmuck @jeff @blakereid @Zealist The segregation of peoples in America benefitted blacks because they weren't forced to compete economically with Whites, who had the benefit of intergenerational wealth, a higher IQ, and better societies overall. The end of segregation saw the end of black businesses because they were outcompeted by White ones. Before the Civil Rights movement black people functionally had their own society, and after it they had nothing. They became poorer, more prone to crime, and more dependent on the federal government. The change didn't simply 'cause friction', it decimated the black communities in America and ruined the advances they had made over the years. It effectively killed black culture in America. Where they used to have jazz musicians now they make rap. Where they used to emphasize classy attire, they now sag and and obsess over Nikes. Where they used to produce men like Malcolm X, now they produce faggots like Lil Nas X. That's not what I'd call progress.
(DIR) Post #ATPYr391L0QJFIKgb2 by Komnene@cawfee.club
2023-03-08T16:32:01.366886Z
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@Free_Idealist @jeff @blakereid @Zealist @sargoysmuck Yeah, progress would be not discriminating against them after the civil war, waiting until the 60s results in dealing with the friction now
(DIR) Post #ATPZSOENtxFLMJe9rM by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:37:41.250215Z
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@jeff @Komnene @blakereid @Zealist I wonder what would happen if every race blind vtuber fag was confronted with the reality of negroid crime statistics irl?
(DIR) Post #ATPZUvMHhnqugHYBTE by Free_Idealist@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:39:15.256433Z
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@Komnene @jeff @blakereid @Zealist @sargoysmuck Mhm, sure.
(DIR) Post #ATPZo6NowKZ2NMPhRI by gucciloafers@poa.st
2023-03-08T16:40:03.357560Z
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@jeff @Zealist @Komnene @blakereid @sargoysmuck They're among the least criminally-inclined people in their countries which is why governments have to invent or try to invent new ways to throw them in prison. I'm talking about actual white nationalists not "guy with swastika tattoo who sold meth."
(DIR) Post #ATPZo8xLNEASM7365Q by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T16:42:30.267176Z
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@gucciloafers @Komnene @blakereid @Zealist @sargoysmuck the person you are talking about does not exist dude.
(DIR) Post #ATPa6ETha986h5oGem by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T16:45:46.232888Z
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@rysertio @Komnene @blakereid science doesn't do research like that on humans because of ethics and literally no funding for it. genetic memory is shown in all mammalians tested so far and basically all other life forms with a brain, basically every kind of life that is derived from mycelium.
(DIR) Post #ATPaCRQ8NK2IZW6M2y by jeff@federated.fun
2023-03-08T16:46:56.905387Z
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@sargoysmuck @Komnene @blakereid @Zealist the war on black america is quite obvious with that data tbh.