Post ATPJL6Az23M44LYbuS by TodePond@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #ATPJL6Az23M44LYbuS by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:38:00Z
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Did you know? 💭Favourite counts are nearly always wrong + different depending on what server you're on?Here's the same post when viewed on four different instances.
(DIR) Post #ATPJL7kTBbKowhASrQ by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:38:43Z
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It's not just favourites though!Replies are nearly always wrong too.
(DIR) Post #ATPJL9S6qppwEKapWK by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:39:51Z
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Mastodon's strength should be that you can pick whatever server you want.But currently, your server choice greatly affects the information that you see.
(DIR) Post #ATPJLAvvLTHOp5Y9dA by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:40:36Z
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By the way, this isn't a case of servers being slow to catch up.The post is from over a week ago.
(DIR) Post #ATPJLCVlThXjiXKI8O by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:41:19Z
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Boost counts are also consistently wrong!Let's look at another example.We can see four completely different pieces of information.
(DIR) Post #ATPJLE0HvhYMLUcBLk by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:41:50Z
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And this post is from months ago!It's not because of servers being 'behind'.
(DIR) Post #ATPJLFbXyex1JL3S40 by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:43:27Z
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One server even has the whole instance banned, so you get even less information.The banned instance is mastodon.social, which is the first one that users are referred to on https://joinmastodon.org/servers
(DIR) Post #ATPJLHM1TLimjlo58y by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:44:19Z
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Even if you use your own client, like @elk, you receive different information based on what server you're logged into.
(DIR) Post #ATPJLJ0TKRffrVjtpY by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:45:41Z
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@elk Why is it like this?Back in 2019, @Gargron said it was a deliberate design decision.Surely not?(This comment refers to 'favourites' by the way. But the problem also affects boosts and replies.)
(DIR) Post #ATPJLKd9I8CetkqIkq by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:47:43Z
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@elk @Gargron I've been trying to learn more about this problem, and I don't understand why it isn't a bigger deal.The most recent discussion on it is from over 100 days ago.Here's the issue by the way: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/11339
(DIR) Post #ATPJLMIf5H0I4nGy6C by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:50:17Z
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@elk @Gargron I've been trying to learn more about this problem, and I don't understand why it isn't a bigger deal.But what do you think though? Please let me know! And if you know how to fix it, PLEASE let me know!!!!!Boosts appreciated ❤️🐸
(DIR) Post #ATejSFbWn85bdTU19E by Ciantic@twit.social
2023-03-08T12:57:12Z
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@TodePond Likes? I use them as a nod to the author, I don't care if they never went to other people.I would like to see better boost counts, because on small servers you don't see how many people have boosted a post unless you open the post in new tab.I understand why replies and boosts don't update, because ActivityPub is pub/sub model. If you don't follow a person, how would you get the boost count on your server?They should add 'fetch' API if they wanted to get accurate boost counts.
(DIR) Post #ATejSGBKe0jHQWEbxI by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-08T12:58:22Z
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@Ciantic I would like my client to fetch the correct favourite + boost counts for me. I end up manually 'fetching' the info by opening the original link anyway :)
(DIR) Post #ATejSGmCQwDhGrU3Q8 by Ciantic@twit.social
2023-03-08T13:00:24Z
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@TodePond Yes that's right, it can be done in client side.There are clients I believe that do it.The bigger problem IMO is that you don't see all replies in other people's posts. It's the same thing, with pub/sub it doesn't send you replies when you click to open a thread, it only gives those that were sent to you by pub/sub... if you don't follow a person that's not tagged you don't see their replies as well.
(DIR) Post #ATejSHKwLm0d0bjnZQ by karlo@qoto.org
2023-03-08T13:16:14Z
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@Ciantic @TodePond Indeed, every instance seeing a different set of replies on a post is really not practical.
(DIR) Post #ATejSI9dJIYhXpSHaK by clacke@libranet.de
2023-03-15T15:02:45Z
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@karlo @Ciantic @TodePond By the nature of the Fediverse, different servers will always have different perspectives. But with likes Mastodon is deliberately making it even less consistent than it has to be.
(DIR) Post #ATejSIbddAxawgYeEi by tom@tomtau.be
2023-03-15T23:39:16Z
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@clacke likes do not exist as a feature in honk, so no problems here
(DIR) Post #AThmV0xAbP6GOzUlpA by stux@mstdn.social
2023-03-17T11:29:37Z
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@TodePond The reason for that is super simple!Since all servers are federated with their 'own network' so not 1-to-1 with others servers some might miss or accounts are not 'known' etc!
(DIR) Post #AThngzYdiVzdVEIRvM by TodePond@mastodon.social
2023-03-17T11:42:59Z
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@stux Hiya! Yes I understand that :)I'm making the case for trying to create a better experience for people on smaller servers 🙌