Post ATNKDGaM9sGHfrKoE4 by elliswyatt@social.freetalklive.com
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 (DIR) Post #ATNKDFLQlsjDpHLNK4 by GottaLaff@mastodon.social
       2023-03-05T03:55:05Z
       
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       Another day, another…At least 5 people shot near San Pedro, #California beach #shooting https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-04/la-me-san-pedro-shooting
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKDFrKrGFVQEGr3I by ruedi@social.cologne
       2023-03-06T17:34:06Z
       
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       @GottaLaff ...and some people still ask me why I won't let my daughter go and spend a year at a US highschool. 😤 No way is she spending one second in that dangerous country. At least as long we as parents have to agree to it.And holidays? Nope. Get you shit sorted, USA. 🤬 Appologies to all good-natured, peaceful people across the pond! 😟 #guncontrol #gunculture #doublestandards #usa
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKDGaM9sGHfrKoE4 by elliswyatt@social.freetalklive.com
       2023-03-07T14:38:32Z
       
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       @ruedi @GottaLaff A call for gun control is a call for coercion and violence against millions of peaceful people.There is no justice in doing so.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKNVvvwvpMAfJVWC by ruedi@social.cologne
       2023-03-07T14:40:23Z
       
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       @elliswyatt @GottaLaff So what other solution do you propose to solve the mass shooting problem?
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKP13biYDyzOcRtI by RiaResists@mastodon.social
       2023-03-05T04:12:23Z
       
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       @GottaLaff gun worshippers never come to the table to find solutions. They never come to the table at all. Their arguments are intentionally stupid, intended to “trigger”their neighbors bc they can. At this point I say outlaw the MFing guns. Sue the manufactures. Tax the crap out of them. Abolish the NRA which is responsible for twisting & distorting 2A. If one 2A proponent ever stepped up in good faith I would feel differently.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKP1v8VX2hfPfCKG by elliswyatt@social.freetalklive.com
       2023-03-07T14:40:40Z
       
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       @RiaResists @GottaLaff You will use guns against millions of peaceful people to take theirs.You will threaten, harm and kill peaceful people to create the world you want to see.This world btw, has men in uniform with guns who decide whether or not you can leave.  You are building a prison.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKd2pVvJtEXciTi4 by MTnv@mstdn.ca
       2023-03-05T04:40:45Z
       
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       @GottaLaff What do we say after all these years?? We show them the stats of over counties that they are all too sadly aware of But I do not know what say or draw or donate pieces to .. ahh just answered by own question. Support dogs ..
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKd3d8wnaZ1Xw74C by elliswyatt@social.freetalklive.com
       2023-03-07T14:43:12Z
       
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       @MTnv @GottaLaff It comes down to acting ethically.  What is expedient (gun bans) is not ethical (coercion and violence against peaceful people is wrong).Find a better solution.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNKzfl5rszZeCRG6a by elliswyatt@social.freetalklive.com
       2023-03-07T14:47:18Z
       
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       @ruedi @GottaLaff My being free of your violence is not subject to solving your problems.This problem is not one of guns, Canada has a ridiculous amount of guns (1:3 houses has guns).  It is absolutely cultural.Primarily, the drug war has created an environment where people are in for a penny in for a pound.  Stop the war on drugs.Next, the sex trade is linked to a good many too, and like the drug trade, it encourages violence for territory.  Stop the war on sex.Finally, general tension that comes with forcing people to associate politically amps things up and pushes those who are already on the edge ... over it.Less violence is the answer, not more.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNL90QYOLasMAHWyW by GottaLaff@mastodon.social
       2023-03-06T19:30:49Z
       
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       @ruedi It's one of the reasons we're in the process of moving to Canada.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNL90qmooZrfWYTrc by elliswyatt@social.freetalklive.com
       2023-03-07T14:48:59Z
       
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       @GottaLaff @ruedi 1 in 3 homes has guns here.There are 20+ million "legal" guns, and 38 million people. Around 2 1/2 million licences, and at least as many who never bothered.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNLS5nqd492WzHL1c by ruedi@social.cologne
       2023-03-07T14:52:24Z
       
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       @elliswyatt @GottaLaff I fundamentally disagree with private people owning guns. Sports, job, hunting.... yes, of course. Interestingly the number of guns per capita in Switzerland is higher than in the US. But they have ZERO mass shootings.What I am totally on board with is that societies need less violence, social pressure, job-related stress, division and so on.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNM3yzmO6QKQDvXFI by elliswyatt@social.freetalklive.com
       2023-03-07T14:59:17Z
       
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       @ruedi @GottaLaff I understand you disagree with private gun ownership.My position is that to get what you want, you will have to threaten, harm and kill peaceful people who have done nothing wrong.  And that doing so is wrong.If you want less violence, codifying violence against what, 100 million people?  is not the way to do it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATNMPXP9eMY7Do4fHU by ruedi@social.cologne
       2023-03-07T15:03:10Z
       
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       @elliswyatt @GottaLaff Difficult topic, I know.From my point of view there is now way round a complete turnaround on US gun culture. It is dragging the whole country down, causes thousands of innocent deaths.Here, this is interesting:https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/gun-ownership-by-country/